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Créé par: ChrisNapoleon
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 23 mai 2022
Publié: 23 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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In the Calgary deal: Kylington doesn't have to be in the deal, it could be just Mangiapane; as well as that we could get a RD in free agency
In the Kraken deal: I think it'll get some more picks if they retain salary
In the Washington deal: Adding in Hathaway would make Washington's cap problem better after adding on Varly
Nothing to say about the Boston deal
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  1. Kylington, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
  2. Mangiapane, Andrew [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Holmström, Simon
  3. Mayfield, Scott
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  5. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
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NYI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (SEA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
SEA
  1. Bailey, Josh (1 000 000 $ retained)
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NYI
  1. Hathaway, Garnet
  2. Vanecek, Vitek [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
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BOS
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
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23 mai 2022 à 17 h 31
#51
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Quoting: Db1899
I'm saying Josi is a great two way defenseman at even strength, but PK is different than defending at even strength . He's just not good at PK, takes too many risks and gives up too many shots.

Reilly isn't elite. He's a solid puck moving two way defenseman. He's a #4 caliber defenseman.


Idk how much time he’s spent on the PK, but I would assume a talent of his caliber could figure out how to kill penalties if he had too. Can’t accept that excuse from depth guys imo.
23 mai 2022 à 17 h 33
#52
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Quoting: Db1899
I'm saying Josi is a great two way defenseman at even strength, but PK is different than defending at even strength . He's just not good at PK, takes too many risks and gives up too many shots.

Reilly isn't elite. He's a solid puck moving two way defenseman. He's a #4 caliber defenseman.


Oliver Klyington cleared waivers at one point, I think when u start looking to acquire middle of the lineup guys u need to look for guys who can take that next step. Trading for established veterans with a history of being Middle of the lineup guys hasn’t worked for the isles so far.
23 mai 2022 à 17 h 38
#53
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Quoting: Db1899
I'm saying Josi is a great two way defenseman at even strength, but PK is different than defending at even strength . He's just not good at PK, takes too many risks and gives up too many shots.

Reilly isn't elite. He's a solid puck moving two way defenseman. He's a #4 caliber defenseman.


Also IK we have discussed Bailey before, so it’s worth mentioning that Kurz put this in his mailbag today.

Is there a team out there that you think would take on Josh Bailey? Would the Isles get anything in return or would they have to give up additional assets to get someone to take him? He’s still a solid middle-six player. This isn’t an Andrew Ladd situation. — Jonathan W.

I touched on what I think of Bailey in the last mailbag (shockingly there were questions then, too, about whether the Islanders should trade him). But I’ll repeat that I have little doubt that there would be teams interested in him should he become available, even though his $5 million salary is a bit inflated. That contract now has just two seasons remaining, making it a bit more palatable.

This year’s Stanley Cup playoffs so far have offered a reminder of just how valuable a player like Bailey can be, because when you look at teams like Dallas, Edmonton and Calgary, especially, all of them have depth issues up front. Bailey is still a responsible two-way player that has a tendency to raise his game in the playoffs, and that’s a big reason I think there’s a very strong possibility he’s wearing another uniform in the fall. And, no, it wouldn’t just be a salary dump. I think the Islanders could get at least a serviceable player in return while also clearing some cap space for a potential high-end free-agent forward to help replace him.
23 mai 2022 à 17 h 41
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Reilly is a great puck mover, hes pretty good at generating offense and hes not a liability defensively. That's why a lot of isles fans want to trade for him.


Isles fans need to watch more of Reilly. He's not great in his own zone and routinely failed to clear pucks out of the zone
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23 mai 2022 à 17 h 51
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Quoting: Islanders6187
Oliver Klyington cleared waivers at one point, I think when u start looking to acquire middle of the lineup guys u need to look for guys who can take that next step. Trading for established veterans with a history of being Middle of the lineup guys hasn’t worked for the isles so far.


that would IMO require a stronger pro scouting + talent identification staff than the islanders seem to have at this point in time.

i don't love reilly (if the isles were to get any of the lefties from boston i have a strong preference for gryzelcyk) but i do like the relatively low acquisition cost. IMO a guy like chychrun, who's obviously the sexy choice, is not good enough to justify the massive asking price. but the UFA class is very lackluster, so they're going to need to find a guy via trade. the biggest issue with their big middle six acquisitions has been giving up first rounders for them and then 5mil contracts to boot. giving up a third for a guy to play on your second pair for 3mil is perfectly reasonable imo
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23 mai 2022 à 17 h 58
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I wouldn’t target Chychrun either. Soucy would be a nice target if u can extend and trade.
23 mai 2022 à 17 h 58
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Quoting: bagelbob
that would IMO require a stronger pro scouting + talent identification staff than the islanders seem to have at this point in time.

i don't love reilly (if the isles were to get any of the lefties from boston i have a strong preference for gryzelcyk) but i do like the relatively low acquisition cost. IMO a guy like chychrun, who's obviously the sexy choice, is not good enough to justify the massive asking price. but the UFA class is very lackluster, so they're going to need to find a guy via trade. the biggest issue with their big middle six acquisitions has been giving up first rounders for them and then 5mil contracts to boot. giving up a third for a guy to play on your second pair for 3mil is perfectly reasonable imo


Maybe you make a trade for someone younger like Bean or Stanley. Someone who can still grow as a player.
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 2
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Quoting: bagelbob
that would IMO require a stronger pro scouting + talent identification staff than the islanders seem to have at this point in time.

i don't love reilly (if the isles were to get any of the lefties from boston i have a strong preference for gryzelcyk) but i do like the relatively low acquisition cost. IMO a guy like chychrun, who's obviously the sexy choice, is not good enough to justify the massive asking price. but the UFA class is very lackluster, so they're going to need to find a guy via trade. the biggest issue with their big middle six acquisitions has been giving up first rounders for them and then 5mil contracts to boot. giving up a third for a guy to play on your second pair for 3mil is perfectly reasonable imo


We saw Garth find guys for free. Unless Barry benched their pro scouting department along with Wally then there isn’t any excuse to not being able to scout pro level talent. Don’t know how we can talk about the isles competing if they can’t identify cheap talent the way teams like Colorado and Florida can.
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 33
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If u can’t penalty kill as a d man how valuable can u be?


