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Créé par: Lebronsdad
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2022
Publié: 12 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Honestly everyones knows nurse aint worth 9mill I rather have that money spread out in our forwards through free agency because depth is needed more than anything. Best defence is offence.
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Second round pick upgrades to a First round pick if EDM makes Stanley cup finals in 2024.
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12 juin 2022 à 2 h 59
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lol
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12 juin 2022 à 3 h 4
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LMAO that doesn't even get you an autographed picture of Demko
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12 juin 2022 à 3 h 6
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I mean no....
1. Nurse and Theodore are basically the same not worth it if you're the oilers.
2. Dadonov is not worth a 1st and a 2nd from a bad team
3. Derek Ryan is miles ahead of Austin Watson
4. Vancouver isn't giving up their best goalie since Luongo for basically a first.
5. You are really giving Cogliano 3 YEARS !!! **** you guys think Ryan and Puljujarvi can't score just wait till you see Cogliano.
12 juin 2022 à 3 h 11
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Take out Demko and it seems fair.

I mean I would say Vancouver rejects and spits some body of water in your face but no river, lake, waterfall, or ocean on earth is big enough to describe the amount of water that needs to be spat in your face after proposing such a ridiculous trade
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12 juin 2022 à 3 h 16
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Quoting: majormoose007
LMAO that doesn't even get you an autographed picture of Demko


lmfao
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12 juin 2022 à 3 h 17
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O_O
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12 juin 2022 à 3 h 17
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Theodore>>>>>Nurse.
Trades might need some reconsideration
12 juin 2022 à 3 h 18
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He’s not as trash as these trade offers
12 juin 2022 à 3 h 39
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Two cap dumps will take a first for a team to swallow. How what are you paying for Demko?
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12 juin 2022 à 4 h 0
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Quoting: yoseikanben
I mean no....
1. Nurse and Theodore are basically the same not worth it if you're the oilers.
2. Dadonov is not worth a 1st and a 2nd from a bad team
3. Derek Ryan is miles ahead of Austin Watson
4. Vancouver isn't giving up their best goalie since Luongo for basically a first.
5. You are really giving Cogliano 3 YEARS !!! **** you guys think Ryan and Puljujarvi can't score just wait till you see Cogliano.


theodore is a much better. theodore was in the top 99% for WAR where as nurse was in the bottom 25%. the only thing nurse has on theodore is he is more physical(but he takes way way more penalties) and he has a harder shot(but over last 3 years theodore still has 5 more goals then him).
look up JFRESH player cards and you will see their is a massive difference between the too. so ya it is worth it for edmonton to do because they save nearly 4 mill if they can move dadonov and they get a way better dman, i highly doubt vegas even considers this deal
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12 juin 2022 à 4 h 27
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theodore is a much better. theodore was in the top 99% for WAR where as nurse was in the bottom 25%. the only thing nurse has on theodore is he is more physical(but he takes way way more penalties) and he has a harder shot(but over last 3 years theodore still has 5 more goals then him).
look up JFRESH player cards and you will see their is a massive difference between the too. so ya it is worth it for edmonton to do because they save nearly 4 mill if they can move dadonov and they get a way better dman, i highly doubt vegas even considers this deal


So I actually have acess to JFresh's player card since I'm a donor on patreon to him, so I know that what you are saying is BS. For the last three years Thedore is in the 84th percentile for WAR and this year has actually been is worse year being in the 61th in WAR due to a bit of a down year in offensive play driving, dropping to 99% in EV OFF to 91% in EV OFF. Nurse while it is true that he was 21th in WAR last year, he was actually in the 86th percentile this year in WAR% and that due to a large jump in his EV DEF Going from the 3rd percentile which is trash to a really respectable 79th this year in EV DEF.

My original statement was referencing to the fact that they are both Offensive defenceman who usually really struggles on defence. While it is true that Thedore is better offensively and is a god on the PP Nurse had an intriguing jump in defence that if he can keep up might turn him into a solid top pair option down the road for the Oilers like he was this season for them.
12 juin 2022 à 4 h 29
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Quoting: yoseikanben
So I actually have acess to JFresh's player card since I'm a donor on patreon to him, so I know that what you are saying is BS. For the last three years Thedore is in the 84th percentile for WAR and this year has actually been is worse year being in the 61th in WAR due to a bit of a down year in offensive play driving, dropping to 99% in EV OFF to 91% in EV OFF. Nurse while it is true that he was 21th in WAR last year, he was actually in the 86th percentile this year in WAR% and that due to a large jump in his EV DEF Going from the 3rd percentile which is trash to a really respectable 79th this year in EV DEF.

My original statement was referencing to the fact that they are both Offensive defenceman who usually really struggles on defence. While it is true that Thedore is better offensively and is a god on the PP Nurse had an intriguing jump in defence that if he can keep up might turn him into a solid top pair option down the road for the Oilers like he was this season for them.


