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2022-2023 Ducks

Créé par: Capalot_Hawk_19
Équipe: 2022-23 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 13 juin 2022
Publié: 13 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 400 000 $
21 700 000 $
33 450 000 $
21 000 000 $
2975 000 $
1950 000 $
1950 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
11 000 000 $
1925 000 $
1850 000 $
1850 000 $
1800 000 $
44 750 000 $
34 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
46 400 000 $
32 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
ANA
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Holl, Justin
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Leafs get a proven goalie who has had to play for a bad ducks team and still puts up great numbers, and get him at just 3.4 mil.
TOR
  1. Gibson, John (3 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
The ducks get 2 prospects and 2 picks for a goalie who doesn't fit their timeline and give the young guy Dostal a chance.
2.
ANA
  1. Entwistle, Mackenzie
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
The Blackhawks take a chance on a young guy who hasnt played up to expectations and hope to develop him.
CHI
  1. Comtois, Maxime
Détails additionnels:
The Ducks give up on Comtois as he doesn't really fit in their rotation anymore, they get a solid replacement, a guy who can hit well, they also get 2 decent draft picks.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2022
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2023
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Logo de MIN
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $63 839 584 $0 $4 200 000 $18 660 416 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 3
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 456 250 $1 456 250 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
822 500 $822 500 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
975 000 $975 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 295 000 $1 295 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1

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13 juin 2022 à 2 h 11
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No reason Gibson would fetch a price like this. He's had 3 bad seasons in a row. No one has fetched a premium price after playing like he has for 3 straight seasons.
13 juin 2022 à 2 h 22
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don't really think it's too much. Gibson maybe hasn't been "elite", but he has had to play in front of a bad team offensively and defensively and when he had a good team in front of him, he has been amazing. Amirov is a question mark rn, Robertson won't have a place in Toronto atm, and they want to win now, and the first will be in the late 20s, really only big piece here is Robertson, and you get Gibson at only 3 mil.
13 juin 2022 à 2 h 25
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Modifié 13 juin 2022 à 2 h 53
Quoting: Capalot_Hawk_19
don't really think it's too much. Gibson maybe hasn't been "elite", but he has had to play in front of a bad team offensively and defensively and when he had a good team in front of him, he has been amazing. Amirov is a question mark rn, Robertson won't have a place in Toronto atm, and they want to win now, and the first will be in the late 20s, really only big piece here is Robertson, and you get Gibson at only 3 mil.


Gibson hasn't even been the best goalie on those Ducks teams. It's not that the team in front is only playing bad when GIbson is there, it's that Gibson hasn't been playing well behind that bad team. He was ranked 24th amongst teams starters going into this season and 4 of the people above him had much better seasons, he will be further down that list going into next year. The Ducks are in the same situation as Florida is with Bobrovsky. There are other goalies who should be their starter but they are paying 1 so much they can't justify him not being it. There's just no reason for him to have this kind of value, he's not this goalie anymore.

I'll spell it out like this. Stolarz started 23 games for the Ducks last season. They were 12-8-3 with him in net. A 0.587 point %. Gibson started 56. The team went 18-26-11. A 0.420 points %. The team actively does better, much better, when Gibson isn't in net. It's not that the team in front of Gibson is bad, it's Gibson contributing to how bad the team is. We could go into basic stats, fancy stats, etc. It doesn't matter where you go, the result is the same.

We can have a discussion that Stolarz is just a better goalie than Gibson I guess but at that point you've pretty much already surrendered on whether Gibson is worth this much or not.
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13 juin 2022 à 5 h 46
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I did a post a few weeks ago asking what the pric3 for Gibson would be. The answer was really varied because 1. Goalies don't get traded much. 2. People either think he is great or that he sucks.

The retention is huge for the leafs so it definitely drives the price up. I think the 4th comes out and the ducks add a pick going back
13 juin 2022 à 8 h 47
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Anaheim does do either deal. Toronto doesn’t even cover all the retention you have here for 5 years
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13 juin 2022 à 10 h 14
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I did a post a few weeks ago asking what the pric3 for Gibson would be. The answer was really varied because 1. Goalies don't get traded much. 2. People either think he is great or that he sucks.

The retention is huge for the leafs so it definitely drives the price up. I think the 4th comes out and the ducks add a pick going back


If the $15 million retention is valuable to Toronto, your last sentence is completely backwards.
13 juin 2022 à 19 h 15
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If the $15 million retention is valuable to Toronto, your last sentence is completely backwards.


The value is too high even with the retention. I was offering a counter perposal
13 juin 2022 à 19 h 22
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The value is too high even with the retention. I was offering a counter perposal


"The retention is huge for the Leafs" means Toronto is getting the value. But you're taking the fourth away from Anaheim and having Anaheim give a pick back, which is exactly the opposite of what should happen if Toronto is getting more value from the retention than is included in the original proposal.

For your information, retention totaling $15 million is worth at least a first- and a second-round pick.
14 juin 2022 à 6 h 26
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"The retention is huge for the Leafs" means Toronto is getting the value. But you're taking the fourth away from Anaheim and having Anaheim give a pick back, which is exactly the opposite of what should happen if Toronto is getting more value from the retention than is included in the original proposal.

For your information, retention totaling $15 million is worth at least a first- and a second-round pick.


You don't understand what I'm trying to say.

Trading
Amirov
Robertson
Holl
1st round pick

Just to clarify I do't think the value is there so I say no deal. Retaining his contract helps but the total cost of the deal doesn't make sense.

It's hard to predict goalie trades because they are rare and usually pretty unique.
 
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