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2021-22 NHL Off-season Discussion Thread - #3

30 juin 2022 à 11 h 7
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i have a hard time seeing how the habs get another top 10. even if teams are interested in anderson, fiala only got #19 + b prospect, so i don't think anderson gets them there. guhle is an option but i think that's a bad move for montreal. dvorak doesn't have the value either. maybe petry can get dallas at #18 but that's a tough climb into the top 10.
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 7
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Not at all. I can hate certain teams and be realistic about certain players value. I’d say it’s a lot worse to think your own team can give another team scraps for a top 5 pick


Thinking the Habs would trade Caufield for pick #7 makes it pretty clear that your hatred for the team is overtaking your objectivity on the matter. A top D prospect in Guhle + Dvorak + Ylonen + 26 + 33 definitely gets the team with picks #9 or #10 at least thinking.
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 7
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Quoting: Db1899
Not at all. I can hate certain teams and be realistic about certain players value. I’d say it’s a lot worse to think your own team can give another team scraps for a top 5 pick


a scrap would be someone like michael pezzetta. someone whos not worth anything more than a 7th, and i'd say none of dvorak, anderson, or petry fall into that category
30 juin 2022 à 11 h 11
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Thinking the Habs would trade Caufield for pick #7 makes it pretty clear that your hatred for the team is overtaking your objectivity on the matter. A top D prospect in Guhle + Dvorak + Ylonen + 26 + 33 definitely gets the team with picks #9 or #10 at least thinking.


i think yzerman would take that package. that said i think it's a bad deal for the habs.
30 juin 2022 à 11 h 13
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
i have a hard time seeing how the habs get another top 10. even if teams are interested in anderson, fiala only got #19 + b prospect, so i don't think anderson gets them there. guhle is an option but i think that's a bad move for montreal. dvorak doesn't have the value either. maybe petry can get dallas at #18 but that's a tough climb into the top 10.


I’d agree with you there, no idea how we’d make it work since we’re obviously not moving Suzuki or Caufield but it’s an interesting thought exercise, we know GM’s value Petry + Anderson even if most of us (including me) are more relaxed on their value. I think we’d be likely to take a cap dump back to make it work salary wise too
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 14
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I’d agree with you there, no idea how we’d make it work since we’re obviously not moving Suzuki or Caufield but it’s an interesting thought exercise, we know GM’s value Petry + Anderson even if most of us (including me) are more relaxed on their value. I think we’d be likely to take a cap dump back to make it work salary wise too


boy does san jose have a deal for you. how do you feel about vlasic? lol
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 14
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
i think yzerman would take that package. that said i think it's a bad deal for the habs.


It was just to prove my point that the Habs do have pieces to trade into the top 10 without trading Caufield at a loss. On the other hand, I don't think the management is looking at the team's track record of trading top D prospects (McDonagh, Sergachev) and is slightly interested in trading Guhle.
30 juin 2022 à 11 h 15
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Thinking the Habs would trade Caufield for pick #7 makes it pretty clear that your hatred for the team is overtaking your objectivity on the matter. A top D prospect in Guhle + Dvorak + Ylonen + 26 + 33 definitely gets the team with picks #9 or #10 at least thinking.


I never said it's going to happen, but it's a lot more realistic than what you proposed. Buffalo and Anaheim wouldn't make that trade anyways. Same with Detroit. When proposing trades its probably a good idea to take other teams needs into account , not just your own.
30 juin 2022 à 11 h 20
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I never said it's going to happen, but it's a lot more realistic than what you proposed. Buffalo and Anaheim wouldn't make that trade anyways. Same with Detroit. When proposing trades its probably a good idea to take other teams needs into account , not just your own.


Well take the Habs into account when you propose Caufield for #7.
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 25
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NHL RUMORS

Kris Letang wants a 5 year contract worth over 8M AAV this offseason. Many close to the Penguins organization believe that Penguins are unlikely to keep Malkin. - Josh Yohe (Penguins beat writer)
Sidney Crosby is the only "untouchable on the Penguins - Dan Kingerski (Penguins writer)
It seems like Brock Boeser will either sign his one year QO or be traded - Irfaan Gaffer (Vancouver writer for SportsNet)
Oilers are amount nearly 10 teams expected to inquire on Ville Husso - Pierre LeBrun
Both Jesse Puljujarvi and Oilers are wlecoming a change in scenery - Tom Gazzola (TSN)
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 26
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Well take the Habs into account when you propose Caufield for #7.


my point is that if the Habs want to trade into the top 5-7 , that's what it would take. It's more realistic than trading quantity for quality. If I'm wrong, ill eat my words. But I'm very confident Habs won't get into the top 10 with a quantity for quality trade.
30 juin 2022 à 11 h 27
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NHL RUMORS