Nurse is not an offensive defenceman, if he was we would have him on the power play instead of Bouchard or barrie all the time, he's never on the PP.
12 juin 2022 à 4 h 40
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Quoting: Lebronsdad
Nurse is not an offensive defenceman, if he was we would have him on the power play instead of Bouchard or barrie all the time, he's never on the PP.


He is an OFD, if he is not on the PP then it's not my fault if your GM is making a mistake, but it could be because Bouchard is slightly better offensively and Barrie has no value whatsoever if he isn't on the powerplay and most Power Play scheme in the NHL only includes 1 Defenceman nowadays.
12 juin 2022 à 6 h 9
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No Draisaitl no Demko
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12 juin 2022 à 7 h 13
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Theodore > Nurse. None of these trades are even remotely close.
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12 juin 2022 à 7 h 39
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So you say nurse is trash and the proceed to trade for the equivalent of Theodore, 1st and a 2nd?!?! What planet are you from?

Oilers are brutal and have major issues despite their run this year. Major issues in goal, defense and bottom 6
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12 juin 2022 à 8 h 18
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Watson is loved by the organization and team. Among all NHL forwards he is 15th in the league for hits and 10th for blocked shots.
Right or wrong, Ottawa wouldn't make this deal.
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12 juin 2022 à 8 h 56
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What is this Dadonov trade? ok I have to leave this ACGM, nothing makes much sense

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Derek Ryan is miles ahead of Austin Watson.


Both have 1 year left at about the same AAV. Sens don't make that trade. They also don't really like smaller guys. Brannstrom will probably be the only guy below 6'0

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Nurse and Theodore are basically the same not worth it if you're the oilers.


I really hate when fans call NHL players trash. Nurse has a really bad contract but he's not trash. He was playing injured.

That being said, Shea Theodore is miles better. No way Vegas make this deal
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12 juin 2022 à 12 h 6
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12 juin 2022 à 12 h 7
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Just freeing up cap space with dadonov everyone does good with mcdavid like how Kane did, everyone has career years with mcdavid, so why not get the same production for much less and not have to worry about resigning him. Austin Watson maybe a 5th round pick or 4th round pick with Ryan would do the trick? yea that's kinda what I mean his contract is really bad if you read the team explanation.
12 juin 2022 à 12 h 45
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Vegas laughs and sends you an evander kane casino bill instead
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12 juin 2022 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: yoseikanben
So I actually have acess to JFresh's player card since I'm a donor on patreon to him, so I know that what you are saying is BS. For the last three years Thedore is in the 84th percentile for WAR and this year has actually been is worse year being in the 61th in WAR due to a bit of a down year in offensive play driving, dropping to 99% in EV OFF to 91% in EV OFF. Nurse while it is true that he was 21th in WAR last year, he was actually in the 86th percentile this year in WAR% and that due to a large jump in his EV DEF Going from the 3rd percentile which is trash to a really respectable 79th this year in EV DEF.

My original statement was referencing to the fact that they are both Offensive defenceman who usually really struggles on defence. While it is true that Thedore is better offensively and is a god on the PP Nurse had an intriguing jump in defence that if he can keep up might turn him into a solid top pair option down the road for the Oilers like he was this season for them.


i was looking at both their 3 year weighted data not just one season. hence the reason i brought up over the last 3 seasons theodore had more goals. Basing a player off one season is ridiculous because anyone can just explode one season then come back to earth and average out for the rest of their career
12 juin 2022 à 14 h 21
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Very easy no from VAN, they are not moving Demko.
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12 juin 2022 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: theleano1
No Draisaitl no Demko


okay now this is too far lol you already overrate vancouver players by a mile, wanting eichel like return for miller. but come on draisaitl is a top 5 player in the league, demko isn't even a top 5 goalie in the league. Not to mention goalies hold far less value then Centers do. Colorado and edmonton just proved you don't need even a top 10 goalie in the league to make the finals. Colorado has made the finals with riding francouz nearly 50% of playoffs.

and if you want my rankings for goalies here it goes
1. Vasilevsky
2. Shesterkin
3. Saros
4. Markstrom
5. Oettinger
6. Sorokin
7. Husso
8. Hellebuyck
9. Demko

and even then out of all these goalies only the top 2 would i ever consider moving Drai for
12 juin 2022 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: Dekes
okay now this is too far lol you already overrate vancouver players by a mile, wanting eichel like return for miller. but come on draisaitl is a top 5 player in the league, demko isn't even a top 5 goalie in the league. Not to mention goalies hold far less value then Centers do. Colorado and edmonton just proved you don't need even a top 10 goalie in the league to make the finals. Colorado has made the finals with riding francouz nearly 50% of playoffs.

and if you want my rankings for goalies here it goes
1. Vasilevsky
2. Shesterkin
3. Saros
4. Markstrom
5. Oettinger
6. Sorokin
7. Husso
8. Hellebuyck
9. Demko

and even then out of all these goalies only the top 2 would i ever consider moving Drai for


Oettinger is good but not better than Demko. Having Husso that high is laughable. I’d also take Demko over Markstrom and Sorokin, but those two are close. He’s also close with Saros and Hellebuyck imo

Obviously Demko doesn’t return Drai though
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