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Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 juin 2022
Publié: 11 juin 2022
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
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    Sabres could use Holl on their third pairing and hope that Mrazek finds his game back and they could flip him maybe with some retention
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    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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    Trade that I think makes a lot of sense. Muzzin could play with Durzi on LA's second pairing and Roy would help the leafs out on the right seed allowing Sandin to stay on his left side
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    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 32
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    Sorry it's no an improvement for the Kings or Muzzin moving to the Kings. Comrie will get better offers
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    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 33
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    Lol why do kinga make that trade? Roy already plays 2ndnpairing minutes and costs less and is younger....
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    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 37
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    Believe me. Danny Dekeyser is done. He had to endure a lot of back pain just to finish out his contract.
    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 41
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    The Sabres don’t want Mrázek or Holl. They could use a veteran right side defender who is actually good at playing defense, not a liability. And as has been said many times over and apparently needs to continue being said, Mrázek is an over paid sieve. I doubt anyone will be trading for him, and I expect the compensation if they were willing to to be pretty painful for Toronto. I think he gets bought out instead.
    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 41
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    Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
    Believe me. Danny Dekeyser is done. He had to endure a lot of back pain just to finish out his contract.


    ahh that's too bad, loved the way he played
    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 44
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    The Sabres don’t want Mrázek or Holl. They could use a veteran right side defender who is actually good at playing defense, not a liability. And as has been said many times over and apparently needs to continue being said, Mrázek is an over paid sieve. I doubt anyone will be trading for him, and I expect the compensation if they were willing to to be pretty painful for Toronto. I think he gets bought out instead.


    Flip Holl at the deadline then with 50% retention to be some playoff teams 7th dman. And the hole Mrazek is awful is such a recesncy biased statement, he was a 1A 1B for years and he had one bad year in the Toronto spotlight and now he's done. Nobody thought it was an overpayment for him when the leafs signed him... not one person... Sabres could bring him in let him build up his confidence again and then flip him for a 3rd round pick with some retention if things work out. Say they flip Holl for a 5th or 6th now just for having some cap space you have gained a 2nd, 3rd, and 6th round picks for giving up nothing
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    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 47
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    Lol why do kinga make that trade? Roy already plays 2ndnpairing minutes and costs less and is younger....


    Because Durzi is no longer a third pairing defenseman plus they have Walker who they are paying 2.8 million, plus Clarke developing on the right side. My thought is they should find someone to compliment Durzi and play on the left side, then you could run Anderson - Doughty, Muzzin - Durzi, Matta - Walker/Spence
    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 56
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    Flip Holl at the deadline then with 50% retention to be some playoff teams 7th dman. And the hole Mrazek is awful is such a recesncy biased statement, he was a 1A 1B for years and he had one bad year in the Toronto spotlight and now he's done. Nobody thought it was an overpayment for him when the leafs signed him... not one person... Sabres could bring him in let him build up his confidence again and then flip him for a 3rd round pick with some retention if things work out. Say they flip Holl for a 5th or 6th now just for having some cap space you have gained a 2nd, 3rd, and 6th round picks for giving up nothing

    The Sabres personally set Mrázek on fire every time they played him this year. Why in the hell would they want to add that guy to the organization? Burying him in the AHL certainly won’t make him happy, and you don’t want that guy poisoning the young goaltenders we want playing down there. Coincidence that he was much better in Carolina, just like Andersen this year? Maybe Carolina is just a much better team than Toronto. Our young defense core doesn’t need a goalie that they have to protect, as much as they need a guy they can count on to make a save when they make a mistake. Mrázek isn’t that guy anymore. As for Holl, I don’t think he’s the fit that the team is looking for.
    11 juin 2022 à 9 h 58
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    Because Durzi is no longer a third pairing defenseman plus they have Walker who they are paying 2.8 million, plus Clarke developing on the right side. My thought is they should find someone to compliment Durzi and play on the left side, then you could run Anderson - Doughty, Muzzin - Durzi, Matta - Walker/Spence

    Matt Roy is probably the last guy they would consider trading right now. I’m pretty sure they would sooner give up a guy like Durzi or Walker than Roy because he brings everything to the table that you want, and he has a nice contract right now.
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    11 juin 2022 à 10 h 45
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    Trade that doesn’t make sense at all
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    11 juin 2022 à 10 h 50
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    Roy >>>>>> Muzzin. This ain't Muzzin of 2017.

    Add in a 1st and the Kings still wouldn't do it
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    11 juin 2022 à 11 h 53
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    No team, i repeat, NO TEAM, will have any interest in Mrazek
    U Leafs fans really gotta knock off the “maybe Buffalo think he can regain his form” crap
    We don’t think that
    No one does

    That said, maybe we take this deal & bury him since we need a goalie for our AHL team
    I do agree with you that Holl could be an ok 3rd pair guy
    Him & the 2nd are maybe enough to get us to take Mrazek- maybe
    11 juin 2022 à 11 h 53
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    Matt Roy is probably the last guy they would consider trading right now. I’m pretty sure they would sooner give up a guy like Durzi or Walker than Roy because he brings everything to the table that you want, and he has a nice contract right now.


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    Trade that doesn’t make sense at all


    Quoting: PuckLuck_77
    Roy >>>>>> Muzzin. This ain't Muzzin of 2017.

