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Isles Blockbuster

Créé par: MNCountryClub
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2022
Publié: 7 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I’m sure it would be simpler, but just wanted to explore including Kuli and a pick to bolster the return.

3rd line wouldn’t work, but 4th could bring some speed and potentially chip in above expected. Lotta flexibility to shuffle lines here anyhow.

Sell Dumba at the deadline half retained when this team inevitably misses a WC spot.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
2975 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Vet, Backup
11 250 000 $
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MIN
  1. Holmström, Simon
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kulikov, Dmitry
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 699 421 $0 $1 532 500 $800 579 $
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C
UFA - 7
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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DG
UFA - 3
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
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UFA - 1
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
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UFA - 2
Vet, Backup
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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7 juin 2022 à 22 h 46
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Kevin Fiala had 3 assists in 6 playoff games.
7 juin 2022 à 22 h 53
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Kevin Fiala had 3 assists in 6 playoff games.


Thanks for the stat, buddy!
7 juin 2022 à 22 h 54
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Thanks for the stat, buddy!


I’m half kidding lol
7 juin 2022 à 22 h 54
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Thanks for the stat, buddy!


Fiala is worth what Reinheart got.
7 juin 2022 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: Isles5513
Fiala is worth what Reinheart got.


We shall see
7 juin 2022 à 22 h 58
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We shall see


Fair enough. Reinheart has similar production and can play center. Pretty sure he penalty kills too.
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 1
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Fair enough. Reinheart has similar production and can play center. Pretty sure he penalty kills too.


Reinhart had 40 points in 54 games last season. Fiala just put up 85 in 82.

Guess it depends on how you define “similar production.”
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7 juin 2022 à 23 h 2
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Reinhart had 40 points in 54 games last season. Fiala just put up 85 in 82.

Guess it depends on how you define “similar production.”


Shortened season and he was on a terrible team.

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=132239
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 3
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Reinhart had 40 points in 54 games last season. Fiala just put up 85 in 82.

Guess it depends on how you define “similar production.”


Not realty sure how ur ignoring the shortened year or the fact he plays center, but thanks for letting me know.
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 4
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Not realty sure how ur ignoring the shortened year or the fact he plays center, but thanks for letting me know.


Lol so run the 5th grade math and calculate pace.

0.74 ppg vs 1.03 ppg.

I’m not ignoring the shortened season, I just assumed you were capable of making that leap.
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7 juin 2022 à 23 h 5
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Lol so run the 5th grade math and calculate pace.

0.74 ppg vs 1.03 ppg.

I’m not ignoring the shortened season, I just assumed you were capable of making that leap.


I mean the shortened season, quality of line mates and positional value. Also Reinheart is a righty and had similar production this year.
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 11
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I mean the shortened season, quality of line mates and positional value. Also Reinheart is a righty and had similar production this year.


Lollll quality of line mates will never be a valid argument for lowering Fiala’s value. The guy has been stuck with more garbage than anyone else in the league for years. Outside of Boldy for 40 games, he’s had nothing but cones. So try again there. (Fiala paced for >100 points during those 40 games btw).

As for Reinhart producing similar this year, that’s probably the most irrelevant argument I’ve ever heard. If Reinhart were to be dealt this summer, you really think he’d go for the same package? Or do you think maybe, perhaps the 80+ point season would boost his value?
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7 juin 2022 à 23 h 14
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Lollll quality of line mates will never be a valid argument for lowering Fiala’s value. The guy has been stuck with more garbage than anyone else in the league for years. Outside of Boldy for 40 games, he’s had nothing but cones. So try again there. (Fiala paced for >100 points during those 40 games btw).

As for Reinhart producing similar this year, that’s probably the most irrelevant argument I’ve ever heard. If Reinhart were to be dealt this summer, you really think he’d go for the same package? Or do you think maybe, perhaps the 80+ point season would boost his value?


Levi was a big part of that deal. Also Minnesota can’t take back salary which makes this trucker since Fiala is gonna cost a lot to lock up long term.
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 15
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Easy yes for the isles
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 16
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Lollll quality of line mates will never be a valid argument for lowering Fiala’s value. The guy has been stuck with more garbage than anyone else in the league for years. Outside of Boldy for 40 games, he’s had nothing but cones. So try again there. (Fiala paced for >100 points during those 40 games btw).

As for Reinhart producing similar this year, that’s probably the most irrelevant argument I’ve ever heard. If Reinhart were to be dealt this summer, you really think he’d go for the same package? Or do you think maybe, perhaps the 80+ point season would boost his value?


I think his point was that Reinhart was dealt at discount value, and most likely the same fate awaits for Fiala, and Guerin seems perfectly content with it with his recent talks.

Fiala is gone and I'm not surprised at all if the return is surprisingly low (as the trend has been with top-6 forwards dealt as RFAs). I think this trade is an overpayment conpared to what Wild will actually receive, but we'll see about it.
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 19
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Levi was a big part of that deal. Also Minnesota can’t take back salary which makes this trucker since Fiala is gonna cost a lot to lock up long term.


Yeah so goes back to my original point of “we shall see.”

Comps are useful reference points, but markets change, GMs change, every player is different, etc.

I choose not to treat comps as being an end all, be all gospel on what to expect for Player X. Useful sure, but not a defined return that absolutely cannot be deviated from.

I also find “Player X is worth Player Y” to be a remarkably lazy argument.
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7 juin 2022 à 23 h 20
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Yeah so goes back to my original point of “we shall see.”

Comps are useful reference points, but markets change, GMs change, every player is different, etc.

I choose not to treat comps as being an end all, be all gospel on what to expect for Player X. Useful sure, but not a defined return that absolutely cannot be deviated from.

I also find “Player X is worth Player Y” to be a remarkably lazy argument.


I was generalizing. I don’t believe in moving lottery picks tbh
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I think his point was that Reinhart was dealt at discount value, and most likely the same fate awaits for Fiala, and Guerin seems perfectly content with it with his recent talks.

Fiala is gone and I'm not surprised at all if the return is surprisingly low (as the trend has been with top-6 forwards dealt as RFAs). I think this trade is an overpayment conpared to what Wild will actually receive, but we'll see about it.


Yeah im aware of what the arguments are on both sides, it’s been covered 10k times on this site.

You think it’s an overpay, I think it’s in the ballpark, other Isles fan thinks it’s a no brainer they accept. Lol it’s a common pattern.
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 29
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I was generalizing. I don’t believe in moving lottery picks tbh


What lottery pick?
7 juin 2022 à 23 h 30
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Why are people actually trying to argue that Reinhart is comparable to Fiala. Fiala is 5x the player. Stop being silly.
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7 juin 2022 à 23 h 37
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What lottery pick?


13 is in the lottery sorry.
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I’d do that trade as an islanders fan I’m not the biggest Kulikov guy but don’t hate him on the third pairing
8 juin 2022 à 1 h 20
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Quoting: Isles5513
Fair enough. Reinheart has similar production and can play center. Pretty sure he penalty kills too.


Fiala killed penalties this year for a decent chunk of the season. Even had a shorty. That's something Reinhart has never done. Evason said he liked how it kept Fiala engaged and playing the PK actually helped him clean up his offensive game a bit.
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Where do I sign in agreement to this trade on behalf of Lou?
8 juin 2022 à 9 h 25
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I think the Isles would say yes to this.
 
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