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Guerin is going to give Fiala away

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Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2022
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Guerin was on KFAN (local sports radio) the other day and defended Dumba adamantly to the detriment of Fiala when he was probed with the idea of keeping Fiala instead of Dumba. I have a feeling he's not going to ask for much and is going to give him away for pennies. Whoever ends up with him, they're getting one hell of a player.
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20 mai 2022 à 16 h 16
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Maybe this helps make a market for him?

If other GMs think they are getting a good deal, maybe the are more likely to make an offer.

Just a thought.
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20 mai 2022 à 16 h 18
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I think my best offer on here (from NJD) was something like:

One of - Zacha, Johnsson, Zetterlund, Boqvist, Foote, Walsh, Wood, Stillman, Salminen, Bahl, etc
One of - 2022 2nd (#37), 2023 2nd, 2024 2nd
One of - Swap 2023 1sts (top-10 protected), 2023 1st (playoff protected), 2024 1st (top-10 protected)

(Just can’t do it: 2022 1st, Luke, Holtz, Mercer, Gritsyuk, Mukhamadulkin)
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20 mai 2022 à 16 h 19
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Ottawa says "Thank you, Come again".
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20 mai 2022 à 16 h 26
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I don't know if I buy that idea. Russo has talked all season about how tight-knit this group is, and that includes Fiala. If there were locker room issues, that would have made headlines


I mean Russo pretty much covers for Dean and Guerin. I remember how Russo called out fiala in playoffs for checking out. So I won't be surprised much like after the release of Parise and Suter, if dirt comes out about fiala after he gets traded like it dud about both former players
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20 mai 2022 à 16 h 34
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I mean Russo pretty much covers for Dean and Guerin. I remember how Russo called out fiala in playoffs for checking out. So I won't be surprised much like after the release of Parise and Suter, if dirt comes out about fiala after he gets traded like it dud about both former players


That's a good point about Parise and Suter. I'd still be surprised though considering Russo said and wrote all year how close the room was.
20 mai 2022 à 16 h 41
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That's a good point about Parise and Suter. I'd still be surprised though considering Russo said and wrote all year how close the room was.


We knew alot about Suter and Parise from the Adam Oates situation. It's no surprise that those guys weren't good in the locker room. Especially Suter.
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20 mai 2022 à 16 h 50
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I can't see us offering less than Helge Grans (or Jordan Spence) plus our 2022 second for Fiala, and frankly, I'd offer our 2022 first plus one of our A prospects (which might even include Turcotte).

If there was a Pacioretty/Stone-type extension being worked on, I think that Turcotte plus our 2022 first would be a fair deal.
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20 mai 2022 à 16 h 52
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Am I the only one that wants this team built entirely in there gms image or bigger or angrier. Just imagine an entire roster of billy guerins, just large angry and a hairpin trigger. Possibly add Lemieux from la, maybe lucic and kassian, gudbranson, and that other monster from Calgary. Could be a fun build, probably smith in net. More intense the better. So late to probably a pretty good convo on the wild, sorry if you actually got to the end of my post.
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 4
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I can't see us offering less than Helge Grans (or Jordan Spence) plus our 2022 second for Fiala, and frankly, I'd offer our 2022 first plus one of our A prospects (which might even include Turcotte).

If there was a Pacioretty/Stone-type extension being worked on, I think that Turcotte plus our 2022 first would be a fair deal.


I would take those deals! Let's ink it!
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 6
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Am I the only one that wants this team built entirely in there gms image or bigger or angrier. Just imagine an entire roster of billy guerins, just large angry and a hairpin trigger. Possibly add Lemieux from la, maybe lucic and kassian, gudbranson, and that other monster from Calgary. Could be a fun build, probably smith in net. More intense the better. So late to probably a pretty good convo on the wild, sorry if you actually got to the end of my post.


You're not late at all. We Wild fans talk at length. Now I want to see you build that ACGM to see all those Guerins together. Now that would be a roller coaster team to watch. There could be 4 fights a night smile
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 7
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That's a good point about Parise and Suter. I'd still be surprised though considering Russo said and wrote all year how close the room was.


