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Créé par: Hii
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 2 juin 2022
Publié: 2 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Building on my last offseason conception.



Murray LTIRetires.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
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11 000 000 $
1950 000 $
43 000 000 $
88 000 000 $
53 500 000 $
31 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Kuzmenko, Andrei
1925 000 $
Kemell, Joakim
3925 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Ahcan, Jack1 000 000 $Aucune compensation
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OTT
NJD
  1. White, Colin
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    PIT
    1. Zaitsev, Nikita (2 250 000 $ retained)
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    1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
    2. Bokk, Dominik
    3. Keane, Joey [Droits de RFA]
    Détails additionnels:
    Bear for Brown is almost all the value in the trade but I think that the little bit remaining cause I think Brown under extension is slightly more valuable than Bear I think that Bokk a prospect that has struggled in Carolina and Keane who is not a highly touted prospect will cover the rest of the cost.
    CAR
    1. Brown, Connor
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
    Détails additionnels:
    Brown comes with a 4x4 extension.


    I also think that this is a Rod Brind'amour player to a tee and that he would thrive in Carolina's system and provide so much while costing so little against the cap. He would also improve the 2nd PP and the PK for Carolina.
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    BOS
      The reason why I signed Achan is cause I don't know if Boston qualifies him.

      So this is going as he is a free agent signing.
      5.
      OTT
      1. Fleury, Haydn [Droits de RFA]
      Détails additionnels:
      After a lackluster season Ottawa picks up his leadership and potential for a pretty good future bottom pairing role with Sanderson or Brannstrom.
      SEA
      1. Keane, Joey
      Détails additionnels:
      Ottawa gives Seattle back a young RD with some promise.
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2482 500 000 $65 378 214 $0 $4 025 000 $17 121 786 $

      Formation

      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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      8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
      AG
      UFA - 6
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      8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 8
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      4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 5
      Kuzmenko, Andrei
      925 000 $925 000 $
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      925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
      C
      UFA - 1
      Kemell, Joakim
      925 000 $925 000 $
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      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      AG
      RFA
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      925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
      C
      RFA - 1
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      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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      UFA - 4
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      838 333 $838 333 $
      AG
      RFA - 2
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      821 667 $821 667 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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      8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 6
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      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
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      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      G
      UFA - 3
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      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DG/DD, AG
      RFA - 1
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      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
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      787 500 $787 500 $
      G
      UFA - 1
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      925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
      DG
      UFA - 2
      3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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      1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
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      4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
      762 500 $762 500 $
      AG
      RFA - 2

      Unités spéciales

      Avantage numérique 1
      Avantage numérique 2
      Kemell, J.
      Kuzmenko, A.
      Infériorité numérique 1
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 30
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      Id imagine Boston qualifies Ahcan, especially because there will be moving pieces on the backend this year. Anything can happen, but id bet on them reaching a deal.
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 33
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      Quoting: Heyhowareya37
      Id imagine Boston qualifies Ahcan, especially because there will be moving pieces on the backend this year. Anything can happen, but id bet on them reaching a deal.


      I though so, but you also never know.

      He's a 25 year old defender coming out of college and he hasn't been hugely succesful. I would say 90% of the time he would get qualified but there may be something else and he falls to FA.

      For this mock he ends up falling to FA. He's not a big piece anyway.
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 35
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      Quoting: Heyhowareya37
      Id imagine Boston qualifies Ahcan, especially because there will be moving pieces on the backend this year. Anything can happen, but id bet on them reaching a deal.


      agree why wouldnt they qualify him? boston has 8 current nhl defensemen for 6 spots. one or 2 have to go. zboril didnt resign as a group 6 ufa to sit as a the 7th man. reilly likely moved this offseason. grz might start on ltir. or he could be moved. maybe clifton sits? theres alot of moving parts with boston and the cap gymnastics theyll have to play to land a true 2nd line center.
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 37
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      Quoting: hanson493
      agree why wouldnt they qualify him? boston has 8 current nhl defensemen for 6 spots. one or 2 have to go. zboril didnt resign as a group 6 ufa to sit as a the 7th man. reilly likely moved this offseason. grz might start on ltir. or he could be moved. maybe clifton sits? theres alot of moving parts with boston and the cap gymnastics theyll have to play to land a true 2nd line center.



      Just for the purpose of the mock he falls to FA. I think it's unlikely but for the reasons I stated in a previous comment I think there is a small possibility.

      He probably is still out though and he may want to look elsewhere where he will get more playing time to establish himself.
      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 41
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      Bear does not have much value and has been a healthy scratch recently for Carolina. If we are trading CB28 I rather get another young forward or quality top 4 d-man but why trade him? If he's willing to sign, just keep him, as soon as we trade him we will be looking for another Connor Brown player.
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 44
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      Quoting: Cowling
      Bear does not have much value and has been a healthy scratch recently for Carolina. If we are trading CB28 I rather get another young forward or quality top 4 d-man but why trade him? If he's willing to sign, just keep him, as soon as we trade him we will be looking for another Connor Brown player.



      Not really, there isn't a spot on the roster where I see Connor Brown fitting into the long term plans. You could certainly up the value coming back from Carolina. Maybe add in Gunler and take out Bokk.



