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Pay Johnny Big Money He Is Better Than Panarin

Créé par: CementHead27
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2022
Publié: 27 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Realistic Flames fans know he is gone. If he wanted to stay for 8 years in Calgary why isn’t that a done deal right now?
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Anywhere for a cheap cap dump
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 21
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Yeah looks like a good fit. Devils have to be good at some point right? They probably trade Tatar before johnsson no? Also Cooley would be my guy to draft. Him as a future winger for Hughes and gaudreau..... DAMN. but I get where you are coming from. Don't forget about Luke Hughes as well. Think of what Bouchard is doing in Edmonton right now, but better. This team should be at the top of the east in 2 years imo. Good thread 👍
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 23
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Jesus Christ please don’t do this, Tom
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 24
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Jesus Christ please don’t do this, Tom


Don’t sign the best UFA and a top 10 player in the league? That’s a weird thing to not want
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 27
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He said himself, that he wanted to focus on the season then start talks back up again after they were done
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 31
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Johnny is great but 12 mill oof thats way too much hes worth at least 9-9.5 hes not on the level of Mcdavid or Matthews the only ones that deserve that 12 mill imo.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 37
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He said himself, that he wanted to focus on the season then start talks back up again after they were done


That’s standard for any player. If he wanted to stay there he would have signed a big extension last season. Instead he went out and had his career year. He’s gone
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 38
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Johnny is great but 12 mill oof thats way too much hes worth at least 9-9.5 hes not on the level of Mcdavid or Matthews the only ones that deserve that 12 mill imo.


Matthews deserves 12 million? He basically makes it now but after the postseason I’d say he’s slightly overpaid
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 39
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I don’t see the Devils pursuing him this off-season. Certainly not at that rate.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 42
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Johnny is great but 12 mill oof thats way too much hes worth at least 9-9.5 hes not on the level of Mcdavid or Matthews the only ones that deserve that 12 mill imo.


Agree with this. He’ll get around $9 million on long-term deal somewhere.

Panarin signed before the pandemic, when we were expecting the cap to be around $98-100m when he exited his contract (now appears ~$86m by then).
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 43
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Agree with this. He’ll get around $9 million on long-term deal somewhere.

Panarin signed before the pandemic, when we were expecting the cap to be around $98-100m when he exited his contract (now appears ~$86m by then).


There’s no chance he isn’t getting paid 8 figured by a team.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 43
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Matthews deserves 12 million? He basically makes it now but after the postseason I’d say he’s slightly overpaid


Nah he's not overpaid or underpaid he's getting paid what hes worth the dude put up 60 goals this year man and 41 in a shortened season not sure how hes overpaid but yeah everyone has their opinons.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 45
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Nah he's not overpaid or underpaid he's getting paid what hes worth the dude put up 60 goals this year man and 41 in a shortened season not sure how hes overpaid but yeah everyone has their opinons.


He is a great player but because of where he plays he is hyped endlessly by the media. Remember a month ago when Toronto was seriously saying he’s better than Connor?
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 45
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There’s no chance he isn’t getting paid 8 figured by a team.


If he gets that, good on him. I’ll put my money on 7 x $9 million. Flat cap is whole different world now.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 46
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Don’t sign the best UFA and a top 10 player in the league? That’s a weird thing to not want


If you look at the big contracts around the league that look bad, this theme would come up a lot.

I think this contract is a really bad idea. Gaudreau has been a smidge below point per game, with two huge outlier seasons. Why one area you getting. Given that he’s turning 29 before he plays another NHL hockey game, I’m guessing this season probably isn’t matched. Given taht he weighs 165 pounds, it could look real bad down the stretch. He’s a very good player, but making him the second highest paid player in the league until he’s 36 is indeed a bad idea.

I still think he winds up in philly.
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He is a great player but because of where he plays he is hyped endlessly by the media. Remember a month ago when Toronto was seriously saying he’s better than Connor?


Yeah I heard that too and im a leafs fan and I think Connor is better cuz he is but Matthews 2nd best for sure tho.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 47
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Matthews deserves 12 million? He basically makes it now but after the postseason I’d say he’s slightly overpaid

There’s zero issue with Matthews AAV, which isn’t 12 million. The term was absolutely horrific and one of the biggest mistakes a GM has made this century.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 52
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If you look at the big contracts around the league that look bad, this theme would come up a lot.

I think this contract is a really bad idea. Gaudreau has been a smidge below point per game, with two huge outlier seasons. Why one area you getting. Given that he’s turning 29 before he plays another NHL hockey game, I’m guessing this season probably isn’t matched. Given taht he weighs 165 pounds, it could look real bad down the stretch. He’s a very good player, but making him the second highest paid player in the league until he’s 36 is indeed a bad idea.

I still think he winds up in philly.


And Chicago paying out a huge contract to Hossa at the same age sure was a bad idea by that logic, but I’d take those 3 cups and happily be where they are now. It’s about winning and Johnny is a big game player. The Flames have very few of them too but he is one. Whoever gets him is going to be lucky and the Devils have some really young skilled players. This team is going to be good very soon but the question is how good? Where would Chicago have been without Hossa? We don’t know but I bet their glad they have those 3 cups and he was a huge part of it.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 54
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There’s zero issue with Matthews AAV, which isn’t 12 million. The term was absolutely horrific and one of the biggest mistakes a GM has made this century.


I agree the term was the biggest problem.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 56
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If he gets that, good on him. I’ll put my money on 7 x $9 million. Flat cap is whole different world now.


82.5 million next season. Someone can afford to pay him 8 figures. The NHL never was going to have a 100 million dollar cap right now, a pandemic didn’t change that. They do not have the tv contracts to generate the revenue they dream of having.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 57
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This is definately a thing Devils should consider, but 12 mil aav is a lot. You will need to have that pipeline of ELC set up for years.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 59
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I agree the term was the biggest problem.


Not exactly. Very good reason for 5 year contract. Kept AAV much lower, giving them more cap space to compete. Plus, if he becomes a UFA, he can be extended to an 8 year contract until he's in his age 33/34 season, not his 37/38 season.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 59
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No for me as a Stars fan. Stars need to fill out with ELCs, wood is just another Gurianov, will score some but eat a good bit of cap space even if just signing a qualifying offer. Rather just keep any more logjamming away so they have to play younger players.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 24
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82.5 million next season. Someone can afford to pay him 8 figures. The NHL never was going to have a 100 million dollar cap right now, a pandemic didn’t change that. They do not have the tv contracts to generate the revenue they dream of having.


I didn’t say this year. $100 million by the time Panarin exits his contract. So in 2026.

The trajectory that it was on would have likely put the cap just below $100m. Now, it appears the cap will be $86-87m by that year.

No one has signed an eight-figure deal since pandemic hit. It’s unlikely anyone gets one this year.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 39
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Quoting: CementHead27
Don’t sign the best UFA and a top 10 player in the league? That’s a weird thing to not want

Ask yourself if he’ll be worth that much money in year 3-7 of that deal. His age 32-36 seasons.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 40
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There’s zero issue with Matthews AAV, which isn’t 12 million. The term was absolutely horrific and one of the biggest mistakes a GM has made this century.


He’s also what, 24 or 25?
 
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