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Créé par: FilthyMitts0505

Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2022

Publié: 16 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Conor Garland would be a great addition to the devils top six group. I think they would be a team to downgrade from their pick as they have selected top 10 in four of the last five drafts.

Dickinson hasn't panned out to what we were hoping for so i think a buyout could be an option so we aren't paying assets to get rid of him.

Justin Shultz is a relativly cheap short term option for the RHD slot. He can add to the bluelines scoring which has lacked in the last few years and adds some veteran leadership to the squad.

Drafting Nimec would fill our future need for a top 4 RHD and if Filip Johanssen can get back to his regime from when he was drafted thats another really good option.

Curtis Lazar is a good option to replace the hole created in the bottom six by the absence of Tyler Motte.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Boeser, Brock	7	6 545 000 $
Rathbone, Jack	2	950 000 $
DiPietro, Michael	2	850 000 $
Highmore, Matthew	1	850 000 $
Lockwood, William	3	850 000 $
Studnicka, Jack	3	1 100 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Schultz, Justin	2	3 250 000 $
Sautner, Ashton	2	775 000 $
Stephens, Devante	2	775 000 $
Lazar, Curtis	2	1 500 000 $
Copp, Andrew	4	5 500 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya	3	3 500 000 $

Transactions

VAN

Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)

NJD

Garland, Conor
Klimovich, Danila
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VAN)

Détails additionnels:

Canucks can trade up and get the 2nd overall pick in order to draft one of the solid and highly touted RHD. Simon Nimec seems like the best option and is ranked top 5 on Peter Baracchinis draft rankings.

VAN

Benson, Tyler [Droits de RFA]

EDM

Dermott, Travis

VAN

Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (VAN)

ARI

Pearson, Tanner

Détails additionnels:

We get our origonial ( i cant spell ) pick back and gain some long-term cap flexibility.

VAN

DeBrusk, Jake
Studnicka, Jack [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

There has been lot's of speculation of Debrusk to Vancouver over the years. I think this is a time where it could make a lot of sense. Jack Studnicka is right shot forward who could fill in for the hole left by dickinson on the third or fourth line. He is also a young player with lots of potential.

BOS

Horvat, Bo

Détails additionnels:

I say we decide to keep J.T Miller on the team long-term. He will likely get a Zibanejed contract comparison so around 8 mil long-term. This leaves very little room for when Horvats contract expires. He will get somewhere between 6.5-7.5 AAV on his next contract which will be very difficult to manage. He fills the 2nd line center position on Boston very well.

Rachats de contrats

Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $
Jason Dickinson: 941 667 $

Enfoui

Tucker Poolman: 1 375 000 $ (2 500 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	77 650 834 $	1 250 000 $	1 150 000 $	4 849 166 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Podkolzin, Vasily 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias 7 350 000 $7 350 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock 6 545 000 $6 545 000 $ AD UFA - 3
DeBrusk, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Miller, J.T. 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Copp, Andrew 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 5
Highmore, Matthew 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Studnicka, Jack 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2	Höglander, Nils 891 667 $891 667 $ (300 000 $$300K) AG, AD RFA - 1
	Dowling, Justin 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Lazar, Curtis 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, C UFA - 3
Mikheyev, Ilya 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Quinn 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ DG UFA - 5	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 4
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver 7 260 000 $7 260 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Schultz, Justin 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Martin, Spencer 762 500 $762 500 $ G UFA - 2
	Schenn, Luke 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Rathbone, Jack 950 000 $950 000 $ DG UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Burroughs, Kyle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1		Ferland, Micheal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Lockwood, William 850 000 $850 000 $ AD UFA - 1

16 juin 2022 à 20 h 45

HeadHighSauce

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Can't imagine 2 is in play with Vancouver if it's not Demko or Quinn.

But who knows.

16 juin 2022 à 20 h 47

FilthyMitts0505

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Quoting: KDev

Devils laugh and say no

Is the value way way off? What needs to be added?

16 juin 2022 à 20 h 59

NJDevils1317

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Quoting: FilthyMitts0505

Is the value way way off? What needs to be added?

Devils don't need quantity and things needed, they need focused quality, plain and simple. But has to match the age range (I get the DeBrincat talk for that), but someone like JT Miller isn't peaking when this roster does, and Garland isn't high enough talent to be the big focus.

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16 juin 2022 à 21 h 1

FilthyMitts0505

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Quoting: NJDevils1317

Ok I guess that makes more sense.

16 juin 2022 à 21 h 3

YesThisIsFlo

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Ain't no way they'd trade Horvat for a version of himself that is worse, a winger, and had issues with his team, all to get a bottom 6 player.

16 juin 2022 à 21 h 33

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I believe there was interest in Garland, but for Zacha+

Cannot imagine the #2 would be in play unless Demko is coming back.

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16 juin 2022 à 21 h 36

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Quoting: FilthyMitts0505

Is the value way way off? What needs to be added?

