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No Letang - Part 1

Créé par: Mr_Gardoki
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2022
Publié: 27 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If Letang doesn't re-sign which I think is the unfortunate reality. Whatever is left in FA will be very difficult to compete with for the Pens financial situation.

CHI Trade - I know Zucker does nothing for you guys, but it's really more of a financial move and it's only for one season.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
32 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
47 000 000 $
54 500 000 $
58 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
55 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
  2. Poulin, Samuel
  3. Zucker, Jason
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Open to tweaking this deal within reason
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
DET
  1. Dumoulin, Brian
Détails additionnels:
Any team
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
Rachats de contrats
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2023
Logo de PIT
Logo de WSH
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de TOR
2024
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Logo de PIT
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $80 641 842 $0 $0 $1 858 158 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 2

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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 24
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Rather sign Manson and put him with Matheson and keep Marino with Pettersson.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 27
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The issue with the CHI trade is that it doesn't fit the consistency of what Kyle Davidson has been saying. He's not looking for KK or Zucker type players. The Hawks are rebuilding and are looking for 1st round pick(s). Otherwise, I doubt it happens.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 29
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The issue with the CHI trade is that it doesn't fit the consistency of what Kyle Davidson has been saying. He's not looking for KK or Zucker type players. The Hawks are rebuilding and are looking for 1st round pick(s). Otherwise, I doubt it happens.


Yeah, that's why I prefaced that about Zucker if you read up top. It's a cap move for the Pens and only a one year investment for you guys. I don't know that you can get a 1st for Murphy, but I don't think it's unrealistic. You're not going to get a 1st for everything. I'm willing to swap out Kap for a different prospect if that makes it better.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 48
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Yeah, that's why I prefaced that about Zucker if you read up top. It's a cap move for the Pens and only a one year investment for you guys. I don't know that you can get a 1st for Murphy, but I don't think it's unrealistic. You're not going to get a 1st for everything. I'm willing to swap out Kap for a different prospect if that makes it better.


TBH, the deal for me seems like an overpay for Murphy, but that being said, he might do OK in Pitt. I also agree that Zucker and Kap are not the type of players the Hawks are looking for, and I think the Pens might be better served by shopping them to a team that would be looking at NHL-ready mid-6 payers. I would be interested in the pick and Poulin as the Hawks forward depth is... not so good. I'd say switch out Zucker with another mid-pick or a complementary style-forward prospect (Like Zahorna, but probably not him, because I think he's probably ready to make the jump, but someone like him) and I would do that deal. I'd just drop Kap from the trade all together, no need to add in a replacement value for him, as I think that deal would be fine for the value of Murph.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 49
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I LOVE this. Only things is I think Forsberg probably gets upwards of 8.5 and if I had to guess he wants more than 5 years
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 51
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TBH, the deal for me seems like an overpay for Murphy, but that being said, he might do OK in Pitt. I also agree that Zucker and Kap are not the type of players the Hawks are looking for, and I think the Pens might be better served by shopping them to a team that would be looking at NHL-ready mid-6 payers. I would be interested in the pick and Poulin as the Hawks forward depth is... not so good. I'd say switch out Zucker with another mid-pick or a complementary style-forward prospect (Like Zahorna, but probably not him, because I think he's probably ready to make the jump, but someone like him) and I would do that deal. I'd just drop Kap from the trade all together, no need to add in a replacement value for him, as I think that deal would be fine for the value of Murph.


Moving Zucker is the problem. I think it's possible to get him completely off the books, but it's going to take a certain situation and this is one that works which is why I made the deal a little better for CHI.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 51
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I LOVE this. Only things is I think Forsberg probably gets upwards of 8.5 and if I had to guess he wants more than 5 years


Yeah, I was just throwing that together. If he wanted $8.5 I'd be able to fix a few things, but I think that's at least in the ballpark.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 53
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I don't think the Hawks are as averse to taking on money on exchange for young players/draft picks as people think. Especially one like this.

The ability to trade Murphy and his remaining deal in exchange for Zucker, who they could probably flip at the deadline for a pick, Poulin, who is still young and a former 1st round pick, and Kapanen, who if you get him at a reasonable deal is fine for depth, and a draft pick next year, would be fine for the Hawks.
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 54
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Yeah, I was just throwing that together. If he wanted $8.5 I'd be able to fix a few things, but I think that's at least in the ballpark.


Based on what Elliott Friedman has sAid on his podcast, it sounds like Nashville has already offered him better than what you have and he declined. I think a team will overpay for him on the open market. I think we could maybe get him at 8.5X7
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 56
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I don't think the Hawks are as averse to taking on money on exchange for young players/draft picks as people think. Especially one like this.

The ability to trade Murphy and his remaining deal in exchange for Zucker, who they could probably flip at the deadline for a pick, Poulin, who is still young and a former 1st round pick, and Kapanen, who if you get him at a reasonable deal is fine for depth, and a draft pick next year, would be fine for the Hawks.


I think it's a pretty fair deal. Zucker can definitely be flipped at the deadline. He's still playing very good hockey. He's just not having scoring luck. For the Pens they just have to manage how they spend their money.
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Based on what Elliott Friedman has sAid on his podcast, it sounds like Nashville has already offered him better than what you have and he declined. I think a team will overpay for him on the open market. I think we could maybe get him at 8.5X7


Again that's fine. It would be an easy tweak to this roster. I could send Zohorna down and change it.
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