That Vancouver trade for NJ *ouch*

Also that Nashville trade *ouch* for Nashville

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Whatever

Why are you just giving Woods away. And why is NJ getting picks back in the Varlamov trade, he's the better goalie

Yeah, but Blackwood is still younger and under team control

I'm giving Woods away because he arguably doesn't fit the direction the Devils are going in and he hasn't played for a long long time due to injury rehab, so there is no guarantee what he looks like when he comes back. Don't see why he's worth his QO

Why would devils give away the the young emerging top line talent to buy high on a really good player that is likely going to have a really poorly aging contract? They can just sign Bratt to an 8 year deal with roughly the same overall value as that Miller extension and keep their pick.

Miller is still the better player, Bratt is unlikely to ever be as complete a player as Miller is, and Miller receiving an Albatross contract is not a foregone conclusion until it happens

He’s quickly turning into a PPG player and is still only 23 I believe. No reason to believe he doesn’t continue to improve especially as the devils mature and get better talent around him.

If there’s no agreed to extension idk why the Devils would even think about trading for Miller. And with an extension I still don’t understand the logic of signing Miller long term over Bratt. Maybe Miller is better than Bratt for 1 more year? Two tops? And then what. I get that you’re a nucks fan but have to be realistic about this one.

I think I AM being realistic, and I think Bratt tops out as a PPG player, that's how I came about prosposing that trade

The Bratt plus for Miller trade is a head scratcher for sure.

No I don't see how it is, at least not for the Devils

Which has essentially been a mark that Miller was under his whole career until his age 30 season. Maybe that’s an outlier? I just can’t see any team trading a 30 year player who needs a big extension coming off of a career year for a young team controlled player who is already a PPG player at age 23..

Somehow I don’t think I’m in the minority

Well, New Jersey is one of the only teams that has the cap space to extend Miller while also having a sense of urgency to be competitive, so I don't see why they'd pass up on the opportunity when not many other teams are in a position to offer the same for Miller. If the Devils aren't in the Miller sweepstakes, it probably means Miller just re-signs with the Canucks because he wouldn't have the leverage to ask for more money because no other competitive teams would be willing to give Miller more money than Vancouver is willing to most likely

Bratt just entering prime ( soon 24) and still on RFA / under team control... Miller well out of prime years (30 next season), UFA on horizon after next season. Bratt fits the age bracket Fitzgerald has publicly stated is his core target group (Hischier/Hughes). Both players had career years, but from Bratt seems to be the ascending player in possession. I just dont see why NJ would do this ... just to get more size?

Buddy, you made the trade. It's bad for NJ and if everyone EVERYONE from other fanbases thinks so that something is wrong with the trade.

Can we just stop all pretending that Miller if traded is going to get you the best top line player on the other team +. Like this is almost as bad as giving NJ fans nothing for the 2OA pick. Should've added the 2OA for NJ cause both trades would have the same probability of being accepted 0

I've heard the opinions of just three users, that's hardly substantial. Miller is a better player than Bratt, get over it, I don't care about the age difference

Yes, to get more size, cause they desperately need it, and without losing any skill in the process. I don't think Bratt is on the ascension anymore, I think he plateaus as a perennial PPG player

Ok, it will be interesting to watch his career... Even if he has hit his plateau, I still believe most GMs would value Bratt over Miller right now, at min due to age & contract. For NJ, there are cheaper ways to add size & they can still be patient to add the right piece. I think Fitzgerald's seat is warming up, but I dont see why he would need to make short term desperation plays. I think that's exactly why Shero got fired, he miscalculated where the team was and made poor moves in a desperate attempt to shore up a flawed team around Hall. Fitzgerald may have learned from that.

Nah, I don't think Bratt's age is enough to make him more valuable than Miller. Miller isn't a short-term desperation play because he will come with an extension in the proposed scenario

They’ve been pretty patient with the rebuild so I don’t think they’re moving a key young core piece but I won’t rehash my past comments here. They could also just sign another UFA like Forsberg while not moving Bratt. They have the cap space like you said.

Forsberg will probably be even more expensive than a Miller extension, so I'd say the Devils can't afford Forsberg, and the Devils can't afford to be patient any longer

Just interested to hear why you think Bratt has plateaued?

Also is Miller considered big? I know he plays with an edge but I thought he’s on the smaller end too. Might be bigger than Bratt but if the goal is to get bigger just keep Bratt and sign Nuke.

They could easily afford it if you look at their cap space now and going forward. Swapping Miller for Bratt also doesn’t really speed up the winning, need to add to the core not swap guys out.

Can try and sign Nuke as well. Miller is also a great Character guy, that's another thing he has over Bratt, and even Nuke

Oh the Devils need to swap guys out on their roster too, not just add. I suppose technically they can afford Forsberg, I just don't see it as optimal use of their cap space for what he brings