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Créé par: sedin33
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 30 mai 2022
Publié: 30 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
46 500 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
1850 000 $
1850 000 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
27 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Kuzmenko, Andrei
1950 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Mercer, Dawson
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
After the draft, Top 5 protected; Miller signs extension
2.
VAN
  1. Grans, Helge
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
3.
VAN
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
4.
VAN
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Any team
5.
VAN
  1. Johnson, Erik
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Waives NTC
6.
VAN
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
7.
VAN
  1. Lucic, Milan (1 300 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Ferland, Micheal
Détails additionnels:
LTIR
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYI
Logo de COL
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de NJD
Logo de VAN
Logo de LAK
Logo de FLA
Logo de CGY
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 058 334 $1 250 000 $1 550 000 $1 441 666 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Kuzmenko, Andrei
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 950 000 $3 950 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Avantage numérique 2
Kuzmenko, A.

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30 mai 2022 à 17 h 30
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Flames decline
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30 mai 2022 à 17 h 32
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Wouldn't trade Mercer for Miller straight up.

Stop trying to send Miller to NJ, it isn't a fit.
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30 mai 2022 à 17 h 34
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Ask yourself this;

Why would New Jersey, a rebuilding team, make this trade?
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30 mai 2022 à 17 h 43
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it'll cost a 2nd to dump lucic without retention. you're not getting coronato too lol, and we don't need to take ferland back

plus nobody wants myers
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30 mai 2022 à 18 h 18
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The remaining cap dollars is a hell of a figure
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30 mai 2022 à 18 h 20
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Quoting: zyyyp
Ask yourself this;

Why would New Jersey, a rebuilding team, make this trade?


It sounds like your GM wants to exit the rebuke. New Jersey is probably not the best fit but it doesn’t seem like you guys are gonna be rebuilding for much longer
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30 mai 2022 à 18 h 22
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Quoting: Alfie11
it'll cost a 2nd to dump lucic without retention. you're not getting coronato too lol, and we don't need to take ferland back

plus nobody wants myers


Fair point. I changed that.
30 mai 2022 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: zyyyp
Ask yourself this;

Why would New Jersey, a rebuilding team, make this trade?


Read the post and started to scroll to say the exact same thought!
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30 mai 2022 à 21 h 5
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EJ doesn't waive and the Avs decline anyway.
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31 mai 2022 à 9 h 43
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COL declines.
Dickinson doesnt fill a need and it overpaid himself.
Doesnt make sense to move EJ to save cap space to then take on an overpaid contract in return
31 mai 2022 à 10 h 0
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Quoting: zyyyp
Ask yourself this;

Why would New Jersey, a rebuilding team, make this trade?


Quoting: Smitty426
Read the post and started to scroll to say the exact same thought!


The rebuild has to end at some point particularly for a team that hasn't made the playoffs since 2018, a general manager that is already 2 years into his tenure, and a team that will add another top 2 player this year.

Miller is the type of player NJ needs. Can play first line center, but can also play wing. On a line with Hughes, he can take important draws and switch if need during play. He's a leader who will guide the young players.
31 mai 2022 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: TJTwolf
EJ doesn't waive and the Avs decline anyway.


Quoting: McRanteskog
COL declines.
Dickinson doesnt fill a need and it overpaid himself.
Doesnt make sense to move EJ to save cap space to then take on an overpaid contract in return


Yeah $3M+ in cap space for a team in the middle of it's cup contending window makes no sense.
31 mai 2022 à 10 h 7
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Quoting: sedin33
Yeah $3M+ in cap space for a team in the middle of it's cup contending window makes no sense.


no need to get sensitive and defensive, its just a bad proposal.
EJs proven hes still valuable to COL and if he was to be moved, would be for a pick or prospect instead. This clears his full cap hit and doesnt involve taking back a useless/overpaid contract in return (while netting a better return).

For arguement sake, if COL wants to move EJ and save 3mil cap space, they could easily retain half of his deal, trade him for a return BETTER than Dickinson and still save 3mil cap space.
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31 mai 2022 à 10 h 14
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Quoting: McRanteskog
no need to get sensitive and defensive, its just a bad proposal.
EJs proven hes still valuable to COL and if he was to be moved, would be for a pick or prospect instead. This clears his full cap hit and doesnt involve taking back a useless/overpaid contract in return (while netting a better return).

For arguement sake, if COL wants to move EJ and save 3mil cap space, they could easily retain half of his deal, trade him for a return BETTER than Dickinson and still save 3mil cap space.


Isn't he a 3rd pair dman for you? If Dickinson is that bad, you could save an additional $1M by moving him to the minors.
31 mai 2022 à 10 h 41
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Isn't he a 3rd pair dman for you? If Dickinson is that bad, you could save an additional $1M by moving him to the minors.


Yes third pair but why would that matter when everyone has a role to fill?

EJ compared the COL other Dmen was:
- 4th in points, 3rd in goals.
- tied 1st for most games played (stayed healthy and filled in when top 4 guys were hurt).
- 3rd in +/-
- 1st in hits
- 1st in blocked shots.
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31 mai 2022 à 11 h 1
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Yes third pair but why would that matter when everyone has a role to fill?

EJ compared the COL other Dmen was:
- 4th in points, 3rd in goals.
- tied 1st for most games played (stayed healthy and filled in when top 4 guys were hurt).
- 3rd in +/-
- 1st in hits
- 1st in blocked shots.


Colorado will have some tough choices this off-season. Lots of free agents.

For what it’s worth, I hope they make it to the finals.
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31 mai 2022 à 11 h 25
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Colorado will have some tough choices this off-season. Lots of free agents.

For what it’s worth, I hope they make it to the finals.


Nichuskin and Kuemper get resigned.
Kadri and Burakovsky are gone.
Manson can stay only if EJ is moved.
It is what it is at this point.
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31 mai 2022 à 16 h 23
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Quoting: sedin33
The rebuild has to end at some point particularly for a team that hasn't made the playoffs since 2018, a general manager that is already 2 years into his tenure, and a team that will add another top 2 player this year.

Miller is the type of player NJ needs. Can play first line center, but can also play wing. On a line with Hughes, he can take important draws and switch if need during play. He's a leader who will guide the young players.


Of course it does, but you don't get out of a rebuild by trading a 20 year old that just had a great rookie year and a 1st for a 29 year old coming off a career year that's going to command a ton of money. If Miller is such a great fit on a rebuilding team, why is Vancouver trading him? Right, because he doesn't fit their window. Same can be said for New Jersey.

I don't doubt that he's the type of player we need, but this deal just doesn't make sense. If NJ packages one of the best rookies in the game + a 1st, it would be for a star under the age of 25.
31 mai 2022 à 16 h 24
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Quoting: Juiceman
It sounds like your GM wants to exit the rebuke. New Jersey is probably not the best fit but it doesn’t seem like you guys are gonna be rebuilding for much longer


Sure. I don't think making this trade for a 29 year old is the right move to "exit the rebuild"
31 mai 2022 à 18 h 30
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Quoting: zyyyp
Sure. I don't think making this trade for a 29 year old is the right move to "exit the rebuild"


You’re right. JT Miller is practically a fossil at this point
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