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Is This Realistic

Créé par: LukaTAG
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2022
Publié: 27 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
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11 500 000 $
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2750 000 $
33 250 000 $
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45 250 000 $
11 500 000 $
21 250 000 $
2750 000 $
21 750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Malgin, Denis
2800 000 $
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TOR
  1. Gurianov, Denis [Droits de RFA]
DAL
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Mercer, Dawson
  2. Wood, Miles [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
How close is this?
NJD
  1. Muzzin, Jake
  2. Nylander, William
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Hate always trading for Georgiev but it seems like he's a great fit here.
NYR
  1. Abramov, Mikhail
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Just dump these guys, to anywhere.
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800 000 $800 000 $
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27 mai 2022 à 11 h 1
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No, I do not think it is realistic

Not realistic trades, not realistic contracts
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27 mai 2022 à 11 h 4
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Devils dont move Mercer for 8 years of Fiala let alone 2 of Nylander and the injury prone Muzzin
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27 mai 2022 à 11 h 4
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Devils trade isn't really close at all.
There's no point for them to trade a long-term core piece for two years of Nylander, especially when they probably won't be competing for the cup in that timeframe.
Wouldn't rule out Mercer being as good or outright better than Nylaner in two years time either.

Honestly don't see the point in Leafs trading Nylander either, he's a fantastic player on a good aav.
These last two years of Nylander pretty much covers the length of this current window of contention for the Leafs as well.
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27 mai 2022 à 11 h 5
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I actually think this is fairly realistic. Couple of notes:
- I think dumping Mrazek costs more (maybe add a 2nd)
- Trochek probably costs more as a UFA, I'm thinking closer to 6.5 mil

Besides that I think it's alright and Trochek seems like he'd be a great fit for this team if they move Nylander.
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27 mai 2022 à 11 h 9
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Holl has value, don’t need to give up that much for Mrazek either
27 mai 2022 à 11 h 13
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As usual with Toronto threads, it isn't realistic
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27 mai 2022 à 11 h 14
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Buffalo probably declines, I would want a pick this year. Those 2 throw in's really hold no value
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27 mai 2022 à 11 h 17
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Devils aren't trading Mercer. Trochek gets more. Goaltending is weak. Muzzin isn't waiving for NJ. Engvall gets more. I don't know why you'd want Malgin back. Dubie wants more grit. Liljegren and Sandin likely make much less on 2 year deals as Dubie will kick the can down the road. Russian Bear gets more. Zadorov gets more. Sabres don't want Mrazek. I can't see Glass Kase being qualified.
27 mai 2022 à 11 h 22
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The most realistic trade is probably the Rangers in terms of trade value if that's the equivalent of a 2nd and 3rd, but Drury isn't going to move him for a haul like that. There are a lot of teams that need goalies and not too many available on in FAs so he's going to take as long as he can to get a great deal. Igor is great, but doesn't mean he's going to be playing 60-70 games. So they can still use Georgiev to play 25-30 games until he gets the deal he wants or he needs to trade him.
27 mai 2022 à 11 h 23
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Quoting: GMBL
The most realistic trade is probably the Rangers in terms of trade value if that's the equivalent of a 2nd and 3rd, but Drury isn't going to move him for a haul like that. There are a lot of teams that need goalies and not too many available on in FAs so he's going to take as long as he can to get a great deal. Igor is great, but doesn't mean he's going to be playing 60-70 games. So they can still use Georgiev to play 25-30 games until he gets the deal he wants or he needs to trade him.


I think it's really the question if they want to pay him that for how bad he's been for them.
27 mai 2022 à 11 h 29
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I think it's really the question if they want to pay him that for how bad he's been for them.


