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Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 23 mai 2022
Publié: 23 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TOR
  1. Hart, Carter
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Too much? Too little? Could it happen? What pieces needed?
PHI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1882 499 999 $78 634 616 $212 500 $0 $3 865 383 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 2
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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23 mai 2022 à 9 h 15
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Too much. If I am Philly, 2 firsts alone id probably run with it. a first and Kallgren, maybe...
This deal you have here, you should toss in Mrazek as well to the deal to even it out more. Heres your chance to move him.
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 17
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Hart has been awful for 2 years, not even close for Toronto
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 18
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Philly takes that and runs.
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 19
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Leafs are win now mode, we don't need a goalie that still needs a few years to develop
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 20
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hart not that much better than campbell
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 21
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Quoting: PredsWingsFan
Too much. If I am Philly, 2 firsts alone id probably run with it. a first and Kallgren, maybe...
This deal you have here, you should toss in Mrazek as well to the deal to even it out more. Heres your chance to move him.


I think, from an actual value part, you're not wrong, but from a Philly spot, you've basically got a long term goaltender, with a ton of control left, and he's only 23. I mean, I'd have to be drastically overpaid to move him. A couple of late 1sts likely never replace Hart, and I don't know that Robertson would be a particular need at this point.
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 24
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Philly takes that and runs.
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Too much. If I am Philly, 2 firsts alone id probably run with it. a first and Kallgren, maybe...
This deal you have here, you should toss in Mrazek as well to the deal to even it out more. Heres your chance to move him.


What about this. Nylander and Mrazek + 2nd for Hart and Farabee.
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 25
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What about this. Nylander and Mrazek + 2nd for Hart and Farabee.


No, not even close.
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 26
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hart not that much better than campbell


I think he can be the Leafs long term goalie of the future, philly has had a very toxic environment for a young goalie for the past two years. Have a tandem of something like hart and raanta and run that.
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 26
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No, not even close.


from which side?
23 mai 2022 à 9 h 57
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Way too much for a mediocre goalie, but I doubt Philly would be inclined to move him anyway
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 8
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you can very much tell that everyone in this comment section looks at base statistics soley. just for reference, here was the flyers defensive pairings through the last few games

Provorov (severe regression) - Attard (young AHL dman, middle of the line d prospect, still raw)
Hogberg (young AHL dman with little upside) - Sanheim
Yandle (worst defenseman in the NHL) - Zamula (raw AHL dman but has lots of upside)
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 8
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23 mai 2022 à 10 h 8
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23 mai 2022 à 10 h 9
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Way too much. Beside, the cap issue is still there. Just sign Campbell, buyout Mrzarfek and keep the picks, and the Leafs would be much better off in cap and futures.
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 10
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Hart has been crap on the NHL level. This is too much to pay for him. Replace one of the 1st with Mrazek and then I’d consider it.
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 11
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Philly takes that and runs.


we reject lol we arent taking two late firsts that wont be anything in exchange for the best goalie weve had since hextall
sk540 a aimé ceci.
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 13
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Quoting: Sicksi
we reject lol we arent taking two late firsts that wont be anything in exchange for the best goalie weve had since hextall


Yeah right. Carter Hart is a star. What was I thinking?
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 15
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Way too much. Beside, the cap issue is still there. Just sign Campbell, buyout Mrzarfek and keep the picks, and the Leafs would be much better off in cap and futures.


Sounds like Campbell is gone. He's looking for a retirement contract. I can't see Dubas paying it. Campbell's agent is Kurt Overhardt. He doesn't do discounts.
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 23
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Sounds like Campbell is gone. He's looking for a retirement contract. I can't see Dubas paying it. Campbell's agent is Kurt Overhardt. He doesn't do discounts.


By the post suggestedt....he had 3.9m Hart and 3.8m Mrzarek on the team. A total of 7.7m. I would rather have 5.5m Campbell, 750,000 Kallgren and 1m buyout of Mrzarek off 7.25m and keep the picks.

But I agree with you, Leafs can't afford Campbell, unless they trade away with no cap coming back Nylander. But that idea has met so much derision from CF Leaf followings, who think Nylander is untouchable and Campbell with a discount for the love the Leafs.....yeah right.
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 25
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hart has been terrible last 2 years. i dont see that happening from the leafs side.
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 25
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A second at best is what I’d pay him now
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 28
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By the post suggestedt....he had 3.9m Hart and 3.8m Mrzarek on the team. A total of 7.7m. I would rather have 5.5m Campbell, 750,000 Kallgren and 1m buyout of Mrzarek off 7.25m and keep the picks.

But I agree with you, Leafs can't afford Campbell, unless they trade away with no cap coming back Nylander. But that idea has met so much derision from CF Leaf followings, who think Nylander is untouchable and Campbell with a discount for the love the Leafs.....yeah right.


I think Nylander should be traded. Not given away mind you. But Dubie has to get away from his "shiny toy syndrome." Trading Willie can address other needs on the team.
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 48
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Sounds like Campbell is gone. He's looking for a retirement contract. I can't see Dubas paying it. Campbell's agent is Kurt Overhardt. He doesn't do discounts.


Quoting: palhal
By the post suggestedt....he had 3.9m Hart and 3.8m Mrzarek on the team. A total of 7.7m. I would rather have 5.5m Campbell, 750,000 Kallgren and 1m buyout of Mrzarek off 7.25m and keep the picks.

But I agree with you, Leafs can't afford Campbell, unless they trade away with no cap coming back Nylander. But that idea has met so much derision from CF Leaf followings, who think Nylander is untouchable and Campbell with a discount for the love the Leafs.....yeah right.


campbell will get market value theres what 3 starting caliber goalies in free agency right now? i have campbell at a markstrom esq contract. something like 5.5-6 x 6. someone might get desperate and reach for 6.5 but thats an overpay tbh.

leafs wont have a difficult time getting the cap for campbell, sandin, etc. someone will take on mrazek for a pick. there will be plenty of space. the only problem is depth is going to be tough. youll need robertson to produce. or find another bunting.
23 mai 2022 à 10 h 50
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campbell will get market value theres what 3 starting caliber goalies in free agency right now? i have campbell at a markstrom esq contract. something like 5.5-6 x 6. someone might get desperate and reach for 6.5 but thats an overpay tbh.

leafs wont have a difficult time getting the cap for campbell, sandin, etc. someone will take on mrazek for a pick. there will be plenty of space. the only problem is depth is going to be tough. youll need robertson to produce. or find another bunting.


Leafs can open up cap space to sign Campbell. But I don't think they want to pay him Markstrom money. JC will get his money in UFA. Ullmark got 5 mil from Boston last summer.
 
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