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Créé par: Spaceman
Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2022
Publié: 14 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Move enables Carolina to resign Niederreiter and Trocheck while gaining a 30 goal scoring winger. Move gives Detroit a young 2nd line center with proven chemistry with Zadina, a solid prospect and a late 1st round pick.
Transactions
DET
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Pick is top 10 protected. Transfers to 2024 if so.
CAR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler (2 375 000 $ retained)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1582 500 000 $42 653 889 $0 $3 350 000 $39 846 111 $
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2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, C
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750 000 $750 000 $
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1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 7
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Carolina would probably not pay that for Bertuzzi

In recent years Carolina hasn't gone for rentals much and if they do its not at a high cost

Can't see this happening, especially for that much (Carolina also doesn't need retention)
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 9
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I’ve been trying my crack at a bert vs Necas+ trade and people’s valuations are all over the place.

Wings fans expect at least Necas and a first, esp with retention, canes fans say he’s not worth Necas + a second to them.

Despite the value of a 30 goal guy at 2m, I think the trade here is probably overvaluing bert and would remove drury.
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 13
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Canes view Drury as future Jordan Staal replacement. Necas + for any asset not under contract for longer than this season will not happen. Oh, and a first?

Canes manage assets too closely to give this much for a guy who likely walks after a year.
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 37
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when did Tyler Bertuzzi become Nathan MacKinnon?
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Moosetache
when did Tyler Bertuzzi become Nathan MacKinnon?


For the record. Nathan Mackinnon would get a lot more than Necas, Drury and a late first. Not a very smart comparison.
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14 juin 2022 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Mystaes
I’ve been trying my crack at a bert vs Necas+ trade and people’s valuations are all over the place.

Wings fans expect at least Necas and a first, esp with retention, canes fans say he’s not worth Necas + a second to them.

Despite the value of a 30 goal guy at 2m, I think the trade here is probably overvaluing bert and would remove drury.


This is fair. The asking price is high but the offer is a 30 goal grinding winger for 2.3m which would help out Carolina significantly and is the main draw here. Without retention Bertuzzi isn't worth this much and I don't think Carolina would make the deal anyway. Carolina's 1st isn't as valuable as Canes fans think. People see the word 1st and think they're trading away the next potential superstar. It's basically like an early 2nd in terms of prospect talent. There's a big gap in quality from a top 10 pick and a 24-32 pick. I'd be willing to replace Drury with somebody or something else. Rees or another pick...3rd? Put the asking price high and settle somewhere in the middle. As for Detroit, I'd be really intrigued to have Zadina, Necas and Vrana on a line together. The Czech line could be very good together.
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 42
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I love Bert too but I think people have him overvalued a bit. He's a rental plus the whole vax thing, back issues and hes been a pain in the ass to extend every time. I'd love a necas For Bert deal but I don't think they're value is much different. Bert and a 3rd for Necas and a 2nd might be my guess
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 44
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I love Bert too but I think people have him overvalued a bit. He's a rental plus the whole vax thing, back issues and hes been a pain in the ass to extend every time. I'd love a necas For Bert deal but I don't think they're value is much different. Bert and a 3rd for Necas and a 2nd might be my guess


Vax thing is done. Canada is lifting restrictions for all unvaxxed as we speak.
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 46
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Vax thing is done. Canada is lifting restrictions for all unvaxxed as we speak.


Seriously, hadn't heard that yet, well then his value goes up for sure. I
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 49
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Ridiculous overpay
14 juin 2022 à 14 h 50
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Ridiculous overpay


nah
14 juin 2022 à 15 h 2
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Seriously, hadn't heard that yet, well then his value goes up for sure. I


I just looked into it and Bertuzzi still must quarantine 14 days from entering CAN. The biggest change is that someone can travel domestically within CAN without needing to quarantine or be vaccinated from place to place.
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14 juin 2022 à 15 h 13
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nah


Yah.

You wouldn’t get Necas alone 1yr of Bertuzzi, much less Drury + a 1st. Time to go back to lala land.
14 juin 2022 à 15 h 21
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Detroit says hell yes.

Carolina says hell no.
14 juin 2022 à 17 h 38
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Quoting: Jfstompers
I love Bert too but I think people have him overvalued a bit. He's a rental plus the whole vax thing, back issues and hes been a pain in the ass to extend every time. I'd love a necas For Bert deal but I don't think they're value is much different. Bert and a 3rd for Necas and a 2nd might be my guess

I think you undervalue him. But maybe I'm wrong because Yzerman would never be able to trade a power forward for a comparable player plus a 1st and a 2nd...
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