Yeah, I don't think he fits the profile for what Toronto is rumoured to be looking for if they don't keep Campbell and signing him for that much probably just leads to another Mrazek situation. I think you always want to try goaltenders in Toronto before paying them.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: Salzy
Devils dont move Mercer for 8 years of Fiala let alone 2 of Nylander and the injury prone Muzzin


Bruh you are nuts if you think mercer gets even close to nylander lol
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 5
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The league isnt taking Toronto's cap dumps for free. Use the buy out button
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 12
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Bruh you are nuts if you think mercer gets even close to nylander lol


Mercer has only been in the league for a year and he's an ELC contract and fits the younger offensive core of Jersey. Nylander can just walk way from them in 2 years, they are hardly ready for that so it makes no sense for them to move Mercer for Nylander especially since they would have to add. Mercer's ELC contract gives them cap flexibility to go sign FAs like Nylander who become available while he's still on ELC.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 16
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The league isnt taking Toronto's cap dumps for free. Use the buy out button


Holl has more value than a 7th, and he put 2 prospects and a 3rd. That's hardly "free". Toronto will probably just buy him out if they can't just straight up dump him or add a reasonable sweetner to get rid of him.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 18
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Quoting: Sabresguy1987
Bruh you are nuts if you think mercer gets even close to nylander lol


"Bruh" you are nuts if you think the Devils even entertain the idea of moving Mercer for 2 years of Nylander.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 23
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Quoting: Salzy
"Bruh" you are nuts if you think the Devils even entertain the idea of moving Mercer for 2 years of Nylander.


The man put up 80 points and a point of game in the playoffs, be lucky if mercer is a 50 point guy. save the money you will overpay gaudreu and sign willy to an 8 by 8
27 mai 2022 à 12 h 32
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Quoting: Sabresguy1987
Bruh you are nuts if you think mercer gets even close to nylander lol


A 20-year center coming off a 42-pt rookie season with two more years of ELC left. If he is nuts, I don’t want to be sane.
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 40
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The man put up 80 points and a point of game in the playoffs, be lucky if mercer is a 50 point guy. save the money you will overpay gaudreu and sign willy to an 8 by 8


Mercer put up 42 points as a 20 year old on a bad team, 50 points a year isnt even close to his ceiling. Its okay to admit you dont know about players, calling someone nuts when you clearly havent paid close attention to how good mercer is just makes that clear
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27 mai 2022 à 12 h 45
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Quoting: Sabresguy1987
The man put up 80 points and a point of game in the playoffs, be lucky if mercer is a 50 point guy. save the money you will overpay gaudreu and sign willy to an 8 by 8


What if Nylander puts up 100pts on Jersey next year? He's not signing 8 for 8. All you are saying is that they shouldn't sign an expensive forward in UFA this season and stay course. Maybe they go sign the guys leaving Tampa for 4-6m instead.
27 mai 2022 à 14 h 22
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Quoting: Salzy
Mercer put up 42 points as a 20 year old on a bad team, 50 points a year isnt even close to his ceiling. Its okay to admit you dont know about players, calling someone nuts when you clearly havent paid close attention to how good mercer is just makes that clear


Guess we will have to wait and see, I predict mercer doesnt hit 80 ever in his career. Remind me about this bet in 15 years
27 mai 2022 à 20 h 8
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Quoting: Salzy
Mercer put up 42 points as a 20 year old on a bad team, 50 points a year isnt even close to his ceiling. Its okay to admit you dont know about players, calling someone nuts when you clearly havent paid close attention to how good mercer is just makes that clear


Mercer also played 3rd line minutes for most of last year
He could get 50+ easily if he plays next to Hughes next year
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27 mai 2022 à 20 h 8
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Quoting: Sabresguy1987
The man put up 80 points and a point of game in the playoffs, be lucky if mercer is a 50 point guy. save the money you will overpay gaudreu and sign willy to an 8 by 8


Tell me you have no clue what you're talking about without telling me you have no clue what you're talking
30 mai 2022 à 9 h 12
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Quoting: Devil
Tell me you have no clue what you're talking about without telling me you have no clue what you're talking


This is absolutely ridiciulous in my opinion to compare nylander to mercer... I get player control but come on now... big difference between 40 point guy and 80
 
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