Pens pass. Not that Horvat isn't a really solid player, but assuming Geno signs our 4 centers are set in stone already.

Jackets pass. Canucks wouldn’t like the offer. Really any team targeting Horvat needs to be teams on the cusp of serious cup contention.

IF he does get traded, Colorado, Boston, and New York may need him

Philly passes. They don't need more center depth

Canucks shouldn't trade Horvat unless he's being unreasonable during negotiations for a contract extension

I disagree, assuming the offer is substantial I would definitely consider trading him. The reason being, this team is no were near contention and doesn't have the cap space or assets to become a contender for at least 3-4 years, at which point Horvat will be well past his prime.

Lol, this team can be a contender in as little as 3 years time WITH Horvat. Trading the likes of Miller will return a fine amount of future assets. Canucks aren't as for from contending as you think. They're not undergoing a full rebuild

Personally I would like to keep Miller and trade Horvat. I honestly wouldn't be opposed to trading both of them though. We would need to get some NHL ready talent in that case though.

True, it all depends on what both players want for their next contracts

I agree we can be a really solid team in 3years time. I would prefer to keep Miller over Horvat though. I think the return would be similar to Miller but Horvat is more easily replaceable.

We are ALREADY a solid team. We can be an ELITE team in 3 years is what I'm saying

I really like both players and think there is a possibility we contend for the playoffs keeping one or both of them. That said, unless the Canucks are able to stockpile a large amount of young assets I cannot see them becoming a contender for a very long time, and since their prospect cupboards are bare its going to take multiple significant pieces being moved. Considering age and return, I think JT and BH should be top candidates to be moved.

My definition of really solid team is like top 10 in the league and we are certainly not there right now. Elite in 3 years is possible but we would have things go exactly right for us which imo would include a homerun trade on Miller or Horvat.

If we lose Miller we are going to need to find another elite forward somehow. If we trade Horvat we just need to find a 3C.

We are no where near being a solid team... How many times have we made the playoffs the last 5 years?
How are we becoming an elite team in 3 years? We literally have one prospect who has a good chance of becoming an NHL player, we lack a 2nd in this draft, we have little cap space.

LMAO, we are a solid team as is, just because we haven't made the playoffs in a while has nothing to do with where the team is now. We have 2-3 prospects who could make the NHL, we're not in a cap crunch. Getting the roster back on track isn't going to take a full rebuild

Yup, will need another elite forward if Miller goes

Your definition of a solid team has too high a bar IMO, top 10 in the league should be the definition of an ELITE team

Of course the Canucks need more future assets, but they don't need to undergo a full rebuild to turn themselves into a contender. The front office has preached this to us time and time again

"LMAO" if you think a non playoff team that hasn't made the playoffs in three years is "solid".

2-3 players that could make the NHL, one that has a good chance, only one whom has a decent chance at becoming a top 4 D or top 6 forward.

I don't think either of us are suggesting a full rebuild. A full rebuild would involve trading Petey Hughes and Demko IMO. I don't think trading Miller and/or Bo has to mean it's a full rebuild. You can target younger NHL talent in those deals rather than just futures. And then you would also open up the capspace to add in free agency.

Colorado has 5 players left from they abysmal 2016/17 season and 5 years later are in elite and in the Cup finals but they didn't rebuild. They identified their core players and were willing to move anyone else but didn't only target futures they also targeted young players that were ready to step into the NHL.

They don't need a full rebuild, but they need to take a few steps back to take big steps forward.

That's not too bad in my book, plus we have a new regime in town and we haven't even seen what kind of magic they could conjure up this off-season. I say be optimistic

Canucks need to turn themselves into a contender in LESS than 5 years, otherwise they will have failed to capitalize on Hughes and Demko's contract, and their efforts to be competitive will have been for nothing. That would be an organizational failure if the Canucks don't become legitimate cup contenders in MINIMUM 3 years

They don't need to take a competitive step back, just a transactional step back. There is a difference. They just can't take a leap forward next season, that's all

I think it's clear we aren't going to agree this time around. We have very different opinions as to where this team is and how it goes about becoming a contender.

Lol, I think management has made it clear that they intend to compete for a playoff spot next year. The team isn't tanking. That's a pretty firm declaration to unite around