      Though in all honesty, I think Ottawa found it's next Connor Brown in Matthew Joseph and that Joseph will end up replacing Brown for the duration his stay.
      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 48
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      Just for the purpose of the mock he falls to FA. I think it's unlikely but for the reasons I stated in a previous comment I think there is a small possibility.

      He probably is still out though and he may want to look elsewhere where he will get more playing time to establish himself.


      if bostons going to get rid of him theyll qualify and trade. they wont just not qualify him. seems silly to just let guys go for nothing if they can actually kind of play. hes been decent as a filler player in the nhl.
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 50
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      if bostons going to get rid of him theyll qualify and trade. they wont just not qualify him. seems silly to just let guys go for nothing if they can actually kind of play. hes been decent as a filler player in the nhl.


      Yeah, but you know, he forgot to fill the paperworksmirk
      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 51
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      Quoting: Hii
      I though so, but you also never know.

      He's a 25 year old defender coming out of college and he hasn't been hugely succesful. I would say 90% of the time he would get qualified but there may be something else and he falls to FA.

      For this mock he ends up falling to FA. He's not a big piece anyway.


      Totally - and this offseason will be interesting for BOS, lot of moving parts. So yes, anything can happen. Id say right now with Gryz starting the year hurt, Zboril coming off surgery and most likely a defensemen on the move he would be a cheap, easy guy to keep around to fill in when needed. But once again, anything can happen and he would probably have a better more consistent opportunity in OTT.
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 51
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      if bostons going to get rid of him theyll qualify and trade. they wont just not qualify him. seems silly to just let guys go for nothing if they can actually kind of play. hes been decent as a filler player in the nhl.


      I really do agree but just for the purpose of the mock he falls. I could also it as a slim possibility that Boston doesn't qualify him as they have something greater in the waterworks.
      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 52
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      Totally - and this offseason will be interesting for BOS, lot of moving parts. So yes, anything can happen. Id say right now with Gryz starting the year hurt, Zboril coming off surgery and most likely a defensemen on the move he would be a cheap, easy guy to keep around to fill in when needed. But once again, anything can happen and he would probably have a better more consistent opportunity in OTT.


      Yep, could fill in for Brannstrom and possibly Chabot on the left side if they end up injured.
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 54
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      Quoting: Hii
      Yeah, but you know, he forgot to fill the paperworksmirk


      didnt realize we were the cleveland browns. my bad.
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      2 juin 2022 à 13 h 54
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      Quoting: hanson493
      agree why wouldnt they qualify him? boston has 8 current nhl defensemen for 6 spots. one or 2 have to go. zboril didnt resign as a group 6 ufa to sit as a the 7th man. reilly likely moved this offseason. grz might start on ltir. or he could be moved. maybe clifton sits? theres alot of moving parts with boston and the cap gymnastics theyll have to play to land a true 2nd line center.


      Yes, with Gryz hurt, Zboril coming off surgery, and Reilly most likely on the move he makes sense to keep as an easy, cheap player to provide a spark and fill in when needed. But anything can happen and this year like you said will be an interesting offseason with a lot of moving parts.
      2 juin 2022 à 14 h 3
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      Quoting: Heyhowareya37
      Yes, with Gryz hurt, Zboril coming off surgery, and Reilly most likely on the move he makes sense to keep as an easy, cheap player to provide a spark and fill in when needed. But anything can happen and this year like you said will be an interesting offseason with a lot of moving parts.


      if hes going to be a 9th d with ottawa why wouldnt he try to find somewhere where he can be a more immediate impact too? assuming he goes unqualified ill play along.
      2 juin 2022 à 14 h 16
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      I couldn’t think of a worse off-season then what you just proposed
      2 juin 2022 à 14 h 20
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      I couldn’t think of a worse off-season then what you just proposed


      What's bad about it.

      You get time for JBD to become that top 4 RD.

      You get Kemell and Kuzmenko to round out you're forward group and you don't neccesairly have to do the Seattle trade or sign Achan.

      Also a big spalsh is not always the best way to go.

      I think that the East will be killer with the division looking something like:
      Florida
      Toronto
      NY
      Tampa
      Carolina
      Pittsburgh
      Washington
      Boston
      NJ
      Buffalo
      Ottawa
      Detroit

      And all those teams will be in the hunt so what is the problem with waiting one more year to get it right
      2 juin 2022 à 15 h 0
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      Quoting: hanson493
      if hes going to be a 9th d with ottawa why wouldnt he try to find somewhere where he can be a more immediate impact too? assuming he goes unqualified ill play along.


      To be honest, im not sure why im quoted here. Im on the same page - I was saying that i think boston would qualify him due to Gryz not starting the year healthy, Zboril coming off surgery and most likely a Reilly trade. So i guess to answer your question, i agree with your point. This isnt my thread, and its also assuming that OTT trades for Fleury, signs Bear, etc. From my perspective, Boston keeps him on a cheap, easy contract to provide a fill in when needed.
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      2 juin 2022 à 15 h 4
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      EASY PASS

      I would rather have a late first and prospect for Brown
      2 juin 2022 à 15 h 7
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      Does Zaitsev do anything good?
      2 juin 2022 à 15 h 9
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      Quoting: Hii
      Not really, there isn't a spot on the roster where I see Connor Brown fitting into the long term plans.

