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Cap with Giroux

Créé par: A_SENSFAN2020
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 2 juin 2022
Publié: 2 juin 2022
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Thoughts on our potential cap issues in a few years if we sign/trade for a big name player?
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RFAANSCAP HIT
33 250 000 $
33 300 000 $
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78 375 000 $
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24 250 000 $
37 000 000 $
23 950 000 $
23 875 000 $
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2182 500 000 $82 515 713 $0 $2 275 000 $-15 713 $
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7 275 000 $7 275 000 $
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UFA - 7
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
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UFA - 4
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3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
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UFA - 3
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8 375 000 $8 375 000 $
C
UFA - 8
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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RFA
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3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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UFA - 5
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
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3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 1
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1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
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2 juin 2022 à 10 h 54
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Didn't Dorion say they won't be spending to the cap, but they might down the road at some point as in a few years?
2 juin 2022 à 10 h 56
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That’s what I’m thinking. We really don’t have a chance if we don’t sign to the cap lol. We will definitely have to trade someone if we don’t. Trying to keep everyone at the contract I signed them to might not be realistic. Wasn’t overly generous.
2 juin 2022 à 12 h 47
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That’s what I’m thinking. We really don’t have a chance if we don’t sign to the cap lol. We will definitely have to trade someone if we don’t. Trying to keep everyone at the contract I signed them to might not be realistic. Wasn’t overly generous.


The longer Giroux's contract, the lower the AAV. I could see him at 3 x $5m, not 7. I also think Connor Brown is going to be traded at the TDL like Nick Paul was this year. Giroux @ 5 and no Connor Brown creates nearly $6m in cap space.
Personally, I would offer Giroux 1 year at 7, so he can chase the Cup again as a rental. In fact, rather than offering UFA Giroux, I would prefer offering the 2022 # 7 overall pick to Carolina for RFA Martin Necas or to VGK for RFA Nicolas Roy, (Carolina and Vegas must know that both players are prime candidates for an offer sheet of 5 years @ $4.2 million with a 2023 2nd Rd pick as compensation).
Come to think of it, how about keep the #7 pick and trade Connor Brown to cap-squeezed VGK for Nicolas Roy and Evgeni Dadanov? You could then trade Dadanov, either to Arizona as a camp dump or at the TDL as a rental.
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2 juin 2022 à 13 h 6
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Bye bye Sanderson, ripe for an offer sheet with no money to sign him
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2 juin 2022 à 13 h 16
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Quoting: Sr_Advisor_Hockey_Ops
The longer Giroux's contract, the lower the AAV. I could see him at 3 x $5m, not 7. I also think Connor Brown is going to be traded at the TDL like Nick Paul was this year. Giroux 5 and no Connor Brown creates nearly $6m in cap space.
Personally, I would offer Giroux 1 year at 7, so he can chase the Cup again as a rental. In fact, rather than offering UFA Giroux, I would prefer offering the 2022 # 7 overall pick to Carolina for RFA Martin Necas or to VGK for RFA Nicolas Roy, (Carolina and Vegas must know that both players are prime candidates for an offer sheet of 5 years $4.2 million with a 2023 2nd Rd pick as compensation).
Come to think of it, how about keep the #7 pick and trade Connor Brown to cap-squeezed VGK for Nicolas Roy and Evgeni Dadanov? You could then trade Dadanov, either to Arizona as a camp dump or at the TDL as a rental.


I like the idea for Trading brown but you’d think Daddonov would have Ottawa on his no trade list right?? Maybe they could send brown in a package for Marchessault or swap for Patches?(if they waive protections)
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2 juin 2022 à 13 h 56
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Quoting: OwnGoal
I like the idea for Trading brown but you’d think Daddonov would have Ottawa on his no trade list right?? Maybe they could send brown in a package for Marchessault or swap for Patches?(if they waive protections)