Trouble with trading 5m Garland, is the Devils can spend 5m on sign a equal UFA without giving up the second overall. Or in the Devils cases, spend 10m on Gaudreau and keep the 2nd overall pick.

Highly doubt Miller is gonna sign long term with the Canucks. And even if he does, a player starting a 7 or 8 year tea at age of 30 doesn't sound too appealing

16 juin 2022 à 22 h 0

Bobbysandhu21

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Quoting: HeadHighSauce

Can't imagine 2 is in play with Vancouver if it's not Demko or Quinn.

But who knows.

Lmfao Buddy Demko And Quinn are worth way more then the 2nd overall if u need a goalie ur paying the 2OA plus for Demmer same with Quinn

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16 juin 2022 à 22 h 20

Knuckl3s

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I believe there was interest in Garland, but for Zacha+

Cannot imagine the #2 would be in play unless Demko is coming back.

Demko is still worth more than the 2OA, it would be for 2OA+

16 juin 2022 à 22 h 21

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Knuckl3s

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Pearson is not a cap dump

Dermott is worth way more than Benson

That's an insulting offer for Bo Horvat

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16 juin 2022 à 22 h 22

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I believe there was interest in Garland, but for Zacha+

Cannot imagine the #2 would be in play unless Demko is coming back.

Demko aint moving despite reports that they "should" and if zacha doesnt get a QO he could get scooped for free, not saying he will, but if he doesnt...

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16 juin 2022 à 22 h 30

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Quoting: Bobbysandhu21

Lmfao Buddy Demko And Quinn are worth way more then the 2nd overall if u need a goalie ur paying the 2OA plus for Demmer same with Quinn

I think you missed my point.

It's that those are the only two assets on your team I would guess the Devils would move the pick for. Not that the trade is 1 for 1.

16 juin 2022 à 22 h 30

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CMcAvoy73

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Quoting: FilthyMitts0505

Is the value way way off? What needs to be added?

Its way off in value. Nothing needs to be added. It needs to be scrapped.

16 juin 2022 à 22 h 31

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That boston trade is actually pretty interesting if the bruins know, and like his extension number.

16 juin 2022 à 22 h 46

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

That boston trade is actually pretty interesting if the bruins know, and like his extension number.

It's awful for Vancouver

16 juin 2022 à 22 h 59

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CMcAvoy73

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Quoting: Knuckl3s

It's awful for Vancouver

You think everything is awful for vancouver, and every player on the team is worth unprecedented levels of trade value.

16 juin 2022 à 23 h 4

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Knuckl3s

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

You think everything is awful for vancouver, and every player on the team is worth unprecedented levels of trade value.

No I don't, you're just making a general accusation without enough evidence to support your claim. You always want to try and make other users here feel insecure, everyone else has figured that out about you already in case you didn't know

16 juin 2022 à 23 h 8

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

You think everything is awful for vancouver, and every player on the team is worth unprecedented levels of trade value.

A top 6 C is worth much more than a middle 6 winger (that the Canucks don’t need) and meh prospect

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17 juin 2022 à 9 h 35

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Quoting: mv21227

A top 6 C is worth much more than a middle 6 winger (that the Canucks don’t need) and meh prospect

One is a rental. The other is not

17 juin 2022 à 9 h 38

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CMcAvoy73

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Quoting: Knuckl3s

I’ll use 20 years of evidence, and you’ll just say a long winded version of, “nope. Doesn’t matter!”

My evidence regarding your posting history is your posting history

17 juin 2022 à 9 h 40

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Knuckl3s

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

I’ll use 20 years of evidence, and you’ll just say a long winded version of, “nope. Doesn’t matter!”

My evidence regarding your posting history is your posting history

Not sure what there is to see of my posting history for you or others to hold against me

17 juin 2022 à 9 h 41

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Knuckl3s

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Quoting: mv21227

A top 6 C is worth much more than a middle 6 winger (that the Canucks don’t need) and meh prospect

Don't bother arguing with him, he just wants to create a toxic environment through verbal escalation

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17 juin 2022 à 12 h 40

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

One is a rental. The other is not

You also talked about how the Bruins would do it if they knew what he wanted for an extension and liked it. So in that case he would be coming with an extension, so it would cost way more. At least a 1st round pick added, if not more

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17 juin 2022 à 13 h 31

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Quoting: mv21227

When you look at the recent deals that are made, with an extension sorted out so shortly thereafter that it had to have been discussed beforehand, it really hasn’t increased the value much.

Maybe a second. Definitely not a first.

17 juin 2022 à 14 h 34

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Horvat is definitely worth more than a 2nd and middle 6 winger. At recent deadlines, Nick Foligno, Kyle Palmieri, and Barclay Goodrow returned 1st round picks. JG Pageau returned a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. Blake Coleman returned a 1st and recently drafted 1st round prospect

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