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Kawahi Summer

Créé par: Wadejos123
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2022
Publié: 20 mai 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Sandin, Rasmus21 500 000 $
Liljegren, Timothy32 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason1750 000 $
Wedgewood, Scott1750 000 $
Paul, Nicholas33 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Gibson, John
ANA
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  3. Niemelä, Topi
  4. 2022 1e round pick (TOR)
  5. 2023 3e round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
    ARI
    1. Holl, Justin
    2. 2023 4e round pick (TOR)
    3.
    TOR
    1. Granlund, Mikael
    2. Fabbro, Dante
    3. 2022 1e round pick (NSH)
    NSH
    1. Marner, Mitchell
    2. 2022 3e round pick (WPG)
    4.
    TOR
    1. Brown, Connor (1 800 000 $ retained)
    OTT
    1. 2022 1e round pick (NSH)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
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    2023
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    Logo de TOR
    2024
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    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $81 199 283 $212 500 $0 $1 300 717 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de TOR
    Bunting, Michael
    950 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
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    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de NSH
    Granlund, Mikael
    5 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 3
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    Kerfoot, Alexander
    3 500 000 $
    AG, C
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de TOR
    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de TOR
    Robertson, Nicholas
    796 667 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    Paul, Nicholas
    3 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA
    Logo de OTT
    Brown, Connor
    1 800 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    Simmonds, Wayne
    900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de TOR
    Kämpf, David
    1 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    7 500 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de ANA
    Gibson, John
    6 400 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de NSH
    Fabbro, Dante
    2 400 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Wedgewood, Scott
    750 000 $
    G
    UFA
    Logo de TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA
    Logo de TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    2 500 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de TOR
    Clifford, Kyle
    762 500 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de TOR
    Dahlström, Carl
    750 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1

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    20 mai à 18 h 26
    #1
    Lets go Avalance
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    I get what you are trying to do, but calling adding John Gibson a "Kawahi" type move is disrespectful to Kawhi big time.
    20 mai à 18 h 34
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    Only on cap friendly is a 29 year old goalie who's had a few poor seasons in a row is worth more than a 100 point my top 5 winger.
    20 mai à 18 h 34
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    John Gibson is more of a david clarkson move than a kawhi move, except that Clarkson had been good recently
    20 mai à 18 h 34
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    I get what you are trying to do, but calling adding John Gibson a "Kawahi" type move is disrespectful to Kawhi big time.


    And then he dumps Marner for essentially nothing.
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    20 mai à 18 h 35
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    I get what you are trying to do, but calling adding John Gibson a "Kawahi" type move is disrespectful to Kawhi big time.


    I was thinking about booking a trip to Kawahi but not sure when hurricane season is
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    20 mai à 18 h 40
    #6
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    A Kawhi type move would be like adding Roman Josi to the D. Or Matthew Tkachuk to W. Or Vasilevskiy to G.
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    20 mai à 18 h 49
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Only on cap friendly is a 29 year old goalie who's had a few poor seasons in a row is worth more than a 100 point my top 5 winger.


    It's not enough for Marner, but it is still a better package of assets than the one ANA is getting.
    20 mai à 18 h 50
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    Quoting: gmgb
    It's not enough for Marner, but it is still a better package of assets than the one ANA is getting.


    the leafs are trading a 100 point player, the ducks are trading a below league average goalie
    20 mai à 18 h 55
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    Leafs fans are desperate for a "Kahwi Trade", but they all seem to forget who DeMar DeRozen was to that franchise. The DeRozen analog on that team is Morgan Reilly.
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    20 mai à 19 h 6
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Leafs fans are desperate for a "Kahwi Trade", but they all seem to forget who DeMar DeRozen was to that franchise. The DeRozen analog on that team is Morgan Reilly.


    also not grasping what "Kahwi" was at the time of that trade, an elite pending UFA, a hired gun going all in for a chance at a championship. Any of these Kahwi trades of guys with Term coming back dont really follow that Kahwi trade footprint.

    considering who are the top pending UFAs in 2023 that probably have a chance of moving. Patrick Kane is the guy that comes to mind.
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    20 mai à 19 h 17
    #11
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    And then he dumps Marner for essentially nothing.


    Lol, how did I miss that one.

    Quoting: NYR1983
    I was thinking about booking a trip to Kawahi but not sure when hurricane season is


    Haha
    20 mai à 19 h 18
    #12
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    Quoting: gmgb
    It's not enough for Marner, but it is still a better package of assets than the one ANA is getting.


