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Miller Trade help me fill in the blanks

Créé par: Hullsy09
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2022
Publié: 16 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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This is what I want to happen but I don't know who to put where I put "Unknown Player __". What do you think about the team and the unknown players?

Questions people will ask:

*Carter wont be moved. He just had to big of a role last year. 3C, PP, and PK was too much. He can still effectively play 3rd line wing, one of PP and PK, while taking key faceoffs whenever he is needed to. We need to keep him fresh.

*McGinn wont be traded. He was pretty good before his injury this year and management wont give up on him after one year based on the term he got. He would only get moved if they wanted to do something like this and couldn't move zucker or they don't want to buyout zucker.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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1777 777 $
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  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
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16 juin 2022 à 14 h 39
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I know it's not sexy but for Unknown Player C, maybe Luke Schenn can be a piece coming back in the trade for Miller. He's cheap ($850,000), right handed and coming off a season of 66 GP while finishing +15. He also averaged more ice time than he has in the last 6 seasons. Any Vancouver fans wants to weigh in on the pros/cons of Schenn?
16 juin 2022 à 14 h 45
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Quoting: Play_Party_Hard
I know it's not sexy but for Unknown Player C, maybe Luke Schenn can be a piece coming back in the trade for Miller. He's cheap ($850,000), right handed and coming off a season of 66 GP while finishing +15. He also averaged more ice time than he has in the last 6 seasons. Any Vancouver fans wants to weigh in on the pros/cons of Schenn?


I am very high on schenn but can he play second pairing? Would this be too weak of a d-core? Perhaps we get schenn to play with matheson and sign subban to play with POJ?

I know that you can spread over the talent over your 3 pairings. Look at tampa: top 3 dmen are all on different pairings (Hedman, sergachev, mcdonaugh)
16 juin 2022 à 14 h 47
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Detroit accepts.

Nylander will not survive being put through waivers so will have to be given one of the spots on the roster.
16 juin 2022 à 14 h 52
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Detroit accepts.

Nylander will not survive being put through waivers so will have to be given one of the spots on the roster.


True. this was something I considered
16 juin 2022 à 15 h 0
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No reason for Ducks to take 5.5m Zucker
16 juin 2022 à 15 h 3
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No reason for Ducks to take 5.5m Zucker


You guys need to hit the cap floor.

There is also no reason for you guys not to do this. He would play in your top 6 and be a solid player if healthy. His health is a risk and is why we are trading him but it’s a risk that you guys can take.
16 juin 2022 à 15 h 17
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arizona and anaheim are both teams that are primed to take on Zucker to meet cap floor. mid season that pairing of him, e-rod and kapanen was a very good line. i wouldn't be surprised if he and kapanens rfa rights aren't traded to anaheim
16 juin 2022 à 15 h 33
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arizona and anaheim are both teams that are primed to take on Zucker to meet cap floor. mid season that pairing of him, e-rod and kapanen was a very good line. i wouldn't be surprised if he and kapanens rfa rights aren't traded to anaheim


especially anaheim who is trying to start competing without over committing to long term contracts. Zucker would be a great rental for them instead of paying some guy 6X6 in FA
16 juin 2022 à 15 h 47
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Really would love this top 6.

Couple points: Zucker has a NTC that would no doubt include Anaheim and Arizona. McGinn should try to be moved at all costs. He was not good at any point during the season. And putting DOC/Zohorna in his place saves $2mil. Trade him for a washing machine lol.

To fill in the unknown's; maybe Manson, DOC, and Heinen?
16 juin 2022 à 16 h 10
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Really would love this top 6.

Couple points: Zucker has a NTC that would no doubt include Anaheim and Arizona. McGinn should try to be moved at all costs. He was not good at any point during the season. And putting DOC/Zohorna in his place saves $2mil. Trade him for a washing machine lol.

To fill in the unknown's; maybe Manson, DOC, and Heinen?


I agree with everything you said. Maybe zucker would waive for a bigger role and a change of scenery? If not the buyout would be an option.

I don’t think mcginn will be traded that’s why I left him
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16 juin 2022 à 16 h 17
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I agree with everything you said. Maybe zucker would waive for a bigger role and a change of scenery? If not the buyout would be an option.

I don’t think mcginn will be traded that’s why I left him


I agree - I don't think he will be traded either. That's just my wish. If I was going for what I think would happen I would leave him as well.

I guess I never thought about taking into account Zucker being a nice guy and waiving the clause haha. I'm pretty sure he is from LA so that may help as well. Buyout is always an option. Personally I would rather bite the bullet and keep him for one year than buying him out.
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I agree - I don't think he will be traded either. That's just my wish. If I was going for what I think would happen I would leave him as well.

