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Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 21 mai 2022
Publié: 21 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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#9 Savoie
#32 Rinzel
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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BUF
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
  2. Schmidt, Nate
Détails additionnels:
If Winnipeg can't sign Dubois long term
WPG
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. Portillo, Erik [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
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21 mai 2022 à 13 h 8
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Interesting offer, doubt they say yes, but fair. Cozens and Dubois are having fun together at Worlds.
21 mai 2022 à 13 h 30
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Not a chance the Jets consider that. At least include the Buffalo 1st but realistically it would cost Cozens ++
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21 mai 2022 à 13 h 36
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Winnipeg isn't trading Dubois and this doesn't change their mind as it only fills one hole by creating another.
21 mai 2022 à 13 h 44
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Jets Decline
Middelstadt doesn’t start the convo, so stop offering him
21 mai 2022 à 13 h 49
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Not a chance the Jets consider that. At least include the Buffalo 1st but realistically it would cost Cozens ++


He's an RFA that needs a big contract. That doesn't get you a top 10 pick & Cozens. Not even close. When ROR was in a similar situation he got the 31st pick + Zadorov + Compher + Grigorenko. If a situation like ROR happens again where the team & the player can't agree on a contract you aren't going to get some huge haul. That's just not realistic.
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21 mai 2022 à 13 h 52
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Quoting: ElectroMan
He's an RFA that needs a big contract. That doesn't get you a top 10 pick & Cozens. Not even close. When ROR was in a similar situation he got the 31st pick + Zadorov + Compher + Grigorenko. If a situation like ROR happens again where the team & the player can't agree on a contract you aren't going to get some huge haul. That's just not realistic.


When did vegas first become top 10?
21 mai 2022 à 13 h 54
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When did vegas first become top 10?


"At least include the Buffalo 1st but realistically it would cost Cozens ++"
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21 mai 2022 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: ElectroMan
"At least include the Buffalo 1st but realistically it would cost Cozens ++"


Similar but different situations for oreilly and Dubois, Dubois has all ready left his toxic situation in colombus and feels like home in Winnipeg. Dad with the organization, family in the city, I would be rather surprised if he doesn’t have a standing 5 to 8 year offer in the 7/8 million dollar range waiting for him. So a lot of these Dubois builds going to be null and void.
21 mai 2022 à 14 h 45
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Quoting: Birtle34
Similar but different situations for oreilly and Dubois, Dubois has all ready left his toxic situation in colombus and feels like home in Winnipeg. Dad with the organization, family in the city, I would be rather surprised if he doesn’t have a standing 5 to 8 year offer in the 7/8 million dollar range waiting for him. So a lot of these Dubois builds going to be null and void.



The dude put in the description that the move is based on the assumption "If Winnipeg can't sign Dubois long term", in which case WPG would be stupid not to move him at his highest value. Unless you think they're going all in for a cup run (the only scenario where not trading him would be the right move) the "they're not trading PLD" comments add nothing to the conversation. This site is quite literally 100% hypothetical
21 mai 2022 à 14 h 50
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The dude put in the description that the move is based on the assumption "If Winnipeg can't sign Dubois long term", in which case WPG would be stupid not to move him at his highest value. Unless you think they're going all in for a cup run (the only scenario where not trading him would be the right move) the "they're not trading PLD" comments add nothing to the conversation. This site is quite literally 100% hypothetical

If they trade him, they might as well trade everybody, outside of samberg, perfetti and lucious. So builds should have a full fire sale effect, if they start with a Dubois hypothetical.
21 mai 2022 à 14 h 55
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Quoting: Birtle34
Similar but different situations for oreilly and Dubois, Dubois has all ready left his toxic situation in colombus and feels like home in Winnipeg. Dad with the organization, family in the city, I would be rather surprised if he doesn’t have a standing 5 to 8 year offer in the 7/8 million dollar range waiting for him. So a lot of these Dubois builds going to be null and void.


Yea I don't think it would be a situation where PLD hates Winnipeg or anything. I just heard Marek & Friedman mention not too long ago that they were having issues with the contract situation. That's kinda where I got the idea from. One of our local reporters mentioned it too.

From the podcast

“I think the Jets would like to sign long-term but I don’t know how he feels about that. And if he’s not willing to do a long term deal what are the Jets going to do here? And I just had a couple of people say to me ‘watch this one’.”
21 mai 2022 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: Birtle34
If they trade him, they might as well trade everybody, outside of samberg, perfetti and lucious. So builds should have a full fire sale effect, if they start with a Dubois hypothetical.


Sir, this is a Sabres post. You could do that as a Jets post, I'd love to come there and say whether or not I think the guy you dumped on the Sabres makes sense or not in a Jets fire sale.

P.S. that wasn't directly aimed at you. I thought your comment was informative, you just got caught in the crossfire. It's more the people who post "they're not trading PLD" end of comment. So I'm sorry about that
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21 mai 2022 à 15 h 2
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Yea I don't think it would be a situation where PLD hates Winnipeg or anything. I just heard Marek & Friedman mention not too long ago that they were having issues with the contract situation. That's kinda where I got the idea from. One of our local reporters mentioned it too.