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    20 mai à 19 h 21
    #13
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Leafs fans are desperate for a "Kahwi Trade", but they all seem to forget who DeMar DeRozen was to that franchise. The DeRozen analog on that team is Morgan Reilly.


    Quoting: coga16
    also not grasping what "Kahwi" was at the time of that trade, an elite pending UFA, a hired gun going all in for a chance at a championship. Any of these Kahwi trades of guys with Term coming back dont really follow that Kahwi trade footprint.

    considering who are the top pending UFAs in 2023 that probably have a chance of moving. Patrick Kane is the guy that comes to mind.


    Yes, there is no true Kawhi on the market, nor do the leafs have a good DeRozen equivenlent. The closest thing that you will get is something like JT Miller (who obiously isn't anywhere near what Kawhi was) for Nylander (who also is not Demar).
    20 mai à 19 h 22
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    Why not just sign husso instead of giving up all of that for Gibson?
    20 mai à 19 h 48
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    This team wins cups, for sure!
    20 mai à 20 h 49
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    Quoting: gmgb
    It's not enough for Marner, but it is still a better package of assets than the one ANA is getting.


    A middle 6 winger and a depth defenceman and a mid round first is not better than 2 top prospects, a 1st, a 3rd and Mrazek. That's
    20 mai à 20 h 51
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    Yes, there is no true Kawhi on the market, nor do the leafs have a good DeRozen equivenlent. The closest thing that you will get is something like JT Miller (who obiously isn't anywhere near what Kawhi was) for Nylander (who also is not Demar).


    But you could likely make a package that would be enough to get him at half salary and keep Nylander. It would be a hefty price for sure but you could likely send Kerfoot over to gain cap space and the futures they get for the trade would make it worthwhile.
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    20 mai à 21 h 12
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    A middle 6 winger and a depth defenceman and a mid round first is not better than 2 top prospects, a 1st, a 3rd and Mrazek. That's


    Yeah, but that's not an accurate assessment at all. A top six center who outscored Bunting, a young 1st pairing RD - both on team friendly contracts, 17OA, and no cap dumps is considerably better than two A- prospects that could be as good as those players someday, 28OA, a 3rd, and getting stuck with $3.8M AHL level goalie for two years.
    20 mai à 21 h 13
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    But you could likely make a package that would be enough to get him at half salary and keep Nylander. It would be a hefty price for sure but you could likely send Kerfoot over to gain cap space and the futures they get for the trade would make it worthwhile.


    I know, I'm just saying that the closest somewhat realistic blockbuster for being a Kawhi trade comparable. I agree something centred around Kerfoot and a large amount of picks and prospects (you'd be looking at something like Kerfoot, Neimela and a first and a second though) would be better.
    20 mai à 21 h 28
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    A middle 6 winger and a depth defenceman and a mid round first is not better than 2 top prospects, a 1st, a 3rd and Mrazek. That's


    The 1st and Mrazek balance each other out. Mrazek is a dump. And Nimella just isn't a "top prospect". He's solid but no where near the value TOR fans are suggesting. It's just not as much for Gibson as the dilusional leafs fans think
    21 mai à 0 h 14
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    Quoting: gmgb
    Yeah, but that's not an accurate assessment at all. A top six center who outscored Bunting, a young 1st pairing RD - both on team friendly contracts, 17OA, and no cap dumps is considerably better than two A- prospects that could be as good as those players someday, 28OA, a 3rd, and getting stuck with $3.8M AHL level goalie for two years.


    Fabbro isn't a top pair defenceman. I'm done here.
    21 mai à 8 h 23
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    The 1st and Mrazek balance each other out. Mrazek is a dump. And Nimella just isn't a "top prospect". He's solid but no where near the value TOR fans are suggesting. It's just not as much for Gibson as the dilusional leafs fans think


    He's got a pile of value. He was the top defenceman at the juniors and was the top defenceman in his league in Europe. He's a top prospect. As is Knies. Fabbro is nothing special and Granlund is Kerfoot. Mrazek does not in any way cost a 1st to move when he has such a good buyout.
    21 mai à 9 h 36
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Fabbro isn't a top pair defenceman. I'm done here.


    A guy who literally plays on the first pair is a "depth defenseman", but a 3rd rounder with less upside is a top prospect? Yes, we are certainly done here.
    21 mai à 10 h 26
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    Quoting: gmgb
    A guy who literally plays on the first pair is a "depth defenseman", but a 3rd rounder with less upside is a top prospect? Yes, we are certainly done here.


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    21 mai à 14 h 15
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    Sens can get more for Brown especially with retention, and if he's moved, it likely won't be for future assets anyways
     
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