I will always support more Bjorks to Columbus.

That Fiala trade is... oof. Scrap the whole return. Start with Buffalo's 1st (9th overall) and add from there.

100%.

We’ll see what happens, but idk that u guys are gonna get a top10 pick for Fiala

There a few things here that i don’t think you’re right about,
but this ACGM is better than most ones i see done by Sabres fans
Nice job

Buff isn't getting UPL for 3 years that cheap.

Minnesota declines

If they don't, then the prospect better be damn well worth it.

I would actually bring in two vet goalies- one guy to be the actual starter, and a guy who has been uneven that needs a change of scenery. Upl can compete for a spot, having two nice goalie prospects guarantees you nothing. From what I have seen, at least recently, the Sabres have too often had bad goaltending, obviously great would be nice, but average gets the job done for now. Consistency in goal would help out immensely.

Idk what u guys are expecting
But Fiala has only had 1 year of ppg production
And whatever team acquires him is still risking that he plays out this year & becomes a UFA
It would be surprising if u got the kind of return it seems most Minny fans are expecting

I'll be completely honest I have no idea about his value I just saw a contract like that flying around on here.

We expect fair value for a point per game player. You can say there's risk for a team acquiring Fiala, but there isn't risk around Minnesota getting a draft pick or prospect? There is a much higher chance that a pick or prospect will flop than Fiala.

That’s the risk you guys have to take bc of the Cap situation you’re in
No other team needs to risk trading for him
It likely hurts the return

And like i said, with only ONE season of ppg play, along with the risk that he could walk in a year, it’s very unlikely u get the “ppg player return” you’re hoping for

Olofsson will be too expensive for MN, he also doesn't fit well with the way MN plays. He's a negative in this trade.
Rosen (I didn't like the pick last year) wasn't much of note in the SHL this year. I think he's a very rough prospect. Swapping him for VGK's 1st would be more interesting to MN.

If I'm BUF I'm waiting until the VGK 1st until I make an offer for Fiala. If he's still in MN at 9oa then I think he'll be there at 16oa.

Whelp, then those teams don't have what it takes to acquire Fiala then. Minnesota could trade Dumba or Zuccarello and re-sign Fiala. This idea that Minnesota is forced into a lesser return is nonsensical.

Thinking you’ll get Holtz + the #2 pick is what’s nonsensical
U guys won’t even get a top10 pick for Fiala

Nobody said Holtz+#2, but thanks for the straw man.

I’d bet we will. Specifically Ottawa’s pick.

I didn’t say that you said that
I have been seeing it on here from your fellow fans though

Neither of us know, so i guess we’ll see

You are the only one I've seen say Holtz+#2. I've seen Holtz + 2nd round pick. Not 2nd overall pick + Holtz

So in his eigtht NHL season at the age of 26 Fiala has a remarkable ppg season.
I agree, MN should be paid his value.
Including this remarkable season over his career Kevin is averaging 0.675 pts/gm, Olofsson who apparently has a negative value is averaging 0.676 pts/gm.
Well Wild fans you have me on the goals per games and Kevin is dramatically outscoring Victor by 0.300 v 0.293.
You all make me so happy when you reject this trade, as I do not want to trade Victor, we can circle back on this but at the end of next season let's see who has more goals, Kevin or Victor.
You do not know that Victor played most of the season with an injured wrist dramatically reducing his effectiveness.
After Olofsson's wrist healed, over his final 34 games he had 15 goals, 13 assists, 28 pts and was +1, I expect that production for the entire season 2022-23.


@keckles I agree the Sabres will remain conservation.
Getting Bishop's contract to reach the floor IMO was a white flag of surrender that his season will be another year to rebuild.
If the Sabres sign Malcolm, I could see his brother PK joining the team as well.
Filling in at least one RHD spot without giving up any assets.

Olofsson has negative value because MN can't afford him. plain and simple. It's not about the player it's about the cap. $7.5m in cap space and MN need a goalie (UFA), 2-4 FWDs (depending if they want any in the pressbox), and Middleton. $2m is about the max they can spend on any new FWD.