Would I include the team that just traded me away on my no trade list? Or would I think they would never trade for me, so having Ottawa on my no trade list would be a waste of a spot? As well. even if Ottawa is on my list, what if I was informed that I would be ending up in a third city that was not on my list?
2 juin 2022 à 15 h 14
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Quoting: Sr_Advisor_Hockey_Ops
The longer Giroux's contract, the lower the AAV. I could see him at 3 x $5m, not 7. I also think Connor Brown is going to be traded at the TDL like Nick Paul was this year. Giroux 5 and no Connor Brown creates nearly $6m in cap space.
Personally, I would offer Giroux 1 year at 7, so he can chase the Cup again as a rental. In fact, rather than offering UFA Giroux, I would prefer offering the 2022 # 7 overall pick to Carolina for RFA Martin Necas or to VGK for RFA Nicolas Roy, (Carolina and Vegas must know that both players are prime candidates for an offer sheet of 5 years $4.2 million with a 2023 2nd Rd pick as compensation).
Come to think of it, how about keep the #7 pick and trade Connor Brown to cap-squeezed VGK for Nicolas Roy and Evgeni Dadanov? You could then trade Dadanov, either to Arizona as a camp dump or at the TDL as a rental.


Nicolas Roy is great but not worth a 7th OA pick in any way, shape or form.
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4 juin 2022 à 17 h 7
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Quoting: Sr_Advisor_Hockey_Ops
The longer Giroux's contract, the lower the AAV. I could see him at 3 x $5m, not 7. I also think Connor Brown is going to be traded at the TDL like Nick Paul was this year. Giroux 5 and no Connor Brown creates nearly $6m in cap space.
Personally, I would offer Giroux 1 year at 7, so he can chase the Cup again as a rental. In fact, rather than offering UFA Giroux, I would prefer offering the 2022 # 7 overall pick to Carolina for RFA Martin Necas or to VGK for RFA Nicolas Roy, (Carolina and Vegas must know that both players are prime candidates for an offer sheet of 5 years $4.2 million with a 2023 2nd Rd pick as compensation).
Come to think of it, how about keep the #7 pick and trade Connor Brown to cap-squeezed VGK for Nicolas Roy and Evgeni Dadanov? You could then trade Dadanov, either to Arizona as a camp dump or at the TDL as a rental.


A few things. If we are being honest do we really expect Giroux to come here at anything less then that? Unless he really wants to come home I don’t see him taking anything less. I personally don’t like the idea of trading Connor brown. He is so important defensively he’s almost underrated league wide. The amount of chances he creates is wild too. Especially shorthanded. He’s a true X factor imo and the perfect 3rd liner. Can definitely score 20 when we are contending. I would go after Roy with an offer sheet but definitely not pick 7. He only had 39 points… At pick 7 we could take a difference maker. I would trade pick 7 for Fiala for sure though. If Vegas wanted to trade marchessault and Roy for like pick 7, Brannstrom and another prospect I’d be down. But definitely not Dadonov and Roy. Dadonov just didn’t work here.
4 juin 2022 à 17 h 9
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Nicolas Roy is great but not worth a 7th OA pick in any way, shape or form.


Agree. 39 points over a 79 game span isn’t worth 7th overall. Especially when Fiala who put up 84 has been linked to the pick. And Minnesota doesn’t have enough to resign him
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Would I include the team that just traded me away on my no trade list? Or would I think they would never trade for me, so having Ottawa on my no trade list would be a waste of a spot? As well. even if Ottawa is on my list, what if I was informed that I would be ending up in a third city that was not on my list?


Even as a rental there’s no space for him tbh. Looking at the lineup above everyone but Sokolov and Greig should be in the lineup. Where Giroux is placed will be a legitimate top 6 forward (hopefully) like Giroux , Fiala, Burakovsky, Etc. Watson likely has locked up that bottom line rw spot. I think whitey will be back. Just no space at all. Maybe Vegas will move him and a pick to Arizona?
4 juin 2022 à 17 h 18
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Bye bye Sanderson, ripe for an offer sheet with no money to sign him


Hopefully if this does happen we would just trade Giroux. Will be especially tough when Batherson’s next contract is up 😳 that contract is truly a blessing
 
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