From the podcast

“I think the Jets would like to sign long-term but I don’t know how he feels about that. And if he’s not willing to do a long term deal what are the Jets going to do here? And I just had a couple of people say to me ‘watch this one’.”

Chevy would have to save face on turning laine/roslovic into ?, jets kind of at a crossroads, where there’s a win it for scheifele/wheeler contingent, or tear it right back to the studs and rebuild with a Dubois/Conner/ehlers and possibly helly. So if there’s a Dubois move, it might turn into a tear it back to a perfetti/lucious/samberg build and everybody fair game. Will be a interesting off-season with a trade triggering a few more, or just some cap moved around and slow and boring like usual.
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21 mai 2022 à 15 h 6
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Sir, this is a Sabres post. You could do that as a Jets post, I'd love to come there and say whether or not I think the guy you dumped on the Sabres makes sense or not in a Jets fire sale

Yes it’s a Sabres post, but if Dubois is dealt, the return needs more team control and younger prospects is my general premise on all Dubois deals. That’s an awful return for laine/roslovic.
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21 mai 2022 à 15 h 21
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Yes it’s a Sabres post, but if Dubois is dealt, the return needs more team control and younger prospects is my general premise on all Dubois deals. That’s an awful return for laine/roslovic.


Also you have to make sure, your roster is as bad as possible in order to get best % for Bedard
21 mai 2022 à 15 h 31
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Also you have to make sure, your roster is as bad as possible in order to get best % for Bedard


Perhaps and possibly add a potential lottery pick over the Vegas pick to hedge your bet on bedard sweepstakes.
21 mai 2022 à 16 h 9
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Zero chance of Winnipeg accepting that offer for Pierre-Luc Dubois.

And Jack Campbell is looking for closer to $6,000,000 x 5 years he's not taking a short term deal from Buffalo.
22 mai 2022 à 1 h 4
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Quoting: ElectroMan
He's an RFA that needs a big contract. That doesn't get you a top 10 pick & Cozens. Not even close. When ROR was in a similar situation he got the 31st pick + Zadorov + Compher + Grigorenko. If a situation like ROR happens again where the team & the player can't agree on a contract you aren't going to get some huge haul. That's just not realistic.


I said to the original offer at least include the Sabres 1st (not Vegas'). Realistically, the Jets need to compete NOW so the ask would start with Cozens, someone that can play top 6 immediately. Did not say Cozens AND the Buffalo 1st though the 1st should also be on the table.
22 mai 2022 à 7 h 11
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Zero chance of Winnipeg accepting that offer for Pierre-Luc Dubois.

And Jack Campbell is looking for closer to $6,000,000 x 5 years he's not taking a short term deal from Buffalo.


"If Winnipeg can't sign Dubois long term"

6x5!? who the hell is gonna give him that lmao

Realistically probably somewhere around the Ullmark deal. Campbell hasn't played great & long enough as a starter to get 6M for 5 years,
22 mai 2022 à 7 h 13
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I said to the original offer at least include the Sabres 1st (not Vegas'). Realistically, the Jets need to compete NOW so the ask would start with Cozens, someone that can play top 6 immediately. Did not say Cozens AND the Buffalo 1st though the 1st should also be on the table.


The whole trade hinges on Winnipeg not being able to work out a contract with Dubois. Similar to the situation with ROR & Colorado that I referenced. You wouldn't get either the 9th pick or Cozens in that scenario.
22 mai 2022 à 8 h 49
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Quoting: ElectroMan
The whole trade hinges on Winnipeg not being able to work out a contract with Dubois. Similar to the situation with ROR & Colorado that I referenced. You wouldn't get either the 9th pick or Cozens in that scenario.


I wouldn’t get too excited/concerned (depending on what side you are on) about Dubois not being signed by Cheveldayoff at this point.

Some Jets RFAs were signed before the offseason: Morrissey, Ehlers, Lowry (2)
Some were signed in the early-to-mid offseason: Appleton, Copp (2), Harkins, Hellebuyck (2), Pionk (2), Trouba, Scheifele, Wheeler
Some were signed late: Morrissey, Connor, Kane, Laine, Trouba

Signing before training camp is obviously good, but even signing late isn't necessarily bad sign. Connor and Kane missed some training camp before signing their 7yr and 6yr extensions, respectively. Morrissey signed both late and early. The downside is Laine and Trouba and I haven't heard any messaging from Dubois (or his agent) that sounded like Trouba or Laine at the time. Still plenty of time for things to play out and I doubt anything will happen until a head coach is hired.
22 mai 2022 à 21 h 22
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The whole trade hinges on Winnipeg not being able to work out a contract with Dubois. Similar to the situation with ROR & Colorado that I referenced. You wouldn't get either the 9th pick or Cozens in that scenario.


Nice that you can be so sure of your opinion, I guess.

I think you are wrong.
23 mai 2022 à 12 h 52
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Nice that you can be so sure of your opinion, I guess.

I think you are wrong.


Wrong about what?

23 year old ROR (.72PPG) last 3 years = 31st pick + Zadorov + Grigorenko + Compher

23 year old PLD (.66PPG) last 3 years = 9th pick / Cozens ++

How does that make any sense?
 
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