Olofsson will probably get $4m-$5m a year (fair market for a 40p-50p, middle-6, o-zone winger). MN would be trading Dumba or making a couple of nickel and dime moves to get that extra cap space for Olofsson. If they are going to trade Dumba then they would make those same nickel and dime moves and just keep Fiala.

1. Fiala hasn't even turned 26 yet.

2. Over the last three seasons:
Fiala .913 ppg
Olofsson .676 ppg

Their per 82 game pace:
Fiala 32g 43a 75pts
Olofsson 24g 32a 56pts

3. Minnesota does NOT want Olofsson. So his value is negative to the Wild. They don't have a spot for Olofsson with Rossi coming up.

4. LOL at you pointing to the 28 points in 34 games as if it's some indicator of how close they are... The second Fiala got a competent linemate (Boldy) he put up 51GP 26g 38a 64pts (103 points per 82 game pace) to end the season. You'll have to excuse me if I don't think 28 points in 34 games is that great in comparison...

5.The fact you think Fiala and Olofsson are remotely close is extremely amusing. There is a significant difference in the players.

I guess it is really hard for myopic, narrow minded home town fans to understand a different POV (Just to be clear so you do not mis understand that was an insult).
Never ever did I say Olofsson was Fiala's equal, I said he does not have a negative value which is the only reason I compared the two.
I even agreed with you, "I agree, MN should be paid his value." but I am sure you overlooked it and decided to read what you wanted and pretend that I said it should be a one for one trade.
It is amusing that anyone would waste time disputing what was not said.
Second if you can maintain Fiala should be paid based on a career year (How many of the Wild also had career years? Kaprizov, Zuccarello, Hartman, Eriksson Ek, Gaudreau, Foligno a rising tide raises all ships.) I can also posit Olofsson will perform more akin to his healthy games than his injured games.
Finally I said "we can circle back on this but at the end of next season let's see who has more goals, Kevin or Victor." because I think Olofsson's will produce commensurate over 82 games as he did to close out the season.
But goals alone do not tell the whole story.
I also said "You all make me so happy when you reject this trade, as I do not want to trade Victor"
Finally, do you think MINN scoring a goal a game more than Buffalo had an influence upon Kevin's breakout year.
If Buffalo reaches four goals a game, and MINN drops to three a game, we can pick up this conversation.

In conclusion, I never said they were equal, I maintained Olofsson had good trade value, I said Minn should be compensated fairly, I never discussed the details of the trade, nor disputed what you thought was a fair return, I said I do not want to trade Victor and I gave my reasons why.

I know it's hard to gauge since you are a myopic, narrow minded home town fan who can't understand a different POV so let me spell it out for you:

1. Minnesota doesn't want Olofsson.
2. We are not going to give you value for something we do not want.
3. Olofsson has negative value to *Minnesota* given his contract status and Minnesota's cap situation.
4. Fiala's spot will be taken by Rossi. We do not need an NHL player back.

Feel free to disprove any of the above four points.

The Minnesota scoring four goals a game vs Buffalo scoring three a game is such a brain dead argument. You realize Fiala is a HUGE reason for that disparity, right?

Fiala's "breakout" year was really just him finally having a quality line mate to work with. Not Marcus Johansson, Nick Bonino, Victor Rask, Zach Parise, etc. Anybody who has paid any sort of attention knows that Fiala has gotten the **** end of the stick when it comes to line mates and he was still a 65+ point type player prior to this year. He finally got a decent line mate and preceded to score at a 100+ point pace.

Well my friend keckles it appears that you over paid for Fiala which every Wild fan rejected (@Digitalbooya06 @Wildnochance @IcemanJoe).
Brock Faber and LAK - 19th OA is significantly less than Wild fans thought he was worth.
We will see, a late first in a soft draft and a "B" prospect (fourth best defenseman at U of MN) would be a disappointing return for Olofsson IMO.
Olofsson, Rosén, and 2023 2nd round pick (VGK) is significantly more than Faber and 19th OA.