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22 mai 2022 à 11 h 41
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That Jeannot trade is terrible for the Predators. They wouldn't even consider it. Trading the rookie leader in goals and one of the best goaltending prospects out there for William Nylander alone is something that just wouldn't happen.
22 mai 2022 à 11 h 46
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Make it liljegren instead of Robertson in the garland deal
22 mai 2022 à 11 h 53
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Lmao just slipping Askarov in like a kid slipping a chocolate bar into the cart while shopping with their parents.
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22 mai 2022 à 12 h 19
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Make it liljegren instead of Robertson in the garland deal


Liljegren is worth more than Garland, I wouldn't move Kerfoot alone for Garland. He's a middle 6 winger making 1.5 more a year than Kerfoot with less production. Keep him. He's a bad contract.
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22 mai 2022 à 12 h 21
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That Jeannot trade is terrible for the Predators. They wouldn't even consider it. Trading the rookie leader in goals and one of the best goaltending prospects out there for William Nylander alone is something that just wouldn't happen.


Askarov is a good prospect but a goalie so who knows what he'll become. The rookie goal scoring leader had a couple more than the 2nd place guy but was 20 off the point scoring pace. He's also 24 and has one good season under his belt. He's just today's it girl. He's a depth forward. That is not in any way close to a point a game star player. The jeannot love is ridiculous
22 mai 2022 à 12 h 23
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Lmao just slipping Askarov in like a kid slipping a chocolate bar into the cart while shopping with their parents.


I wouldn't say it's slipped in there. Goalies are crap shoots. He could flame out easily enough, it's so hard to predict goalies. Nylander though is a point a game player in his prime. That is extremely valuable. Definitely worth more than a 24 year old with a 20 goal season under his belt. Askarov makes it interesting but I would wager Nashville wins this trade unless Askarov turns into the next Vasi
22 mai 2022 à 12 h 26
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I wouldn't say it's slipped in there. Goalies are crap shoots. He could flame out easily enough, it's so hard to predict goalies. Nylander though is a point a game player in his prime. That is extremely valuable. Definitely worth more than a 24 year old with a 20 goal season under his belt. Askarov makes it interesting but I would wager Nashville wins this trade unless Askarov turns into the next Vasi


Jeannette could easily be a david Clarkson or matt belesky type guy. Askarov would be a huge wildcard and in no means do I think Jeannot will match nylander at any pt in his career. The trade was more about gaining cap and grabbing an actual goaltending prospect.
Whether you add something on either side I don't feel this is my toronto bias.
22 mai 2022 à 12 h 27
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Askarov is a good prospect but a goalie so who knows what he'll become. The rookie goal scoring leader had a couple more than the 2nd place guy but was 20 off the point scoring pace. He's also 24 and has one good season under his belt. He's just today's it girl. He's a depth forward. That is not in any way close to a point a game star player. The jeannot love is ridiculous


Not really if you looked at how Jeannot played last year I thought that he could potentially become the player he was this year. Sure, he's definitely not a star, but look at his play and you see that most nights he is one of the most noticeable players on the ice. He plays well in his own end and just overall affects the game. Askarov is goalie prospect that everyone is till unsure about, but he was a high first and probably hasn't lost any of that value to the Preds. I just don't see it happening.
22 mai 2022 à 12 h 28
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Jeannette could easily be a david Clarkson or matt belesky type guy. Askarov would be a huge wildcard and in no means do I think Jeannot will match nylander at any pt in his career. The trade was more about gaining cap and grabbing an actual goaltending prospect.
Whether you add something on either side I don't feel this is my toronto bias.


Losing 40 points of offence to get a goalie prospect helps the leafs get over the hump how?
22 mai 2022 à 12 h 30
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Not really if you looked at how Jeannot played last year I thought that he could potentially become the player he was this year. Sure, he's definitely not a star, but look at his play and you see that most nights he is one of the most noticeable players on the ice. He plays well in his own end and just overall affects the game. Askarov is goalie prospect that everyone is till unsure about, but he was a high first and probably hasn't lost any of that value to the Preds. I just don't see it happening.