    Add in a 1st and the Kings still wouldn't do it


    Quoting: PuckLuck_77
    Roy >>>>>> Muzzin. This ain't Muzzin of 2017.

    Add in a 1st and the Kings still wouldn't do it


    and today is the day I found out that the LA kings fans are the new most biased fanbase on capfriendly
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    11 juin 2022 à 11 h 55
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    and today is the day I found out that the LA kings fans are the new most biased fanbase on capfriendly

    Nope. Leaf fans are being unrealistic in trading muzzin back to the kings to get out of a big contract and an aging player with concussion problems
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    11 juin 2022 à 11 h 56
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    The Sabres don’t want Mrázek or Holl. They could use a veteran right side defender who is actually good at playing defense, not a liability. And as has been said many times over and apparently needs to continue being said, Mrázek is an over paid sieve. I doubt anyone will be trading for him, and I expect the compensation if they were willing to to be pretty painful for Toronto. I think he gets bought out instead.


    You’re being a bit too harsh imo
    Holl is decent defensively & would be fine on the 3rd pair
    Mrazek blows, but we have no AHL goaltenders, so we could bury him there. If he doesn’t like it, he can go play in Europe.
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    11 juin 2022 à 12 h 5
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    Modifié 11 juin 2022 à 13 h 51
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    and today is the day I found out that the LA kings fans are the new most biased fanbase on capfriendly


    Not at all

    Habs fans still have that title
    And you Leafs fans aren’t all that far behind there pal
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    11 juin 2022 à 12 h 15
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    {sigh} Yet another Jake-Muzzin-back-to-Los-Angeles fantasy. Have we reached the thousandth-time level yet? We're looking for a top-level young LD with term like Jakob Chychrun, Ivan Provorov or Mikhail Sergachev, not an expensive veteran who has a poor injury history, and we don't need stopgaps because there are several cheap UFAs that won't cost us anything to sign or pay. And the idea that we would trade Matt Roy, who is younger, cheaper by 40%, healthier and faster than Muzzin, in a trade exchanging a #2LD for a #2RD even up is just cuckoo. You could literally add your 2022 first-round pick to that offer and Los Angeles would still say NO.
    11 juin 2022 à 17 h 53
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    Modifié 11 juin 2022 à 17 h 59
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    Flip Holl at the deadline then with 50% retention to be some playoff teams 7th dman. And the hole Mrazek is awful is such a recesncy biased statement, he was a 1A 1B for years and he had one bad year in the Toronto spotlight and now he's done...Say they flip Holl for a 5th or 6th now just for having some cap space you have gained a 2nd, 3rd, and 6th round picks for giving up nothing
    Considering Buffalo only received a seventh for taking on Bishop's cap, why would any Sabre fan expect a second AND Holl for taking on Mrázek.
    First of all you sent me to my dictionary today, the first time ever in cap friendly, "recency" thank you very much.
    Second, expecting a 3rd for Mrázek seems to be a little hyperbolic, far more likely to get a third or more for Holl at the TDL as NHL GM's get crazy when a RHD is available.
    Third, you are correct, Buffalo would be silly to reject this trade.
    With only one signed RHD, who else does Buffalo have in the pipe line after Jokiharju.
    Fourth, Buffalo will not make the playoffs this year, with Mrázek in net they will improve their draft position.
    His SV% of 0.888 was only a shade less (0.009) than Anderson's 0.897.
    Lastly, I do agree with one more of your points, Mike Bales may be able to bring out the best of Mrázek.
    If Dubas offered this to Karmanos, IMO, Jason would accept the deal without hesitation.
    Of course, you need to remember, I often swim against the current.

    EDIT: Let me add, I do not think the Sabres will be making any deals to reach the playoffs this year.
    All Sabre fans should be able to take note Ben Bishop's contract was white flag of surrender that cap space will NOT be used to sign ANY UFA's this year.
    The above mentioned trade is a good deal and offers the Sabres two NHL players filling holes in the line up and second round pick.
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    11 juin 2022 à 18 h 2
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    Lol why do kinga make that trade? Roy already plays 2ndnpairing minutes and costs less and is younger....


    Roy is cheaper and not a walking concussion
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    and today is the day I found out that the LA kings fans are the new most biased fanbase on capfriendly


    No one is overrating Roy, he is what he is, second pair shutdown D man who fits the kings system well. The very reason you trade for him is is the same reason you want him. Kings don’t want an older, more expensive, concussion prone player.
    11 juin 2022 à 18 h 7
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    and today is the day I found out that the LA kings fans are the new most biased fanbase on capfriendly


    2 x 5.6m for a 33yr old who does not contrubute offensively. Plenty of UFA guys who do the same thing that can be had for 1 x 2M. the lesson here is dont since Defense D men to long term expensive deals once they get close to 30. Oilers about the learn that with Nurse. Sharks are paying for that with Vlasic
    11 juin 2022 à 21 h 5
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    Because Durzi is no longer a third pairing defenseman plus they have Walker who they are paying 2.8 million, plus Clarke developing on the right side. My thought is they should find someone to compliment Durzi and play on the left side, then you could run Anderson - Doughty, Muzzin - Durzi, Matta - Walker/Spence


    Lol so Leafs have LHD playing RHD, so there is no way you can have RHD play LHD?
     
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