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Date de création initiale: 15 juin 2022
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rumor is larkin is looking for a 1 year extension to probably get higher long term . will steve play along
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 26
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GO FLAMES GO
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 29
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This only works if the Devils throw in Dougie, Hughes, Nico, the demogorgon from Stranger things, and Sweden's GDP.
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 36
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Provide a source, Larkin is one year out of free agency that's where you're coming up with the one year part.

Pierre LeBrun just said that both sides want to get a long term deal done sooner rather than later.

How does trading Larkin to NJD make any sense when they already have Hughes and Hischier as their 1C and 2C you going to pay Larkin 8 x $9,500,000 to be their 3C i don't think so.

If we deal Larkin it's probably to Columbus where he can play with his buddy Zack Werenski for Kent Johnson the 2022 Chicago #6 overall pick Columbus 2023 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick with an extension.

Any ways you're wrong Dylan Larkin isn't looking at a one year deal. But there has been talk of going short term then possibly long term when he's in his early 30's.
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 36
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Larkin is definitely worth a lot more then Eichle so this deal makes a ton of sense for NJ
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 43
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Provide a source, Larkin is one year out of free agency that's where you're coming up with the one year part.

Pierre LeBrun just said that both sides want to get a long term deal done sooner rather than later.

How does trading Larkin to NJD make any sense when they already have Hughes and Hischier as their 1C and 2C you going to pay Larkin 8 x $9,500,000 to be their 3C i don't think so.

If we deal Larkin it's probably to Columbus where he can play with his buddy Zack Werenski for Kent Johnson the 2022 Chicago #6 overall pick Columbus 2023 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick with an extension.

Any ways you're wrong Dylan Larkin isn't looking at a one year deal. But there has been talk of going short term then possibly long term when he's in his early 30's.


Kent Johnson, 6OA, another first and a 2nd? Are you SMOKING CRACK? I get Larkin's been like the only bright spot on the Red Wings and they need to make it a good deal if they trade him but no way any other GM gives up that much.
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 45
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If Larkin is looking for a 1 year deal, why would the Devils do this for a rental?!
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 47
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Quoting: JackHughesELITE
Kent Johnson, 6OA, another first and a 2nd? Are you SMOKING CRACK? I get Larkin's been like the only bright spot on the Red Wings and they need to make it a good deal if they trade him but no way any other GM gives up that much.


And extended Larkin is worth every bit that much. Look at what both Seth Jones and Hampus Lindholm got in return and get back to me.
15 juin 2022 à 17 h 47
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Quoting: Scoob1978
This only works if the Devils throw in Dougie, Hughes, Nico, the demogorgon from Stranger things, and Sweden's GDP.


That's awesome and it made me laugh out loud.
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 49
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And extended Larkin is worth every bit that much. Look at what both Seth Jones and Hampus Lindholm got in return and get back to me.


Jesus God, he is not Brayden Point. He's not a 1C on a contender. He's a very solid middle of the pack 1C or an excellent 2C. He is very certainly not worth three firsts.
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 50
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If your going say something like that you pretty much have to provide a source.
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 54
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
If Larkin is looking for a 1 year deal, why would the Devils do this for a rental?!


I wouldn't worry too much he has yet to name a source. It sounds a lot like an Ekund rumor.
15 juin 2022 à 17 h 54
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Quoting: squashmaple
Jesus God, he is not Brayden Point. He's not a 1C on a contender. He's a very solid middle of the pack 1C or an excellent 2C. He is very certainly not worth three firsts.


laugh Is this a freaking joke, Right now he's a heck of a lot better than Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier which neither can even stay healthy. Larkins best season 73 points neither Hughes or Hischier have come close yet.
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15 juin 2022 à 17 h 55
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Both teams say no. Detroit's not looking to restart their rebuild, and New Jersey would not give up that much when they already have 2 good young centers.
15 juin 2022 à 18 h 0
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And extended Larkin is worth every bit that much. Look at what both Seth Jones and Hampus Lindholm got in return and get back to me.


And then look at Buchnevich and Reinhart and the lowly returns they got. We could do this all day. Just cause one GM does a bad deal doesn't mean another GM should do another. Also those are both deals done by CHI and BOS, CHI a team in which was trying anything to extend the Kane-Toews window and BOS who were competing and that was a deadline deal. CBJ is not in the same position as either of those teams. The Lindholm deal also is no where close to this. A mid to late first two seconds and a former first rounder who's 23 and played like 40 nhl games is peanuts compared to the package you proposed. A 5th overall pick from a year ago, 6th overall this year and another first next year as well as a second would literally cripple that franchise's future. All for a low 1C to high end 2C. I want what you're smoking. That is not worth it for a guy who will put up anywhere from 0.7- 0.95 ppg. Get the homer goggles off.
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15 juin 2022 à 18 h 10
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laugh Is this a freaking joke, Right now he's a heck of a lot better than Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier which neither can even stay healthy. Larkins best season 73 points neither Hughes or Hischier have come close yet.


