Bergeron retires tank for Bedard

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Créé par: beantownboy17

Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston

Date de création initiale: 1 juin 2022

Publié: 1 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Move into the 1st round then trade up with a team willing to move. The center depth in this draft is great. Then cut some fat, get some young talent into the lineup and slug through it. Resign Pasta for 8×9mil. With the recent signings, the only way this team can be competitive is with good young talent and we either need to draft it or find it in our depleted farm system. With Marchand out until at least early December, I see no reason to try and coast until he comes back and try to claw our way back up the standings. The guys who get roster looks are in under scratches, which is why the bottom of the lineup looks depleted.
And I swear if any of you say "*blank* declines" without providing a constructive alternative I'm gonna puke.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Ahcan, Jack		2	950 000 $
Studnicka, Jack		2	900 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya		4	4 500 000 $
Pateryn, Greg		1	800 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Geekie, Conor		3	925 000 $

Transactions

BOS

Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)

NYI

Reilly, Mike

BOS

Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)

EDM

DeBrusk, Jake
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)

BOS

Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NJD)

NJD

Clifton, Connor

BOS

Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BOS)

OTT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)

Rachats de contrats

Nick Foligno: 1 933 334 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
26	82 500 000 $	75 625 835 $	0 $	315 000 $	6 874 165 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hall, Taylor 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Haula, Erik 2 375 000 $2 375 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Pastrnak, David 6 666 667 $6 666 667 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Mikheyev, Ilya 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Coyle, Charlie 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Smith, Craig 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Frederic, Trent 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Studnicka, Jack 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2	Steen, Oskar 800 000 $800 000 $ C, AD RFA - 2
	Nosek, Tomas 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1
		Wagner, Chris 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Lindholm, Hampus 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG NTC, NMC UFA - 8	McAvoy, Charlie 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ DD UFA - 8	Swayman, Jeremy 925 000 $925 000 $ (150 000 $$150K) G RFA - 1
Grzelcyk, Matt 3 687 500 $3 687 500 $ DG UFA - 2	Carlo, Brandon 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Ullmark, Linus 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Forbort, Derek 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Zboril, Jakub 1 137 500 $1 137 500 $ DG/DD UFA - 2
Ahcan, Jack 950 000 $950 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Pateryn, Greg 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Callahan, Michael 883 750 $883 750 $ (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 2		Marchand, Brad 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Lauko, Jakub 764 167 $764 167 $ (82 500 $$82K) AG, AD RFA - 1
Lysell, Fabian 894 167 $894 167 $ AD RFA - 4
McLaughlin, Marc 883 750 $883 750 $ C RFA - 1
Beecher, John 925 000 $925 000 $ C RFA - 3

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 4

oilersguy

I make typos

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why do the Oilers do this?

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 5

Shibbal18

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if youre tanking you need to Dump Pasta, Carlo, McAvoy and Lindholm. This team misses the playoffs but isnt close to last place

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 6

Shibbal18

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Quoting: oilersguy

why do the Oilers do this?

DeBrusk is worth 30th overall

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 7

oilersguy

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Quoting: Shibbal18

DeBrusk is worth 30th overall

that may be so but the Oilers have no need for him

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 8

hanson493

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Quoting: Shibbal18

if youre tanking you need to Dump Pasta, Carlo, McAvoy and Lindholm. This team misses the playoffs but isnt close to last place

you dont have to dump any of those players. kings got a top pick with doughty/kopitar etc.

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 9

literallychrissy

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Mikheyev will sign with Toronto

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 9

Marcheesy

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Reilly for a 3rd not 2nd

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 10

littlejerryseinfeld

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Ottawa obviously doesn't do that

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 10

hanson493

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Quoting: oilersguy

that may be so but the Oilers have no need for him

with the evander kane emergence right now no. if he stays in edmonton i would agree with you. big IF. I also think debrusk is better right now than yamamoto. but thats just my lone opinion.

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 10

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dannibalcorpse

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Quoting: TofuMuncher

Mikheyev will sign with Toronto

he might be priced out unless they move a guy like Kerfoot

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 10

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Julesens

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What a trade for the Sens.

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 12

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TheMooterus

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Why would Ottawa make that trade? They move down at least 21 picks in the 1st Round, move up about that many picks into the late 2nd round, and they're expected to accept this deal?

This is an immediate rejection from the Senators

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 13

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Shibbal18

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Quoting: hanson493

you dont have to dump any of those players. kings got a top pick with doughty/kopitar etc.

