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No Letang - Part 2

Créé par: Mr_Gardoki
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2022
Publié: 27 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
SJ Fans - You're generally pretty reasonable on here, so let me know where I may be going wrong on this deal. I know Zucker makes no real sense for you, but it's more of a cap move for the Pens. I still don't know if you guys are about to start rebuilding or not. Not retaining on Burns, so I figure that helps with things.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
47 000 000 $
54 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
55 000 000 $
46 250 000 $
31 500 000 $
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1.
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
2.
SJS
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
  2. Poulin, Samuel
  3. Zucker, Jason
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Cond'l 2nd: If the Pens go to the SCF Finals it becomes a 1st.
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
DET
  1. Dumoulin, Brian
Détails additionnels:
ANY TEAM
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2182 500 000 $77 871 842 $0 $0 $4 628 158 $
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
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NMC
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 6
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
UFA - 4
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA
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3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 8
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
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UFA - 4
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 2

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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 53
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Burns without money retained is nowhere near this valuable. The guy isn’t worth 8 mil. Why wouldn’t we just resign Letang for 8mil and not give up so many assets?
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 54
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Quoting: Hullsy09
Burns without money retained is nowhere near this valuable. The guy isn’t worth 8 mil. Why wouldn’t we just resign Letang for 8mil and not give up so many assets?


Well not re-signing Letang may not be coming down to money. Also Burns still put up very good numbers this year. 54 points and 10 goals.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 56
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Well not re-signing Letang may not be coming down to money. Also Burns still put up very good numbers this year. 54 points and 10 goals.


Burns is also 37 and a defensive liability. I guess where we differ is that I think the problem with Letang is not that he doesn’t want to be in pitt, I think they are just working on contract
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 57
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Burns is also 37 and a defensive liability. I guess where we differ is that I think the problem with Letang is not that he doesn’t want to be in pitt, I think they are just working on contract


The issue is options. There really aren't many.
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27 mai 2022 à 13 h 6
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Burns without money retained is nowhere near this valuable. The guy isn’t worth 8 mil. Why wouldn’t we just resign Letang for 8mil and not give up so many assets?


Burns is still very much valuable plus the sharks are taking $5.5 mil back in Zucker. More than a fair trade.
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27 mai 2022 à 13 h 54
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Burns without money retained is nowhere near this valuable. The guy isn’t worth 8 mil. Why wouldn’t we just resign Letang for 8mil and not give up so many assets?


Burns is worth every cent of his contract. Sharks decline this deal quite quickly.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 57
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Burns is worth every cent of his contract. Sharks decline this deal quite quickly.


I don't disagree that there may be work to fiddle with this deal, but I don't think it's far out of the spectrum of what they can expect. More than happy to tinker with the prospects coming back.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 58
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I don't disagree that there may be work to fiddle with this deal, but I don't think it's far out of the spectrum of what they can expect. More than happy to tinker with the prospects coming back.


How is POJ? I’d be interested in maybe a defenseman coming back. Not sure of his value though
27 mai 2022 à 14 h 24
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Detroit isn't giving up a 2nd for 1 season of Dumoulin.
27 mai 2022 à 14 h 34
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Burns is worth every cent of his contract. Sharks decline this deal quite quickly.


Then why has Elliott Friedman reported that the sharks have been desperately trying to trade one of burns, Karlson, or vlassic and there has been no interest?
27 mai 2022 à 15 h 29
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How is POJ? I’d be interested in maybe a defenseman coming back. Not sure of his value though


His value is mixed depending on who speak to. He's a similar mold of Pettersson, but with a little more offensive upside. He's going either be a VERY good 3rd pairing LHD or a good 2nd LHD. The only thing I'd do if I swapped him out for Kap, is remove the condition on the 2nd.
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27 mai 2022 à 15 h 30
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Detroit isn't giving up a 2nd for 1 season of Dumoulin.


You didn't read underneath the trade, homie.
27 mai 2022 à 16 h 35
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You didn't read underneath the trade, homie.


No I did. It's real simple if you don't want Detroit fans to answer don't put Detroit as the destination team.
27 mai 2022 à 16 h 50
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No I did. It's real simple if you don't want Detroit fans to answer don't put Detroit as the destination team.


No, you didn't. I just chose DET as a place holder. It says ANY TEAM.

EDIT: My bad. I meant to put any team lol
27 mai 2022 à 16 h 54
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Then why has Elliott Friedman reported that the sharks have been desperately trying to trade one of burns, Karlson, or vlassic and there has been no interest?


No one but Friedman has reported this with accuracy, no one has confirmed it. You don't lead the league in minutes played, finish 12th in scoring and have your team "desperately looking to trade you" Silly comment. Friedman 'speculated' this. He didn't confirm anything.
27 mai 2022 à 16 h 59
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I don't disagree that there may be work to fiddle with this deal, but I don't think it's far out of the spectrum of what they can expect. More than happy to tinker with the prospects coming back.


If the Pens had desirable prospects then sure...unfortunately their cupboard is bare and depressing.
27 mai 2022 à 17 h 6
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If the Pens had desirable prospects then sure...unfortunately their cupboard is bare and depressing.


I mean look, it's been widely known SJ is trying to unload Burns. It's not like you're going to get a 1st + top prospect for him. Yeah, our prospects are not sexy, but we have a couple of bright spots that we can part with.

Burns is 37 years old. The Pens just happen to be a good destination if we lose Letang, but not many contending teams are going to give up super significant pieces for Burns given his age, nor will they have the space like we will. Most teams would make you retain.

This is a pretty fair deal. Sure, a tweak or two maybe, but overall it's very fair for you guys.
27 mai 2022 à 17 h 16
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No one but Friedman has reported this with accuracy, no one has confirmed it. You don't lead the league in minutes played, finish 12th in scoring and have your team "desperately looking to trade you" Silly comment. Friedman 'speculated' this. He didn't confirm anything.


alright enjoy being mediocre forever. Paying 3 washed up dmen 26.5 million is a great recipe for that. Remember 2016 because that was you last trip to the finals wink
 
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