I've gotta think Fiala is a good guy in the locker room. I can't see Moose allowing anything else.
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 12
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I can't see us offering less than Helge Grans (or Jordan Spence) plus our 2022 second for Fiala, and frankly, I'd offer our 2022 first plus one of our A prospects (which might even include Turcotte).

If there was a Pacioretty/Stone-type extension being worked on, I think that Turcotte plus our 2022 first would be a fair deal.


That seems like a reasonable deal to me. I've toyed with LA's 1st and Turcotte or Vilardi but haven't posted it yet. I would be a little surprised if LA moved on from Turcotte, but to this point he has not lived up to his draft position.
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 15
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You're not late at all. We Wild fans talk at length. Now I want to see you build that ACGM to see all those Guerins together. Now that would be a roller coaster team to watch. There could be 4 fights a night smile

I’m a jets fan, so probably wouldn’t even know where to start. But was definitely a fan of those devils cup teams, when my jets went for a vacation in Phoenix. Amazing how often they could make stars out of no-name college recruits or off the radar guys. Caught one game in Minnesota so far, good times, penguins in Jan of 10 I believe was so over due another adventure. Loved the trip to see the fighting Sioux and the hawks on the same trip. But the best was the Fort Wayne comets and the commitment to rink/strip club/applebees adventure that they have a well beaten path between all three. Recommend it if anybody is in need of a hockey adventure.
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 17
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Pick 37, Zacha, Zetterlund/Boqvist?
20 mai 2022 à 17 h 18
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Pick 37, Zacha, Zetterlund/Boqvist?


I'd hate it. I could see Guerin taking it.
20 mai 2022 à 17 h 19
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I'd hate it. I could see Guerin taking it.


frown sorry friend. Cap casualties suck
20 mai 2022 à 17 h 20
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I don’t think Fiala is going to go for much, but should definitely have a better player in return than Gaudette
20 mai 2022 à 17 h 30
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frown sorry friend. Cap casualties suck


It's not even that, Guerin clearly doesn't think highly of Fiala so I just don't see him asking for much in return.
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 31
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Pick 37, Zacha, Zetterlund/Boqvist?


I'd do it! I want Boqvist.
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 33
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I'd hate it. I could see Guerin taking it.


Come on... Boqvist, Zacha, and a second? This is without us having to figure out Fiala's next contract. I'll wish them good luck with that. This is a good deal for us.
20 mai 2022 à 17 h 34
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That seems like a reasonable deal to me. I've toyed with LA's 1st and Turcotte or Vilardi but haven't posted it yet. I would be a little surprised if LA moved on from Turcotte, but to this point he has not lived up to his draft position.


A first and Vilardi would be a dream, so I'm convinced it won't happen
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20 mai 2022 à 17 h 38
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Come on... Boqvist, Zacha, and a second? This is without us having to figure out Fiala's next contract. I'll wish them good luck with that. This is a good deal for us.


Zacha would be stuck on our 4th line, so he wouldn't have much value here. Boqvist is an OK piece, but I don't think he'll be much more than a career 3rd liner. The 2nd is a 2nd. I dunno, just not something I'm all that excited about for a 25 year old fresh off an 85 point season.
20 mai 2022 à 18 h 7
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As much as I like Fiala I can't trade the 8OA pick. You never know if a franchise guy could slide down in the draft. Would Billy take Zadina and a 2nd? That would be a rip off for Fiala.


He might take Zadina and a 2nd. But I hope he holds out for 8 OA.

MIN Fiala

DET Rasmussen, 2nd, and a 3rd

?
20 mai 2022 à 18 h 17
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He might take Zadina and a 2nd. But I hope he holds out for 8 OA.

MIN Fiala

DET Rasmussen, 2nd, and a 3rd

?


I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.
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20 mai 2022 à 18 h 20
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Because giving away 80+ point 30+ goal scoring players is something GMs want to explain to their fanbase...


If you listen to the interview OP referred to, Guerin doesn't give a single solitary **** about explaining anything to the fans. He's very, very arrogant.
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