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28 juin 2022 à 12 h 26
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
there's a reason you only have 5k likes on your 18k posts. ****ty take lol

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"Likes" is a count of how many I've given, not how many I've received!

And my take is 100% accurate. Vegas gets a MASSIVE amount of cap relief with this move and it didn't cost them anything of value.
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28 juin 2022 à 12 h 30
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You are incorrect sir. Although it's very simple to just add both Dadonov's contract with Weber's and think "that's how much they're saving in cap space", it's wrong. VGK replaced Dadonov's contract with Weber's... so the only cap relief they will get is from Weber's contract. $7.85mil. Not the addition of both.


My initial comment was correct. Vegas deleted Dadonov's contract ($5M) plus took on Weber's which will go straight to LTIR, allowing them to exceed the cap by his $7.86M cap hit. For Vegas, it's $12.86M in cap relief and it didn't cost them a damn thing.

They were prepared to part with a 2nd to move Dadonov's $5M cap hit, so this is a huge win for them.
28 juin 2022 à 13 h 2
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tears of joy

"Likes" is a count of how many I've given, not how many I've received!

And my take is 100% accurate. Vegas gets a MASSIVE amount of cap relief with this move and it didn't cost them anything of value.


Yeah that's totally fine. I never once said Vegas lost this trade.
29 juin 2022 à 20 h 11
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tears of joy

"Likes" is a count of how many I've given, not how many I've received!

And my take is 100% accurate. Vegas gets a MASSIVE amount of cap relief with this move and it didn't cost them anything of value.


No, the “likes” under posts in the user is how many you’ve received. Weird of him to bring it up, but he is correct on how it works.
30 juin 2022 à 13 h 26
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No, the “likes” under posts in the user is how many you’ve received. Weird of him to bring it up, but he is correct on how it works.

That's odd. The likes on my profile are ones I've given, not received. How can you be sure?
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30 juin 2022 à 13 h 34
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No, the “likes” under posts in the user is how many you’ve received. Weird of him to bring it up, but he is correct on how it works.


In any case, it doesn't matter. His point was 'you aren't popular therefore you must be wrong' which doesn't hold water with me. I couldn't care less about being popular.
30 juin 2022 à 23 h 31
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That's odd. The likes on my profile are ones I've given, not received. How can you be sure?


Oh yes, when you look at your profile, it shows the ones you give, but the number under your amount of posts is the amount of likes you’ve received. But as you said

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In any case, it doesn't matter. His point was 'you aren't popular therefore you must be wrong' which doesn't hold water with me. I couldn't care less about being popular.


I agree, it doesn’t matter that much.
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8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 41
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Like this for Montreal. They trade a "negative asset" and acquiring a 40 PT pending UFA (next season) that they can flip at the TD for a massive return.


We can forget the massive return 😆
8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 46
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We can forget the massive return 😆


Still addition by subtraction. Dadonov will be gone at the end of the year and Weber's contract isn't our problem anymore.
8 janv. 2023 à 15 h 2
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Still addition by subtraction. Dadonov will be gone at the end of the year and Weber's contract isn't our problem anymore.


Yeah I know it was a win-win trade since day 1 but huge for Vegas
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8 janv. 2023 à 16 h 21
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Yeah I know it was a win-win trade since day 1 but huge for Vegas


Yeah it makes sense for both teams. Great trade
26 févr. 2023 à 14 h 58
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Goldmine of bad takes.

'"Yeah I'll start it already. Massive return as in 1st round pick + meh prospect. That's a massive return IMO . Hell even a 2nd round pick is good enough"

"Dadonov is not a cap dump"
26 févr. 2023 à 16 h 5
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Goldmine of bad takes.

'"Yeah I'll start it already. Massive return as in 1st round pick + meh prospect. That's a massive return IMO . Hell even a 2nd round pick is good enough"

"Dadonov is not a cap dump"


You just gonna completely ignore the rest of the conversation we had after that? Not surprised you'd comment something like that.
26 févr. 2023 à 16 h 12
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You just gonna completely ignore the rest of the conversation we had after that? Not surprised you'd comment something like that.


You said that I was gonna delete my account because I'd be wrong lol.

I said that Dadonov could PLAY BAD (guess what happened) or get injured. Should've got a pick back.

You were acting very smug & were completely wrong.
26 févr. 2023 à 16 h 14
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You said that I was gonna delete my account because I'd be wrong lol.

I said that Dadonov could PLAY BAD (guess what happened) or get injured. Should've got a pick back.

You were acting very smug & were completely wrong.


Did I say somewhere in our conversation where that return was guaranteed. I said he needed to continue his form with Vegas which obviously did not happen. If he didn't, we simply got out from Weber for nothing. We got a struggling player which is better than nothing IMO. Wasn't the return I was hoping for obviously if everything went perfect, but the chances of that happening were very unlikely. It was a low risk high reward move that didn't pay off.
26 févr. 2023 à 16 h 19
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Did I say somewhere in our conversation where that return was guaranteed. I said he needed to continue his form with Vegas which obviously did not happen. If he didn't, we simply got out from Weber for nothing. We got a struggling player which is better than nothing IMO. Wasn't the return I was hoping for obviously if everything went perfect, but the chances of that happening were very unlikely. It was a low risk high reward move that didn't pay off.


You said he wasn't a cap dump & was a positive asset. That I'd delete my account once he gets a good return and you can gloat lol. People are wrong all the time it's no big deal, but when someone acts that smug It's certainly fun to rub it in their face a little.
26 févr. 2023 à 16 h 21
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You said he wasn't a cap dump & was a positive asset. That I'd delete my account once he gets a good return and you can gloat lol. People are wrong all the time it's no big deal, but when someone acts that smug It's certainly fun to rub it in their face a little.


He wasn't a cap dump though. You aren't rubbing any in my face. Not sure if it was our conversation, but I said it many times, just because it was a cap dump for Vegas doesn't mean it was a cap dump for anyone else. MAF had value, Pacioretty had value, Dadonov had value.
 
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