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Créé par: twodollarlobster

Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2022

Publié: 16 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I should preface this with the fact that I do not watch NYR games and am purely going off what I've heard in podcasts, TSN, etc. I also don't know how far away Edmonton is from NYR with all these stats and stuff so I might be wrong on that too.

I'm seeing a lot of trades for Georgiev to go to the Oilers for various types of picks. I've looked at his numbers last year and they aren't great. From what I've been told/read a bit about though, the Rangers have bad possession and shot numbers and Shesterkin was able to bail them out a ton.

So here is my question: Is Georgiev really that bad, or is he a good goalie that couldn't keep up with the shot/possession numbers the same way Shesterkin did? If Georgiev went to a team that had better stats (maybe like the Oilers) do you think he would be okay?

Transactions

EDM

Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]

NYR

Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Not my actual trade don't yell at me. See description for my question to Ranger fans

Rachats de contrats

James Neal: 1 916 667 $
Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (12.5%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
15	82 500 000 $	75 369 795 $	896 000 $	1 700 000 $	7 130 205 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Kassian, Zack 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 7	Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Foegele, Warren 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Ryan, Derek 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
Shore, Devin 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8	Barrie, Tyson 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Smith, Mike 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ G UFA - 1
Keith, Duncan 5 538 462 $5 538 462 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Ceci, Cody 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Broberg, Philip 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG RFA - 2	Bouchard, Evan 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Klefbom, Oscar 4 167 000 $4 167 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1

16 juin 2022 à 9 h 36

Jdrangers

Rejoint: févr. 2022

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Mentions "j'aime": 10

He has a starter mentality. He used to be our starter and he was good, but hes a bad backup because he has a bad mindset

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16 juin 2022 à 9 h 38

FreeTacosAreBestTacos

Servant of Chaos

Rejoint: janv. 2016

Messages: 1,111

Mentions "j'aime": 453

Georgiev is...weird. I definitely think he's a better starter than backup though. He needs to be seeing pucks consistently, he's not super great at coming in once every 4 or 5 games, but seems to perform better in stretches where he's the starter

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16 juin 2022 à 9 h 51

hero9154

Rejoint: juin 2018

Messages: 1,837

Mentions "j'aime": 908

Georgiev plays better and is more consistent when he receives regular playing time. He would probably make a better starter than backup. That being said, if he isn't traded by July 8th, you can get him for nothing as the Rangers most likely wont qualify him.

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16 juin 2022 à 10 h 3

CD282

Rejoint: mars 2017

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Quoting: Twodollarlobster

If Georgiev went to a team that had better stats (maybe like the Oilers) do you think he would be okay?

Your mistake is presuming that Edmonton has better stats than New York, when in fact the two teams are remarkably similar.

Shots against/60
NYR: 30.51
EDM: 31.90

Expected goals against/60
NYR: 2.81
EDM: 2.92

High danger corsi against/60
NYR: 12.00
EDM: 11.50

There's no reason to believe that Georgiev would magically raise his game in Edmonton.

twodollarlobster a aimé ceci.

16 juin 2022 à 10 h 32

Goalie

Exhausted Ranger Fan

Rejoint: juin 2021

Messages: 1,043

Mentions "j'aime": 451

Quoting: CD282

Georgiev getting more playing time would raise his game

16 juin 2022 à 10 h 33

NYR1983

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 6,250

Mentions "j'aime": 2,527

Don’t compare his numbers to Shesty… we are the worst team defensively so with proper team in front of him he would be good. For example on the Leafs.. he would bet better than Soup as per analytics. The 3rd would get him

16 juin 2022 à 10 h 35

NYR1983

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 6,250

Mentions "j'aime": 2,527

Quoting: Despise

Georgiev getting more playing time would raise his game

It’s more so how bad the team in front of him is.. can’t compare him to shesty. Shesty is actually the best goalie out there when it comes to analytics. And it’s not close

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