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Guerin is going to give Fiala away

Créé par: TanSor
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2022
Publié: 20 mai 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
Guerin was on KFAN (local sports radio) the other day and defended Dumba adamantly to the detriment of Fiala when he was probed with the idea of keeping Fiala instead of Dumba. I have a feeling he's not going to ask for much and is going to give him away for pennies. Whoever ends up with him, they're getting one hell of a player.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dewar, Connor2850 000 $
Middleton, Jacob32 900 000 $
Gaudette, Adam2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Fleury, Marc-André13 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Gaudette, Adam [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 2e round pick (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
Similar return to Buchnevich trade, which was robbery by the Blues.
OTT
  1. Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
2.
MIN
  1. 2022 5e round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
Détails additionnels:
Any team who needs a bottom pairing LD
Rachats de contrats
  • Zach Parise: 6 371 794 $
  • Ryan Suter: 6 371 794 $
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $81 874 421 $0 $1 532 500 $625 579 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Kaprizov, Kirill
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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Hartman, Ryan
1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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Zuccarello, Mats
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
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Greenway, Jordan
3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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Eriksson Ek, Joel
5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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Foligno, Marcus
3 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Boldy, Matthew
880 833 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Rossi, Marco
863 333 $
C
RFA - 3
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Gaudreau, Frédérick
1 200 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Duhaime, Brandon
750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Jost, Tyson
2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
Gaudette, Adam
900 000 $
C, AD
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Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Brodin, Jonas
6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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Dumba, Matt
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Talbot, Cam
3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1
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Middleton, Jacob
2 900 000 $
DG
RFA
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Spurgeon, Jared
7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Fleury, Marc-André
3 500 000 $
G
UFA
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Merrill, Jon
1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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Goligoski, Alex
2 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Dewar, Connor
850 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
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Addison, Calen
795 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

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20 mai à 22 h 48
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
82 game sample = forest
6 game sample = trees


Two different seasons. We have 13 postseason games and he vanishes
20 mai à 23 h 41
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Quoting: Wildwinswhen
Two different seasons. We have 13 postseason games and he vanishes


Not going to try to convince you Fiala has been good, just gonna add a little extra context.

In 2019-20, Fiala was our best playoff player on a line with Eric Staal.
In 2020-21, Fiala played with Hartman and Johansson, so is it any wonder he didn't produce?
In 2021-22, Fiala played with Boldy and Gaudreau. Gaudreau disappeared even harder than Fiala did, and Boldy LOOKED like a rookie out there.

So we didn't learn anything new that we didn't already know. The only difference is in the playoffs we seem to shift the blame from Guerin and Evason not putting him in a position to succeed, to Fiala. Despite the fact that nothing really changed.

Looking at those seasons statistically from a team perspective, the only guys in the last three years that have outscored Fiala in the playoffs are Spurgeon and Kaprizov. Notably, Zuccarello has one single goal in his three playoff runs here, and less points than Fiala does. And he's the one attached to Kaprizov.

Fiala needs to be better going forward in the playoffs, but we as a fanbase need to stop pretending Fiala is exceedingly bad. He is constantly used as a scapegoat by media (namely Russo) and fans (especially on Twitter, yes I realize it's a cesspool). It's tired and played out.

It is not a tale of two different seasons or players. It is the same player with the same flaws we already knew about. It's not the reason we're losing. If you're looking for the reason we're losing, look at the GM who constructed this roster and the coach who's in charge of deploying it every game.

Fiala will get traded, most likely to a team that recognizes that in order to get the best out of your players, you need to give them something to work with. And he'll continue scoring in the regular season, and he'll produce in the playoffs too with a competent GM and coach.
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21 mai à 5 h 36
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tears of joy you're right. Still though, I just don't trust Guerin to maximize Fiala's value


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21 mai à 10 h 36
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Quoting: Caerii
Not going to try to convince you Fiala has been good, just gonna add a little extra context.

In 2019-20, Fiala was our best playoff player on a line with Eric Staal.
In 2020-21, Fiala played with Hartman and Johansson, so is it any wonder he didn't produce?
In 2021-22, Fiala played with Boldy and Gaudreau. Gaudreau disappeared even harder than Fiala did, and Boldy LOOKED like a rookie out there.

So we didn't learn anything new that we didn't already know. The only difference is in the playoffs we seem to shift the blame from Guerin and Evason not putting him in a position to succeed, to Fiala. Despite the fact that nothing really changed.

Looking at those seasons statistically from a team perspective, the only guys in the last three years that have outscored Fiala in the playoffs are Spurgeon and Kaprizov. Notably, Zuccarello has one single goal in his three playoff runs here, and less points than Fiala does. And he's the one attached to Kaprizov.

Fiala needs to be better going forward in the playoffs, but we as a fanbase need to stop pretending Fiala is exceedingly bad. He is constantly used as a scapegoat by media (namely Russo) and fans (especially on Twitter, yes I realize it's a cesspool). It's tired and played out.

It is not a tale of two different seasons or players. It is the same player with the same flaws we already knew about. It's not the reason we're losing. If you're looking for the reason we're losing, look at the GM who constructed this roster and the coach who's in charge of deploying it every game.

Fiala will get traded, most likely to a team that recognizes that in order to get the best out of your players, you need to give them something to work with. And he'll continue scoring in the regular season, and he'll produce in the playoffs too with a competent GM and coach.


Fiala is a streaky scorer like Nino. He'll get his goals in the regular season because it's a long time, so his streak eventually shows up. But over any one 6 game period he could be either a 0 pts player or a 6 pts player and there's no way to tell which Fiala will show up. But, in the postseason, it's been low scoring Fiala who shows up.

With regard to last year with Hartman and Johannsen. Hartman has scored alot of goals this year with KK on his line. So he's not worthless. To say that Fiala couldn't score last postseason because he was paired with Hartman is just short sighted. Also, Fiala thought he should be paid more than 6.5M this year, so he must think he's worth 8M now. 8M dollar players make their linemates better.

I just don't see that future for him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

But my main concern was how negative GMBG is about him. That points to a Nino style trade rather than a Zucker style trade (or better) which was my concern
 
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