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Créé par: sk540
Équipe: 2022-23 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 31 mai 2022
Publié: 31 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
2875 000 $
2875 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 500 000 $
2775 000 $
710 800 000 $
Transactions
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PHI
BUF
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
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3.
ARI
  1. Brink, Bobby
  2. Fedotov, Ivan
  3. O'Brien, Jay [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $76 001 262 $295 000 $725 000 $6 498 738 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
10 800 000 $10 800 000 $
AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
875 000 $875 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
875 000 $875 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 675 000 $4 675 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance725 000 $$725K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 5

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31 mai 2022 à 10 h 37
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4 million $ in real (given trade is after bonuses) for 3rd pick is a bit too much.
31 mai 2022 à 10 h 39
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As a Coyotes fan I like the idea of 5th OA + something for Chychrun. Hopefully we can get Nemec, but I'd be happy with Jiricek or Gauthier too.
31 mai 2022 à 10 h 46
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That caps deal feels pretty bad for Philly

And chych price is just too high imo.. I’d pass
31 mai 2022 à 10 h 54
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That caps deal feels pretty bad for Philly

And chych price is just too high imo.. I’d pass


Really? Why do you say that?

This team is certainly better than our team last year. I don't think there are too much overpayments here. Carlson is a legit #1 with huge offensive upside, and Mantha was a little banged up last year but I think the kid has more there and can be a great middle 6 winger. Signing JG would help with the loss of TK, and playing him on a line with Cam could boost Cam's goal numbers as well. 23 on a horrible team isn't bad at all, seems like he still has the touch.

Also injecting youth with Wade, Owen, Frost, Tanner, and York, keeps the team with some youth, built around players in there prime, and a few vets scattered in there. It's a good mix for sure.
31 mai 2022 à 10 h 56
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As a Coyotes fan I like the idea of 5th OA + something for Chychrun. Hopefully we can get Nemec, but I'd be happy with Jiricek or Gauthier too.


Honestly, i would have probably tried something else if we were top 4, if we could get one of Wright, Cooley, Nemec, or Slaf, I would keep this. The uncertainty of Jiricek and the rest, makes me want to trade it now.
31 mai 2022 à 11 h 0
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Honestly, i would have probably tried something else if we were top 4, if we could get one of Wright, Cooley, Nemec, or Slaf, I would keep this. The uncertainty of Jiricek and the rest, makes me want to trade it now.


I get that. The top 4 you mentioned is a tier of their own. I don't like Jiricek personally either. His skating is not good. If we take Cooley I like the thought of also getting Gauthier, but only him as a selection I don't think I'd be too thrilled about either. I do like a line of Gauthier - Cooley - Guenther.
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31 mai 2022 à 11 h 3
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Really? Why do you say that?

This team is certainly better than our team last year. I don't think there are too much overpayments here. Carlson is a legit #1 with huge offensive upside, and Mantha was a little banged up last year but I think the kid has more there and can be a great middle 6 winger. Signing JG would help with the loss of TK, and playing him on a line with Cam could boost Cam's goal numbers as well. 23 on a horrible team isn't bad at all, seems like he still has the touch.

Also injecting youth with Wade, Owen, Frost, Tanner, and York, keeps the team with some youth, built around players in there prime, and a few vets scattered in there. It's a good mix for sure.


It’s mainly age.. It’s a good deal skill wise and the team looks better overall, but not sure we should be getting older… plus it probably puts us in a tighter position to extend Sanhiem
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31 mai 2022 à 17 h 27
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My god would this team be bad in 1-2 years
1 juin 2022 à 7 h 34
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My god would this team be bad in 1-2 years


How do you figure? The oldest player on the team is 32, the average age is 26, what the hell are you talking about?
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It’s mainly age.. It’s a good deal skill wise and the team looks better overall, but not sure we should be getting older… plus it probably puts us in a tighter position to extend Sanhiem


getting older? the average age is 26, oldest guy is 32, we'd be one of the younger teams in the league.
1 juin 2022 à 8 h 20
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This is an interesting trade idea, but I'm not sure Washington would go for this. The main stickler here (at least for me) is that Provorov would be on the wrong side, and Washington would have to try and move either Orlov or Fehervary to the right side to make it work. A defensive core of:

Provorov-Orlov
Fehervary-Jensen
Alexeyev-Van Riemsdyk

Could work, but I'm not sure if the Caps would be confident enough in it. It would be a little disappointing to trade Mantha, but I wouldn't mind Konecny as a substitute. Other problem is that of Oskar Lindblom, who Washington may not have cap space for, but that could be ironed out and I have no doubt that a different trade could be found for Lindblom.
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1 juin 2022 à 9 h 13
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How do you figure? The oldest player on the team is 32, the average age is 26, what the hell are you talking about?


You’re moving two twenty-five year old players for a 26 and 32 year old…

Mantha is just a more injury prone TK who brings less overall to the table as well. So while he is only a year older, guy probably feels like he is closer to 33 than 26 due to injuries

JC is good, but we get 7 years older making our window that much smaller… people are tossing Provorov under the bus while praising a guy like Chychurn who literally has scary identical stats, but because he is 2M less people think he is worth a ton and Provorov should be moved.

Honestly, give these players a year under a coach who isn’t awful like AV and their values will skyrocket again
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How do you figure? The oldest player on the team is 32, the average age is 26, what the hell are you talking about?


Money wrapped up in gaudreu, hayes, mantha, atkinson who are all getting slower. Couturier just missed an entire season so no guarantees he can play at same pace. the right side of the dcore all past primes except risto who never had a prime.
1 juin 2022 à 11 h 50
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Money wrapped up in gaudreu, hayes, mantha, atkinson who are all getting slower. Couturier just missed an entire season so no guarantees he can play at same pace. the right side of the dcore all past primes except risto who never had a prime.


I could say the same thing just the opposite, coots could return to his stellar defensive play and point per game pace. None of the players you just mentioned are showing signs of getting slower, either, where do you get that? Hayes was nearly a point per game player when he returned and JG just put up 120+ points. Cam scored 23 goals on a doomed team. I don't know what you're watching but it's like you're saying all these players are definitely doomed or on some downturn when the evidence points to the contrary.
1 juin 2022 à 11 h 53
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Not in love with the idea of moving out 5th overall for Chychrun when we have Provorov. Move out all those pieces and still only have one player who is a gamebreaker - Gaudreau
1 juin 2022 à 12 h 39
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I could say the same thing just the opposite, coots could return to his stellar defensive play and point per game pace. None of the players you just mentioned are showing signs of getting slower, either, where do you get that? Hayes was nearly a point per game player when he returned and JG just put up 120+ points. Cam scored 23 goals on a doomed team. I don't know what you're watching but it's like you're saying all these players are definitely doomed or on some downturn when the evidence points to the contrary.


IDK call it a gut feeling then but I think the flyers are in one of the worst spots to be in the nhl and trading a top 5 pick and signing the most expensive ufa is in the wrong direction for the club... Not to mention they really dont have a deep prospect pool and you have wade allison on the second line
 
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