LA won the draft lottery to move up from 4th to 2nd place. There roster was significantly worse, they had 1 20 goal scorer, that year was also the 1st time Doughty's decline was noticeable

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 13

#14

literallychrissy

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

he might be priced out unless they move a guy like Kerfoot

Yeah but he's too valuable. I value him above Kerfoot.

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 13

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oilersguy

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Quoting: hanson493

with the evander kane emergence right now no. if he stays in edmonton i would agree with you. big IF. I also think debrusk is better right now than yamamoto. but thats just my lone opinion.

If Kane does leave we have Holloway and we need to re-sign Yamo and JP and Debrusk's 4 mil would hurt our chances of signing them both

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 13

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ReelBigFan

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You’d need to add significantly in order for the sens to pick up their phone on this…

Probably Carlo or something

And you’d still make the playoffs lol
The idea is there, but you’d need to make about 6-7 more trades in order to be a lotto team and that would involve several big names getting moved

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 14

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CMcAvoy73

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The problem is that a team with mcavoy and lindholm on the backend is just going to be too good to tank.

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 15

#18

CMcAvoy73

Banni

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Quoting: oilersguy

why do the Oilers do this?

Because thats a great deal for them. 25 year old 25 goal scorers for 4M don’t grow on trees.

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 15

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CMcAvoy73

Banni

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Quoting: hanson493

you dont have to dump any of those players. kings got a top pick with doughty/kopitar etc.

Because doughty and kopitar were playing poorly. This isn’t a 30 year old mcavoy who’s starting to get some injuries and having down years.

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 16

#20

dannibalcorpse

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Picks #30 & 64 do not get you picks #7 & 86 - you need to add something fairly significant (early 2nd round value-ish) to make that trade worth Ottawa's time.

Also it's Mike Reilly for a 3rd, not a 2nd, even if that 2nd is only like 15 spots ahead of the 3rd. We have standards around here.

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 17

#21

Shibbal18

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it will take significantly more than a late 2nd to move up from 30 to the 7th pick

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 22

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Xspyrit

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This ACGM in a vacuum is exactly what is wrong with this section...

OP says "And I swear if any of you say "*blank* declines" without providing a constructive alternative I'm gonna puke"

But then manages to propose this :

BOS
2022 1st round pick (OTT) : 7th OA pick
2022 3rd round pick (BOS) : 90th OA pick

OTT
2022 1st round pick (EDM) : 29th+ OA pick
2022 2nd round pick (COL) : 60th OA pick

There is absolutely no constructive alternative that we can provide. This is just a stupid proposal. No other way around it.

I think one should only be able to ask for "constructive criticism" when they are able to do a little better than that.

DECLINE

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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 27

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hanson493

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Quoting: Shibbal18

LA won the draft lottery to move up from 4th to 2nd place. There roster was significantly worse, they had 1 20 goal scorer, that year was also the 1st time Doughty's decline was noticeable

1 20 goal scorer 4 guys at 17 or 18. total goals scored for that team: 177 and it wasnt a full 82 game league year.
bruins this year had 253... take 25 from bergy, take 25 from debrusk thats 203. everybody elses numbers will dwindle because theres no true 1c there. if this scenario happened bruins wouldnt be that far off from last in terms of goals scored in the league. Worst in the league goals wise was Arizona with 207. Based on a center group of 1c Haula, 2c coyle, 3c studnicka this team would be terrible.

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 32

#24

Shibbal18

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Quoting: hanson493

LA still was 4th and this team is better than that roster. Much better goaltending and D

1 juin 2022 à 11 h 35

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Xspyrit

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

Picks #30 & 64 do not get you picks #7 & 86 - you need to add something fairly significant (early 2nd round value-ish) to make that trade worth Ottawa's time.

I would never trade a 7th OA pick for a late first and two second round picks. There would need to be a very specific reason to do that (like you absolutely hate a whole draft class)

You never know when will be the next time you have the chance to draft that high. Sens have had high picks recently during their rebuild, but before that and after their last "tanking draft" in 1996 following their expansion (picked Chris Phillips 1st OA in a weak class), they only had the 2nd OA pick in 2001 (Jason Spezza 2nd OA but it wasn't even their pick, that one was gifted by Milbury in the Yashin trade) and the 6th OA pick in 2011. It took until 2018 to have another Top-7 pick with Brady Tkachuk at 4th OA

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