Dude, I'm a Columbus fan. I could not care less about Hughes or Hischier or New Jersey in general (I have family there, it's a lovely state, no offence Jersey). Larkin is not a top-15 1c and that is a fact. His value is higher for Detroit due to his local connection, and that's fine. Detroit should do whatever it possibly can to keep the guy. But no team is going to give you a Jones return for him, let alone last year's 5th OA, this year's 6th OA, and a probably 2023 lottery, PLUS. That's crackpipe fantasy.
15 juin 2022 à 18 h 12
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laugh Is this a freaking joke, Right now he's a heck of a lot better than Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier which neither can even stay healthy. Larkins best season 73 points neither Hughes or Hischier have come close yet.


Jack > Dylan > Nico
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15 juin 2022 à 18 h 15
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Dude, I'm a Columbus fan. I could not care less about Hughes or Hischier or New Jersey in general (I have family there, it's a lovely state, no offence Jersey). Larkin is not a top-15 1c and that is a fact. His value is higher for Detroit due to his local connection, and that's fine. Detroit should do whatever it possibly can to keep the guy. But no team is going to give you a Jones return for him, let alone last year's 5th OA, this year's 6th OA, and a probably 2023 lottery, PLUS. That's crackpipe fantasy.


If Larkin was in Columbus right now he'd 100% be your current 1C he's better than anyone you currently have on the roster not named Patrik Laine. Doesn't matter he wont be a Blue Jacket so it's all moot to begin with.
15 juin 2022 à 18 h 16
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Jack > Dylan > Nico


Perhaps in another 10 years, But right now Larkin > Hughes > Hischier.
15 juin 2022 à 18 h 17
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While Larkin is likely never going to be traded, this is a return I can get behind.
15 juin 2022 à 18 h 24
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Perhaps in another 10 years, But right now Larkin > Hughes > Hischier.


Don‘t mind. You probably haven‘t watched the Devils enough to know. Anyway, enjoy the finals..
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15 juin 2022 à 18 h 25
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If Larkin was in Columbus right now he'd 100% be your current 1C he's better than anyone you currently have on the roster not named Patrik Laine. Doesn't matter he wont be a Blue Jacket so it's all moot to begin with.


No argument there. Both of us are rebuilding. Larkin doesn't really fit the Jackets timeline, and if Stevie does his job, he won't really fit yours either.
15 juin 2022 à 18 h 37
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Larkin only wants a 1 year deal 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
15 juin 2022 à 19 h 14
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Quoting: squashmaple
Larkin is not a top-15 1c and that is a fact.


Looking at C's who are better than Larkin, cause now I'm curious...

McD, MacK, AM, Crosby, Drai, Barkov, ROR, Point, Bergeron, Ziba, Kopitar, Lindholm, Stamkos, maybe Aho & Eichel. He's a top 15 IMO.
15 juin 2022 à 20 h 21
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Looking at C's who are better than Larkin, cause now I'm curious...

McD, MacK, AM, Crosby, Drai, Barkov, ROR, Point, Bergeron, Ziba, Kopitar, Lindholm, Stamkos, maybe Aho & Eichel. He's a top 15 IMO.


My back-of-envelope list...in 25-30 range I think

McDavid
MacKinnon
Matthews
Draisaitl
Barkov

Crosby
Bergeron
Lindholm
Point
Aho

Hughes
Thomas
Eichel
Backstrom
Pettersson

Stamkos
Zibanejad
Scheifele
Kopitar
Tavares

Barzal
Hintz
Kuznetsov
Hertl
Kadri

O'Reilly
Hischier
Suzuki
Larkin < --- #29
Couturier

Norris
Dubois
Horvat
Duchene
Reinhart

Zegras
Eriksson-Ek
Trocheck
Danault
Cirelli
15 juin 2022 à 20 h 24
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How does trading Larkin to NJD make any sense when they already have Hughes and Hischier as their 1C and 2C you going to pay Larkin 8 x $9,500,000 to be their 3C i don't think so.


Very good question. Its makes little sense.

Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
laugh Is this a freaking joke, Right now he's a heck of a lot better than Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier which neither can even stay healthy. Larkins best season 73 points neither Hughes or Hischier have come close yet.


Wait...didn't you just say that Larkin would be 3C behind Hughes and Hischier?
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