Kris Letang wants a 5 year contract worth over 8M AAV this offseason. Many close to the Penguins organization believe that Penguins are unlikely to keep Malkin. - Josh Yohe (Penguins beat writer)
Sidney Crosby is the only "untouchable on the Penguins - Dan Kingerski (Penguins writer)
It seems like Brock Boeser will either sign his one year QO or be traded - Irfaan Gaffer (Vancouver writer for SportsNet)
Oilers are amount nearly 10 teams expected to inquire on Ville Husso - Pierre LeBrun
Both Jesse Puljujarvi and Oilers are wlecoming a change in scenery - Tom Gazzola (TSN)


Cleary Boeser will be traded. He has a lot of leverage right now.
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 27
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NHL RUMORS

Kris Letang wants a 5 year contract worth over 8M AAV this offseason. Many close to the Penguins organization believe that Penguins are unlikely to keep Malkin. - Josh Yohe (Penguins beat writer)
Sidney Crosby is the only "untouchable on the Penguins - Dan Kingerski (Penguins writer)
It seems like Brock Boeser will either sign his one year QO or be traded - Irfaan Gaffer (Vancouver writer for SportsNet)
Oilers are amount nearly 10 teams expected to inquire on Ville Husso - Pierre LeBrun
Both Jesse Puljujarvi and Oilers are wlecoming a change in scenery - Tom Gazzola (TSN)


I wonder what team is willing to give Letang 5 years.

Any team that gets Malkin gets so much better though. Still such an underrated player.
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30 juin 2022 à 11 h 49
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Props to Mete for speaking up. 🤛

Hope the other players not involved do the same
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30 juin 2022 à 13 h 5
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Well, considering Weekes' penchant for being at the most random spots, i think he'd be at like SeaWorld in front of the shark tank if he were to announce this news.
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30 juin 2022 à 13 h 11
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Well, considering Weekes' penchant for being at the most random spots, i think he'd be at like SeaWorld in front of the shark tank if he were to announce this news.


Per Sheng Peng/ Elliotte

"Elliotte Friedman dropped some probable names on “The Jeff Marek Show” this morning.

“San Jose is in its final group,” the hockey insider confirmed. “I think one of them is probably Ray Whitney. I think one of them is probably Mike Grier. I think there’s someone else, but I’m not 100 percent sure who that is at this time.”

Of the previously reported candidates, I don’t think it’s Kevin Weekes or Allain Roy."
30 juin 2022 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
lol dreger thinks campbell is going to get $6m. i pity the team that does that.


I mean if a team like NJ or Buffalo want to woe him over they kind of have to overpay him

So while his real value is 5 I would not be surprised if someone offers him 6.25mill x 4 years
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30 juin 2022 à 13 h 15
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I mean if a team like NJ or Buffalo want to woe him over they kind of have to overpay him

So while his real value is 5 I would not be surprised if someone offers him 6.25mill x 4 years


i feel like both of those teams are turning a corner. but i get what you're saying. maybe a team like arizona or chicago
30 juin 2022 à 13 h 17
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i feel like both of those teams are turning a corner. but i get what you're saying. maybe a team like arizona or chicago


Chicago is going full on rebuild I dont see them investing in a goalie. I see them maybe taking on guys like Mrazek and Khudobin and let Commesso develop

And Arizona is just so unattractive and I just cant see them going to him and saying heres 7mill come over. As they probably are just gonna take on **** deals and LTIR contracts to reach the floor

I feel of all teams NJ probs will be the one as apparently they might even trade for his rights
30 juin 2022 à 13 h 20
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Figured as 4-5mill is just not something we want to invest in

If he was willing to take 3mill then sure we could keep him but yeah not worth to spend 4.25mill on him just yet

Anyways we want your first born child wink
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30 juin 2022 à 13 h 21
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I find it interesting what Marek and Elliotte discussed (albeit short and extrapolating from the convo);

The goalie market is going to be HOT this offseason and super busy. Whether its rebuilders needing help (New Jersey) or contenders breaking a sweat (Toronto).

They discussed SJ is going to definetly make a move but what the move is, is still uncertain. Said move being Hill or Reimer.
Reimer being on the end of larger more moving pieces and Hill being a gamble.

SJ could even announce their new GM tomorrow (FOR GODS SAKES THEY BETTER) - during the predraft presser.
30 juin 2022 à 14 h 39
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30 juin 2022 à 14 h 42
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they truly want to keep Palat.

Whats Tampa thinking here?

Hedman - Whoever/ Foote?
Sergachev - Cernak
Whoever - Foote?

a lot of questions on that backend.

I think they gotta move Killorn too.
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30 juin 2022 à 14 h 49
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they truly want to keep Palat.

Whats Tampa thinking here?

Hedman - Whoever/ Foote?
Sergachev - Cernak
Whoever - Foote?

a lot of questions on that backend.

I think they gotta move Killorn too.


McDonagh to MTL for first overall, since he's physical and GM's love that

Edit: Rude of you to forget about Bogo
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