A 20 goal 40 point winger is nothing special. Is he a decent player sure, but what is he? Jeannott is going to be a guy the old school meat heads love. He's big and hits and then occasionally gets a goal. 80% of the time he doesn't affect the play, he just hits people and gets silly fans happy. Nylander creates offence at an elite level at 5v5 that's worth a lot more. A lot lot more.
22 mai 2022 à 12 h 30
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Losing 40 points of offence to get a goalie prospect helps the leafs get over the hump how?


Askarov is for the future... jeannot is a cheap option... and losing 40pts of production from nylander but gaining cap to spend else where would even out. And losing a guy like Nylander doesn't make the leafs miss the post season either way
22 mai 2022 à 12 h 34
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Askarov is for the future... jeannot is a cheap option... and losing 40pts of production from nylander but gaining cap to spend else where would even out. And losing a guy like Nylander doesn't make the leafs miss the post season either way


Losing Nylander would hurt the leafs way more than people want to admit. The guy scored 80 points and made everyone he played with more dangerous. The guy made Kampf and Engvall look dangerous. Would Jeannott make Engvall and Kampf better? Absolutely not. Will he make JT better? Not at all. Could he potentially find success with our stars? Yes but now we only have 3 of them since you dumped the 3rd best player to get a guy who will never carry a line.
22 mai 2022 à 13 h 13
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Liljegren is worth more than Garland, I wouldn't move Kerfoot alone for Garland. He's a middle 6 winger making 1.5 more a year than Kerfoot with less production. Keep him. He's a bad contract.


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22 mai 2022 à 13 h 44
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Good troll comment


It's not a troll comment. Garland should be making 3.5 or less. He's just not that great. Bunting is as good as makes less than a million. You can get everything Garland is for way less than 5 million. Keep him
22 mai 2022 à 13 h 54
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Losing Nylander would hurt the leafs way more than people want to admit. The guy scored 80 points and made everyone he played with more dangerous. The guy made Kampf and Engvall look dangerous. Would Jeannott make Engvall and Kampf better? Absolutely not. Will he make JT better? Not at all. Could he potentially find success with our stars? Yes but now we only have 3 of them since you dumped the 3rd best player to get a guy who will never carry a line.


What goal is Toronto trying to achieve? If they want to win the President's cup, then definitely keep Nylander, he is a great regular season performer. If they want to win the Stanley cup, then Nylander's value shrinks substantially.
22 mai 2022 à 14 h 10
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What goal is Toronto trying to achieve? If they want to win the President's cup, then definitely keep Nylander, he is a great regular season performer. If they want to win the Stanley cup, then Nylander's value shrinks substantially.


Because point a game players in the playoffs hurt you? I guess Jeannott's 1 assist in a 4 game sweep is better than Nylander's 15 points in his last 14 playoff games is somehow worse? Do people even bother to look up anything before spouting off? Personally I want to make sure I'm not blatantly speaking nonsense before I open my mouth but that seems to be a rare thing on this site.
22 mai 2022 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
It's not a troll comment. Garland should be making 3.5 or less. He's just not that great. Bunting is as good as makes less than a million. You can get everything Garland is for way less than 5 million. Keep him


I’m really impressed by your resiliency to be wrong and ignore reality
22 mai 2022 à 14 h 11
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I’m really impressed by your resiliency to be wrong and ignore reality


The reality is, Garland is a 50 point winger if he plays on his team's top line. That's not at all worth 5 million a year. He's a fine player but so is Kerfoot. And he's 1.5 million less per year. For a cap strapped team, why would you pay more for the same player?
22 mai 2022 à 15 h 15
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Because point a game players in the playoffs hurt you? I guess Jeannott's 1 assist in a 4 game sweep is better than Nylander's 15 points in his last 14 playoff games is somehow worse? Do people even bother to look up anything before spouting off? Personally I want to make sure I'm not blatantly speaking nonsense before I open my mouth but that seems to be a rare thing on this site.


