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what is Joel Edmundsons value

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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 25 mai 2022
Publié: 25 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
couple of trades of varying values for Joel Edmundson. not necessarily my idea of his worth but a bit of a spectrum. where do you think his value is? whats your best offer for him either straight up or in a package? I'm personally a big fan of the NYR trade, I think that one is pretty alright
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edmundson, joel
23 500 000 $
edmundson, joel
23 500 000 $
edmundson, joel
23 500 000 $
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MTL
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
2.
MTL
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. Skinner, Stuart
Détails additionnels:
i know this trade is still TERRIBLE for edmonton, massive L... BUT turbo kenny holland is the same man that traded bear and jones so he could have duncan keith and extend tyson barrie. the man just has no clue about defence. also jumbo joel is a great room guy AND has size, the wet dream of the boys club. allen is very good too, he will (should) become the defacto starter for the oilers, so at least they get something from this one
EDM
  1. edmundson, joel
  2. Allen, Jake
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
3.
MTL
  1. Donskoi, Joonas
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
SEA
  1. edmundson, joel
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
NJD
  1. edmundson, joel
Détails additionnels:
this one happens on draft day.
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1681 500 000 $62 932 916 $1 132 500 $1 570 000 $18 567 084 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
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UFA - 3
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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25 mai 2022 à 12 h 24
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I would cry if Holland did that. Bouchard is way too good to trade!
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25 mai 2022 à 12 h 27
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
I would cry if Holland did that. Bouchard is way too good to trade!


I so agree, another year like this one and the lie between him and Nurse is getting thin. future #1 D on the way, he plays the right side too, literally a dream come true in players form.
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25 mai 2022 à 12 h 30
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He's our next captain so why trade him?
25 mai 2022 à 12 h 30
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Quoting: Joey_mar_cur
I so agree, another year like this one and the lie between him and Nurse is getting thin. future #1 D on the way, he plays the right side too, literally a dream come true in players form.


It is a dream come true! His offensive game is off the charts, his defensive game is very good too. The main thing he needs to work on is turn overs, but he’s getting better at it, and most of the time he fixes his mistakes! His slap shot is probably one of the best in the league too. I hope we never trade him!
25 mai 2022 à 12 h 39
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He's our next captain so why trade him?


if I don't get to see gally wear the C I will actually lose my mind, he is the heart and soul of the team. even though he sucks and is massively overpaid, Gally needs the C. furthermore, I would imagine he has pretty high value. in my mid he's one of our better contracts too, only 3.5 for a player like him is a steal.
25 mai 2022 à 12 h 41
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Probably a 1st + B prospects
But MTL arent trading him
25 mai 2022 à 12 h 53
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So you mad a bad trade with the Oilers because you believe Holland would make that trade? What valuable pieces did Holland give up to get Keith or Kulak?
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25 mai 2022 à 12 h 55
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I think he could go for a 2nd straight up, but I also doubt the Habs are looking to trade him for "fair value".
25 mai 2022 à 12 h 59
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Why trade him now? Wait for 2024 trade deadline and trade him for same return as Chiarot.
25 mai 2022 à 13 h 9
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The Edmonton trade is just plain silly. There's no excuse for that.
25 mai 2022 à 13 h 9
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If chiarot value is a 1st then is Edmonster and even more ... take out the two first and this is the closest deal in all your offer !!
25 mai 2022 à 13 h 10
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Do you really think Allen would become the Oilers starter on merit? Have you not been paying attention at all?
25 mai 2022 à 13 h 23
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Wouldn't want Devils to trade for Edmundsson.
Don't think he's better than any of Siegenthaler, Smith or Graves.
25 mai 2022 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: LloydminsterLarry
So you mad a bad trade with the Oilers because you believe Holland would make that trade? What valuable pieces did Holland give up to get Keith or Kulak?


its not even about valuable pieces, giving up literally anything for Keith is a loss. could've been kassian for Keith straight up and it would still be an oilers loss
25 mai 2022 à 13 h 40
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Maybe a 3rd and a 5th
25 mai 2022 à 13 h 41
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Kravtsov is worth far more than this
25 mai 2022 à 14 h 10
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its not even about valuable pieces, giving up literally anything for Keith is a loss. could've been kassian for Keith straight up and it would still be an oilers loss


Ok that is ridiculous. Keith has provided much needed leadership to this team and has played his part in getting this team to go from pretender to contender.
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25 mai 2022 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: LloydminsterLarry
Ok that is ridiculous. Keith has provided much needed leadership to this team and has played his part in getting this team to go from pretender to contender.


played his role by holding the oilers back maybe. nothing that anybody could say will ever justify that trade. even if the oilers luck their way into a cup this offseason it will still be a lost trade. just about every single metric tells you that duncan keith is bad at hockey. he had almost twice the giveaways when compared to his takeaways, had a negative GAx, had an on ice XG EIGHT POINTS lower than off ice XG. his defence was awful, his offence was worse, he's a terrible person, and he is not an NHLer anymore. no amount of "intangibles" will ever change that.
25 mai 2022 à 14 h 35
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played his role by holding the oilers back maybe. nothing that anybody could say will ever justify that trade. even if the oilers luck their way into a cup this offseason it will still be a lost trade. just about every single metric tells you that duncan keith is bad at hockey. he had almost twice the giveaways when compared to his takeaways, had a negative GAx, had an on ice XG EIGHT POINTS lower than off ice XG. his defence was awful, his offence was worse, he's a terrible person, and he is not an NHLer anymore. no amount of "intangibles" will ever change that.


I do not care in the least about “metrics”. They are pointless and have no impact on the game.
25 mai 2022 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: Joey_mar_cur
played his role by holding the oilers back maybe. nothing that anybody could say will ever justify that trade. even if the oilers luck their way into a cup this offseason it will still be a lost trade. just about every single metric tells you that duncan keith is bad at hockey. he had almost twice the giveaways when compared to his takeaways, had a negative GAx, had an on ice XG EIGHT POINTS lower than off ice XG. his defence was awful, his offence was worse, he's a terrible person, and he is not an NHLer anymore. no amount of "intangibles" will ever change that.

Your "stats" are incorrect. http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=r&team=EDM&pos=D&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL
25 mai 2022 à 22 h 52
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I used regular season stats, nontheless there's no use in arguing numbers dictate that Duncan Keith is terrible lol he just sucks
 
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