      Though in all honesty, I think Ottawa found it's next Connor Brown in Matthew Joseph and that Joseph will end up replacing Brown for the duration his stay.


      It remains to be seen if Joseph can be as good defensively while producing as much as Brown at Even Strength or on the PK. This is extremely valuable and not something I think a lot of people really understand

      A Formenton - Pinto - Brown 3rd line could IDEAL and the kind of 3rd line that would push us above competition. We're not going to outplay contending teams with the power of our top-6. They have star/high end players too and some have the elite ones

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      Does Zaitsev do anything good?


      Shelter him on your 3rd pair against average competition and he would do "ok". Need to pair with a good passer. The higher the role above that you will give him, the bigger detriment he will be.
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      2 juin 2022 à 22 h 5
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      Quoting: Xspyrit
      It remains to be seen if Joseph can be as good defensively while producing as much as Brown at Even Strength or on the PK. This is extremely valuable and not something I think a lot of people really understand

      A Formenton - Pinto - Brown 3rd line could IDEAL and the kind of 3rd line that would push us above competition. We're not going to outplay contending teams with the power of our top-6. They have star/high end players too and some have the elite ones



      Shelter him on your 3rd pair against average competition and he would do "ok". Need to pair with a good passer. The higher the role above that you will give him, the bigger detriment he will be.



      I just though of this but I could see this for the first half of the season:

      Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
      Kuzmenko - Stutzle - Brown
      Formenton - Pinto - Joseph
      - Crookshanks/Gambrell/Gaudette/Watson/Kastelic/Kelly/other 4th liner.


      Then you trade Brown for his value, have Formenton come up onto the second line.

      Then have the 7OA pick from this years draft come in next year and you'll have you're top six all set.
      3 juin 2022 à 9 h 46
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      Quoting: Hii
      I just though of this but I could see this for the first half of the season:

      Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
      Kuzmenko - Stutzle - Brown
      Formenton - Pinto - Joseph
      - Crookshanks/Gambrell/Gaudette/Watson/Kastelic/Kelly/other 4th liner.


      Then you trade Brown for his value, have Formenton come up onto the second line.

      Then have the 7OA pick from this years draft come in next year and you'll have you're top six all set.


      Not progressing much if at all doing this. Might even regress after trading Connor Brown. There's a reason contenders pay a PREMIUM to get players like Brown (Lehkonen, Copp, Coleman, etc)

      Team progression would have to come from either coaching or defense.
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      3 juin 2022 à 12 h 53
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      Quoting: Xspyrit
      Not progressing much if at all doing this. Might even regress after trading Connor Brown. There's a reason contenders pay a PREMIUM to get players like Brown (Lehkonen, Copp, Coleman, etc)

      Team progression would have to come from either coaching or defense.



      I agree and I love the way Brown plays but where in the Sens long-term plans do you see a fit for Connor Brown?
      3 juin 2022 à 13 h 38
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      I agree and I love the way Brown plays but where in the Sens long-term plans do you see a fit for Connor Brown?


      Absolutely, why not? To build a successful team, not all your players have to be under 26 years old...

      Tampa Bay :

      Steven Stamkos 31
      Victor Hedman 31
      Nikita Kucherov 28
      Alex Killorn 32
      Brayden Point 25
      Ondrej Palat 30
      Anthony Cirelli 24
      Corey Perry 36
      Nick Paul 26
      Ross Colton 25
      Mikhail Sergachev 23
      Pat Maroon 33
      Ryan McDonagh 32
      Andrei Vasilevskiy 27

      Connor Brown just turned 28 years old, is an excellent skater with flawless work-ethic and a non-stop motor. He actually plays the exact way the Sens want to play. Also, did you know it was the first time he got injured this season? He played all the Leafs/Sens 373 games from 2016-17 to 2020-

      I would sign him 5 years x 5.0 AAV
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      3 juin 2022 à 14 h 26
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      Quoting: Xspyrit
      Absolutely, why not? To build a successful team, not all your players have to be under 26 years old...

      Tampa Bay :

      Steven Stamkos 31
      Victor Hedman 31
      Nikita Kucherov 28
      Alex Killorn 32
      Brayden Point 25
      Ondrej Palat 30
      Anthony Cirelli 24
      Corey Perry 36
      Nick Paul 26
      Ross Colton 25
      Mikhail Sergachev 23
      Pat Maroon 33
      Ryan McDonagh 32
      Andrei Vasilevskiy 27

      Connor Brown just turned 28 years old, is an excellent skater with flawless work-ethic and a non-stop motor. He actually plays the exact way the Sens want to play. Also, did you know it was the first time he got injured this season? He played all the Leafs/Sens 373 games from 2016-17 to 2020-

      I would sign him 5 years x 5.0 AAV


      Fair enough, in my mind though it's either Joseph or Brown for one of the few Sens roster spots but I agree that they both fit and Brown is a Sens player to a tee.
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