Guys have won the Norris without being able to kill penalties.
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 33
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He did , but 55 min is a small sample size


No. He didn’t. He’s a bad penalty killer.
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23 mai 2022 à 18 h 45
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Guys have won the Norris without being able to kill penalties.


You are talking about all time great offensive defenseman and Mike Reilly isn’t that guy.
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 53
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Vanecek is not worth more than Varly***


Yes he is. There’s no reason to pickup varlamov over Vanecek. And you aren’t also getting a cheap bottom 6 winger and a second on top of him. Vanecek is cheaper, younger, and had just as good a season as varlamov if not better.

Vanecek:

20-12-6 with 4 shutouts. .908 SV and 2.67GAA

Varlamov:

10-17-2 with 2 shutouts. .912 SV and 2.88 GAA

Sorry but I’m taking Vanecek all day.
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 53
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You are talking about all time great offensive defenseman and Mike Reilly isn’t that guy.


No, I’m talking about your previous comment. Asked and answered.
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 53
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Quoting: brady_t12
Yes he is. There’s no reason to pickup varlamov over Vanecek. And you aren’t also getting a cheap bottom 6 winger and a second on top of him. Vanecek is cheaper, younger, and had just as good a season as varlamov if not better.

Vanecek:

20-12-6 with 4 shutouts. .908 SV and 2.67GAA

Varlamov:

10-17-2 with 2 shutouts. .912 SV and 2.88 GAA

Sorry but I’m taking Vanecek all day.


Did Vanecek get you to two back to back conference finals?
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 54
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Did Vanecek get you to two back to back conference finals?


If you’re talking about 2020 when he wasn’t in the NHL and 2021 when he was injured, no he didn’t. The team sucked in front of him. Trotz is a good coach. Vanecek is worth more than varlamov at this point. Look where got you this year, bud.
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 56
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If you’re talking about 2020 when he wasn’t in the NHL and 2021 when he was injured, no he didn’t. The team sucked in front of him. Trotz is a good coach. Vanecek is worth more than varlamov at this point. Look where got you this year, bud.


i cannot describe the extent to which the goaltending was not the issue on the islanders this year. the goaltending was the only reason the team finished as high in the standings as they did.
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23 mai 2022 à 18 h 57
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If you’re talking about 2020 when he wasn’t in the NHL and 2021 when he was injured, no he didn’t. The team sucked in front of him. Trotz is a good coach. Vanecek is worth more than varlamov at this point. Look where got you this year, bud.


All we need is Nick Leddy and ur back to the bottom of the division bud Lmao
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 57
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i cannot describe the extent to which the goaltending was not the issue on the islanders this year. the goaltending was the only reason the team finished as high in the standings as they did.


And that’s fine. But literally the argument he made was “Vanecek isn’t good enough to get you to back to back finals” which shows his ignorance.
23 mai 2022 à 18 h 59
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All we need is Nick Leddy and ur back to the bottom of the division bud Lmao


20 points out of the playoffs. Gonna take a bit more than Nick Leddy, kid.
23 mai 2022 à 19 h 0
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We saw Garth find guys for free. Unless Barry benched their pro scouting department along with Wally then there isn’t any excuse to not being able to scout pro level talent. Don’t know how we can talk about the isles competing if they can’t identify cheap talent the way teams like Colorado and Florida can.


i 100% agree with your last sentence, i just haven’t seen it from lou since he’s been here. lehner is really the only one i can think of, and idk how much credit you give lou for that as opposed to barry/korn/greco. i like parise a lot but i’m not giving lou credit for “finding” him as cheap talent (maybe in 2003, but not 2021). that pro scouting dept is definitely getting a huge test this offseason, one they failed last year in sticking with greene + chara.
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23 mai 2022 à 19 h 7
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Quoting: brady_t12
20 points out of the playoffs. Gonna take a bit more than Nick Leddy, kid.


Leddy is the only difference from last year, kid. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
23 mai 2022 à 19 h 8
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Quoting: brady_t12
20 points out of the playoffs. Gonna take a bit more than Nick Leddy, kid.


Capitals r in steep decline and the isles have two young superstars on the rise, they weren’t supposed to be in the conference finals the past couple years. I’m not remotely concerned.
23 mai 2022 à 22 h 12
#73
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Quoting: Db1899
I'm saying Josi is a great two way defenseman at even strength, but PK is different than defending at even strength . He's just not good at PK, takes too many risks and gives up too many shots.

Reilly isn't elite. He's a solid puck moving two way defenseman. He's a #4 caliber defenseman.


You watching Nick Leddy? 😂😂😂
23 mai 2022 à 22 h 13
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Isles fans need to watch more of Reilly. He's not great in his own zone and routinely failed to clear pucks out of the zone


Thx for your honesty. I dont like him either.
23 mai 2022 à 23 h 30
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You watching Nick Leddy? 😂😂😂


Yeah he’s been terrible lol
 
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