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(MTL/VGK) - Weber for Dadonov

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16 juin 2022 à 17 h 57
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why are people voting for the habs? it cost Vegas a 2nd to dump Dadonov in march but now it isn't costing them anything
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16 juin 2022 à 17 h 58
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Anderson is "high demand" according to Friedman.

MTL has way too much wingers to start the year. Maybe Hughes plan to accept a trade for Anderson at the draft
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 0
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So, Vegas decided to turn something into nothing.

Genius idea!
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 1
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Quoting: oilersguy
why are people voting for the habs? it cost Vegas a 2nd to dump Dadonov in march but now it isn't costing them anything


A: people on this website aren’t a huge fan of Vegas
B: Habs fans who probably just voted for their team
C: Dadanov will have some actual value come TDL assuming he doesn’t slip, Montreal could get something back in return
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 1
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Quoting: DongLord23
What happens if he gets hurt?


then they just get out of weber contract for nothing.
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 2
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Both teams get something good but Habs win. This most likely means a winger is getting moved this off-season as we have a logjam there and Dadonov has 1 year left, at the TDL with 50% retention he could get a decent pick/prospect. Vegas also clears Dadonov’s deal and get LTIR shenanigans
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 2
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vegas saved themselves a 2nd trading with the habs instead.
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 3
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why are people voting for the habs? it cost Vegas a 2nd to dump Dadonov in march but now it isn't costing them anything


Because Dadonov won’t be a cap dump to us, he has 1 year left and is still a decent player. We can easily flip him at the TDL for some assets thus making it Shea Weber for assets
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 4
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Because Dadonov won’t be a cap dump to us, he has 1 year left and is still a decent player. We can easily flip him at the TDL for some assets thus making it Shea Weber for assets


yeah I guess that makes sense
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 4
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Quoting: oilersguy
why are people voting for the habs? it cost Vegas a 2nd to dump Dadonov in march but now it isn't costing them anything


Probably just Habs fans
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 5
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I hate the fact that Vegas is getting out of their cap troubles this easily
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 5
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Quoting: DongLord23
What happens if he gets hurt?


If you make up a future injury for every trade, none would every be made...

Just trade him back BEFORE he get that hypothetical injury. I'm pretty smart.
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 8
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If you make up a future injury for every trade, none would every be made...

Just trade him back BEFORE he get that hypothetical injury. I'm pretty smart.


That's why you get the pick as part of the return.

Not a HYPOTHETICAL flip at the TDL

You never know what could happen. Guy can get injured. Guy can play bad.

That's why it's a Vegas W
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 8
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mccrimmon woke up this morning and decided he never wants to accure cap space ever again
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 14
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Quoting: DongLord23
That's why you get the pick as part of the return.

Not a HYPOTHETICAL flip at the TDL

You never know what could happen. Guy can get injured. Guy can play bad.

That's why it's a Vegas W


i mean you could just trade for a player then he gets injured. you can say that for every single trade... cant predict injuries...
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 14
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 15
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Just a side node, Montreal is now subject to $857k in recapture penalties if Weber decides to retire before his contract ends. Not sure why he would, but just throwing it out there.

Nashville would still get hit with Weber's full cap hit in recapture penalties if he retires early.
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: drambui
i mean you could just trade for a player then he gets injured. you can say that for every single trade... cant predict injuries...


No you can't lol. Most trades are getting picks back as a return. You're not getting any picks back in the trade.

You're basing the value off a hypothetical flip at the deadline. Not by the actual return of the trade.
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 29
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It will be interesting to see if both Dadonov and Nyquist are available at the deadline and how one’s availability impacts the other. They have similar contracts, production, and playing styles.
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 29
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I think it ok trade, but the canadiens have a little space in salary cap. So we will see. They need more improvement in the roster in my highly opinion.
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 32
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 32
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Quoting: DongLord23
That's why you get the pick as part of the return.

Not a HYPOTHETICAL flip at the TDL

You never know what could happen. Guy can get injured. Guy can play bad.

That's why it's a Vegas W


How negative are you when your biggest argument against getting a 20G/40pts player for nothing is
"Draft picks can't get injured"...

So you would not trade a pick to get Crosby BeCaUsE hE cOuLd InJuReS hImSeLf! This is a next level **** argument...

Go search for Dadonov last serious injury. I'll wait.
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 36
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For the people going on about how the Ducks were getting 2nd with Dadonov keep in mind that happened at the trade deadline when Vegas needed cap space or they couldn't ice a full lineup while in a playoff race. That's a different market than the offseason when teams can exceed the cap by 10%. Overall I like this for MTL, they get a slightly overpaid 20 goal guy that they should be able to flip at the TDL, and if he performs as wells as the last cap dump they got from Vegas (Tatar in the Pacioretty deal), the return might be impressive. Vegas gets immediate cap flexibility, but LTIR isn't a cure for their cap issues.
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16 juin 2022 à 18 h 37
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If all goes well, Dadonov could be a great TDL asset (probably will fetch a 2nd IMO). As such, I think the Habs won the trade.
16 juin 2022 à 18 h 44
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The trade is fine value for the Habs in a vacuum but disappointing given what the Ducks would have got for taking on Dadynov at the deadline (and they were able to dump Moore in that deal as well). Still voted fair deal.
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