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Créé par: odyssey
Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2022
Publié: 22 mai 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Liljegren, Timothy22 200 000 $
Sandin, Rasmus21 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Lyubushkin, Ilya31 500 000 $
Comrie, Eric1900 000 $
Palat, Ondrej26 450 000 $
Paul, Nicholas22 050 000 $
Domi, Max22 550 000 $
Marchment, Mason23 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. 2022 2e round pick (VGK)
assuming he will waive his NTC, to a team that can contend for a late second
VGK
  1. Muzzin, Jake
2.
TOR
  1. 2023 3e round pick (VAN)
to a team in need of RD, a third isnt to much because dermott got a third. dosent have to be the canucks, just a team in need of a cheap RD
VAN
  1. Holl, Justin
3.
TOR
  1. Stolarz, Anthony
Détails additionnels:
leafs flip a second they got from muzzin to get a goalie who is yet to break out.
which is what they are looking for according to Elliot Friedman (he also thinks they could trade for gibson)
ANA
  1. 2022 2e round pick (VGK)
4.
TOR
  1. 2022 3e round pick (SEA)
  2. 2023 4e round pick (WPG)
SEA
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
Détails additionnels:
free up some cap for a better LW
5.
TOR
    future considerations
    SJS
    1. Kressler, Braeden
    2. Mrázek, Petr
    3. 2022 3e round pick (WPG)
    4. 2023 3e round pick (TOR)
    Détails additionnels:
    two thirds and a B prospect to take on some cap and maybe have a backup if he stays healthy
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    2382 500 000 $81 974 783 $212 500 $0 $525 217 $
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    Bunting, Michael
    950 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
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    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
    C
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    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
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    UFA - 3
    Marchment, Mason
    3 000 000 $
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    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
    C
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    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
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    Robertson, Nicholas
    796 667 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    Domi, Max
    2 550 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA
    Palat, Ondrej
    6 450 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA
    Paul, Nicholas
    2 050 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA
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    Kämpf, David
    1 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    Simmonds, Wayne
    900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Abruzzese, Nick
    850 000 $
    C
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    Rielly, Morgan
    7 500 000 $
    DG
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    Lyubushkin, Ilya
    1 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA
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    Stolarz, Anthony
    950 000 $
    G
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    Sandin, Rasmus
    1 800 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA
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    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
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    Comrie, Eric
    900 000 $
    G
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    Giordano, Mark
    800 000 $
    DG
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    Liljegren, Timothy
    2 200 000 $
    DD
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    Källgren, Erik
    750 000 $
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    Král, Filip
    810 000 $
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    Clifford, Kyle
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    22 mai à 17 h 38
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    Sharks decline, add at least a 1st and maybe they consider.
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    22 mai à 17 h 39
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    I agree, Spezza needs to go home to play his final days as a Sen. Help their young core and retire as a Sen.
    22 mai à 17 h 40
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    Quoting: glarson17
    Sharks decline, add at least a 1st and maybe they consider.


    you are high. andrew ladd didnt even get that much when he was dumped. also mraxek can be thrown onto ltir because hes injured. if the sharks are rebuilding. getting two picks and a prospect is a good return.
    leafs traded ritchie and a second and got a top 4 D man back.
    22 mai à 17 h 40
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    San Jose already had 3 goalies for next year (Reimer/Kahkonen/Adin Hill) - why are they acquiring a 4th?

    Vegas is in cap hell, no way they take on Jake Muzzin at any cost. I don't think there are many teams willing to put up a 2nd rounder for him when there younger & cheaper options available in trade (also don't forget Muzzin has a full NTC.)

    Holl & Kerfoot values are fine. I could see the Ducks biting on that deal, but I'd be extremely wary of trying to make a cup run with a goalie that has 62 career starts to his name at 27 years old. If you're going to make that move, I think you need a better backup situation than what you have hear - take some of that cap you spent on Comrie and get a veteran who can step up just in case.

    Also I think you're lowballing Lyubushkin here - why would he sign on for the exact same salary after he had, by all accounts, a fine season? Same with Nick Paul - I can't see him only getting a 2x$2.05M deal this summer after how good he has played for Tampa.
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    22 mai à 17 h 41
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    Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
    I agree, Spezza needs to go home to play his final days as a Sen. Help their young core and retire as a Sen.


    he said he only wants to play for Toronto that is his home. better the kerfoot.
    22 mai à 17 h 44
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    Quoting: odyssey
    you are high. andrew ladd didnt even get that much when he was dumped. also mraxek can be thrown onto ltir because hes injured. if the sharks are rebuilding. getting two picks and a prospect is a good return.
    leafs traded ritchie and a second and got a top 4 D man back.