Toronto has played in 14 elimination games since Nylander has been been involved in the playoffs starting in 2017 (either a chance to eliminate the other team or avoid elimination themselves) 3 goals, scored, 1 of them in garbage time against Montreal when down 3 nothing and 90 seconds left in the game. Has zero physical presence on the ice, and has repeatedly shown this year he won't go the extra mile to help the team out (not putting in the effort to negate an icing, pulling up short when going to the corner for a puck battle, these types of plays are why everyone says Toronto is "soft". Teammates hate that type of effort and the fact they are painted with the soft reputation because they are associated with his type of play. But hey, at least you proved your point, most posters don't stop to do any research before blatantly spouting nonsense. If you want to use stats to try and support your argument, then you should look at context.
22 mai 2022 à 15 h 36
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Toronto has played in 14 elimination games since Nylander has been been involved in the playoffs starting in 2017 (either a chance to eliminate the other team or avoid elimination themselves) 3 goals, scored, 1 of them in garbage time against Montreal when down 3 nothing and 90 seconds left in the game. Has zero physical presence on the ice, and has repeatedly shown this year he won't go the extra mile to help the team out (not putting in the effort to negate an icing, pulling up short when going to the corner for a puck battle, these types of plays are why everyone says Toronto is "soft". Teammates hate that type of effort and the fact they are painted with the soft reputation because they are associated with his type of play. But hey, at least you proved your point, most posters don't stop to do any research before blatantly spouting nonsense. If you want to use stats to try and support your argument, then you should look at context.


1 assist. Nylander is way better
22 mai 2022 à 15 h 51
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1 assist. Nylander is way better


1 assist in 4 games, 2 meaningful goals in 14 games. One player is getting paid $800,000 and doesn't embarrass himself or his team with effort, the other gets paid over 6.9 million to run and hide when the going gets tough.
22 mai 2022 à 16 h 1
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1 assist in 4 games, 2 meaningful goals in 14 games. One player is getting paid $800,000 and doesn't embarrass himself or his team with effort, the other gets paid over 6.9 million to run and hide when the going gets tough.


Just saying whatever makes you feel like you have a foot to stand on eh? Nylander crashed the net all playoffs and Vasi stood on his head in game 7. This is just typical nonsense from fools who ignore everything that doesn't fit their narrative. Jeannott had zero big goals in the playoffs, or goals period. But somehow he is the hero who scores big goals in the playoffs
22 mai 2022 à 16 h 31
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Just saying whatever makes you feel like you have a foot to stand on eh? Nylander crashed the net all playoffs and Vasi stood on his head in game 7. This is just typical nonsense from fools who ignore everything that doesn't fit their narrative. Jeannott had zero big goals in the playoffs, or goals period. But somehow he is the hero who scores big goals in the playoffs


Now who is saying whatever makes you feel better. Who is saying Jeannott is the hero who scores big goals in the play offs. I do not expect a player getting paid next to league minimum to be relied upon to continually come up big in the important games. I certainly expect 6.9 million to get you something, especially in the big games. 6 play off series, 6 first round exits, 6.9 million to not produce in the big games. Nothing I said in the last sentence is false. You keep beating Nylander's drum, then keep scratching your head and wondering why Toronto can't get out of the first round of the play offs.
22 mai 2022 à 16 h 43
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Now who is saying whatever makes you feel better. Who is saying Jeannott is the hero who scores big goals in the play offs. I do not expect a player getting paid next to league minimum to be relied upon to continually come up big in the important games. I certainly expect 6.9 million to get you something, especially in the big games. 6 play off series, 6 first round exits, 6.9 million to not produce in the big games. Nothing I said in the last sentence is false. You keep beating Nylander's drum, then keep scratching your head and wondering why Toronto can't get out of the first round of the play offs.


You literally said this trade helps TO win big games.
22 mai 2022 à 17 h 2
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You literally said this trade helps TO win big games.


Please show me where I said that. I never discussed Jeannott at all until you started talking about him. I focused strictly on Nylander's value. Said he was a great regular season player, play offs much less. This was in reply to your post about how valuable Nylander is, I replied his value shrinks substantially in the play offs, at that point I never said a thing about Jeannott. Then elaborated on Nylander's play offs in response to you talking about Jeannott lack of play off success. It was never me talking about Jeannott being a play off goal scorer, it was you. What I did point out over and over again is that Nylander plays great in the regular season when the games are not intense, but in the important play off games for Toronto (the elimination games) he doesn't score, and worse, he lack of effort on the ice when doing the "little things" makes it that much worse. I am saying this, trading Nylander has the potential for Toronto to win big games if they can use the freed up cap space and top 6 forward spot to get someone who can perform in the play offs. Keeping players like Nylander on the roster should give fans the same expectations for the future as what they have seen for the past 6 years.
 
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