I guess I never thought about taking into account Zucker being a nice guy and waiving the clause haha. I'm pretty sure he is from LA so that may help as well. Buyout is always an option. Personally I would rather bite the bullet and keep him for one year than buying him out.


I could see a world where we keep him and pay Vancouver extra to retain on Miller. If everything goes well zucker could be a beast on the 3rd line
16 juin 2022 à 17 h 15
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Here are some options I like:

3rd line:
- Anthanasiou
- Vatrano
- Nichushkin (could play second line then slide Rakell to third or first/alternate to see who has chemistry)
- Reilly Smith
- Marchment

4th line:
- Deslaurias
- One of our guys (O'Conner, Puustinen, Poulin)
- ZAR (not the biggest fan offensively but Bluger plays better with him)

2nd D:
- Zadorov
- Manson
- Subban (more 3rd line)

I would personally try to move McGinn, although I see where your coming from. I think we could cut back the spending a lot having Bluger play 3rd line, and O'Conner center the 4th line (his stats are great at center). McGinn, while not bad, is just too much to pay a 4th liner I think.
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16 juin 2022 à 17 h 30
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Quoting: JSEB93
I agree - I don't think he will be traded either. That's just my wish. If I was going for what I think would happen I would leave him as well.

I guess I never thought about taking into account Zucker being a nice guy and waiving the clause haha. I'm pretty sure he is from LA so that may help as well. Buyout is always an option. Personally I would rather bite the bullet and keep him for one year than buying him out.


I know he has the kings as a team he's willing to go to, so i wouldn't be surprised if he'd allow a trade to anaheim.
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16 juin 2022 à 17 h 33
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Really would love this top 6.

Couple points: Zucker has a NTC that would no doubt include Anaheim and Arizona. McGinn should try to be moved at all costs. He was not good at any point during the season. And putting DOC/Zohorna in his place saves $2mil. Trade him for a washing machine lol.

To fill in the unknown's; maybe Manson, DOC, and Heinen?


He has a 10 team NTC, so that probably covers the 7 Canadian teams, then likely a bit of a crapshoot from there. Could include Philly, NJ, Detroit, Anaheim or Arizona. So it's not completely far fetched to think he could be moved to Anaheim.
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I could see a world where we keep him and pay Vancouver extra to retain on Miller. If everything goes well zucker could be a beast on the 3rd line


A healthy Zucker on the 3rd line would be great I agree. He plays hard, he plays fast, and still has skill. It's not that he's a bad player, just overpaid - especially given the injuries.
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17 juin 2022 à 11 h 36
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I know he has the kings as a team he's willing to go to, so i wouldn't be surprised if he'd allow a trade to anaheim.


Is that public knowledge? If so, we should make that trade yesterday haha
17 juin 2022 à 11 h 37
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He has a 10 team NTC, so that probably covers the 7 Canadian teams, then likely a bit of a crapshoot from there. Could include Philly, NJ, Detroit, Anaheim or Arizona. So it's not completely far fetched to think he could be moved to Anaheim.


You think he would automatically veto the Canadian teams? Especially considering how good 3 of them were last year? I would be very happy if that's the case
17 juin 2022 à 11 h 44
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Is that public knowledge? If so, we should make that trade yesterday haha


He is from the LA area, so I would guess all the Cali teams would not be on his NTC
17 juin 2022 à 12 h 0
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He is from the LA area, so I would guess all the Cali teams would not be on his NTC


Looks like I need to dive back in and make a new team lol
17 juin 2022 à 13 h 2
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Zucker when healthy is a great 3rd line winger, the issue is his production/ability to stay healthy isn't 5.5 mill worthy which i think we all agree. if zuck's was making 3 million this discussion doesn't exist.
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Zucker when healthy is a great 3rd line winger, the issue is his production/ability to stay healthy isn't 5.5 mill worthy which i think we all agree. if zuck's was making 3 million this discussion doesn't exist.


exactly. I am a huge fan of him and I would love to see him succeed in Pitt but he just has to stay healthy and IDK if that is a risk we can afford to take
21 juin 2022 à 16 h 25
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You think he would automatically veto the Canadian teams? Especially considering how good 3 of them were last year? I would be very happy if that's the case


From what I have seen with Zucker is that it's not exactly about whether or not he is going to a good team. He is more focused on his family (which includes his step children). It's the step children that create the biggest issue because their father has visitation rights. I just figured that if this is a concern of his, he would be less likely to want to spend half the season in Canada. I guess Toronto and Montreal are both relatively close to Minnesota, but Toronto have zero cap space for Zucker and Montreal is definitely on his no trade list.
 
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