    Two late 3rd and some random dude you think is a fair trade to dump $7.6 mil over two years? Marleau was $6.25 mil cap dump and was dumped for a 1st. You are significantly low balling here.
    22 mai à 17 h 44
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    Quoting: Giakki
    he said he only wants to play for Toronto that is his home. better the kerfoot.


    I guess he retires just 5 points away from 1'000, that's too bad, Dubas should not bring him back.
    22 mai à 17 h 44
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    Quoting: Giakki
    he said he only wants to play for Toronto that is his home. better the kerfoot.


    no the leafs arent signing spezz, so id say hes going to retire now. they are going to fill up the bottom 6 with bigger players
    22 mai à 17 h 46
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    Quoting: glarson17
    Two late 3rd and some random dude you think is a fair trade to dump $7.6 mil over two years? Marleau was $6.25 mil cap dump and was dumped for a 1st. You are significantly low balling here.


    its 3.8 a year. marleau was traded with over 6 million per. Ladd went with 5.3 for a 2nd and a third to a team that was rebuilding. to get two thirds and a prospect ion a rebuilding team is fair
    22 mai à 17 h 49
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    I guess he retires just 5 points away from 1'000, that's too bad, Dubas should not bring him back.


    even if they brought him back for one game at league min then threw him on ltir when he retires would be a nice touch
    22 mai à 17 h 54
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    Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
    I guess he retires just 5 points away from 1'000, that's too bad, Dubas should not bring him back.


    if we talking about spezza being an most important think Dubass does then dont even bother playing the season
    22 mai à 17 h 58
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    Quoting: odyssey
    its 3.8 a year. marleau was traded with over 6 million per. Ladd went with 5.3 for a 2nd and a third to a team that was rebuilding. to get two thirds and a prospect ion a rebuilding team is fair


    Ladd went to a team that needed contracts and cap to hit the floor. Marleau had one year left at $6.25 mil. Mrazek has more cap left and the sharks have zero need to take on contracts or more cap. You want them to take him you have to pay a fair price not a discount to a team with cap issues and 3 goaltenders already. You can make it worth it or keep your own terrible contracts
    22 mai à 18 h 14
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    Just what Vegas needs....more cap. More fantasy about Muzzin being traded. I like Kerfoot but a non playoff team isn't giving up two picks for a on year rental.
    22 mai à 18 h 20
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    No to Holl for me personally. He is not a good RHD. I'm sure there are better options than him.
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    22 mai à 18 h 33
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    No to Holl for me personally. He is not a good RHD. I'm sure there are better options than him.

    sadin and liligreen way better
    22 mai à 18 h 39
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    Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
    I agree, Spezza needs to go home to play his final days as a Sen. Help their young core and retire as a Sen.


    My bet is he'll have a non player role lined up for next season in Toronto. I'd take him back in Ottawa, but he's where he wants to be.

    Alfie is the guy the Sens need to mend fences with. He's the Ottawa guy to his core. It's already started in the wake of Melynk's passing, but they need to make that reunion official. Make him the AGM now so he's got the experience to take over when the new ownership comes in and fires everyone.
    22 mai à 20 h 56
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    Quoting: palhal
    Just what Vegas needs....more cap. More fantasy about Muzzin being traded. I like Kerfoot but a non playoff team isn't giving up two picks for a on year rental.


    Muzzin is the latest leaf fantasy that his 5.6m will disappear to anyone they want to foist him onto
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    22 mai à 21 h 12
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    Quoting: glarson17
    Ladd went to a team that needed contracts and cap to hit the floor. Marleau had one year left at $6.25 mil. Mrazek has more cap left and the sharks have zero need to take on contracts or more cap. You want them to take him you have to pay a fair price not a discount to a team with cap issues and 3 goaltenders already. You can make it worth it or keep your own terrible contracts


    two thirds and a B prospect is a fair price. again look at the cap dump trades made in the past
    22 mai à 21 h 16
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    Quoting: odyssey
    two thirds and a B prospect is a fair price. again look at the cap dump trades made in the past


    I literally just gave an example of someone with less cap going for a 1st. So no it’s not fair.
    22 mai à 21 h 24
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    I literally just gave an example of someone with less cap going for a 1st. So no it’s not fair.


    again. yotes fans werte looking for a first and a third. they gave up lyubushkin for ritchie. seyying yourself up for dissapointment
     
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