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Créé par: Enrique
Équipe: 2022-23 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 17 mai 2022
Publié: 18 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
These trades any good?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
55 750 000 $
21 550 000 $
21 100 000 $
32 500 000 $
32 500 000 $
1950 000 $
1950 000 $
1950 000 $
1950 000 $
44 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
34 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
LAK
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Moverare, Jacob
  3. Vilardi, Gabriel
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
2.
3.
LAK
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
Rachats de contrats
Frais de résiliation
Enfoui
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2022
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Logo de BUF
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Logo de LAK
Logo de LAK
Logo de LAK
2023
Logo de LAK
Logo de LAK
Logo de VGK
Logo de PIT
Logo de LAK
Logo de LAK
Logo de LAK
Logo de LAK
2024
Logo de LAK
Logo de LAK
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Logo de LAK
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $74 662 501 $637 500 $5 045 000 $6 837 499 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, C
RFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance150 000 $$150K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 550 000 $$2M)
C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance262 500 $$262K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
820 000 $820 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $
DD
RFA - 4

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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 9
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Not wild about giving up a 2nd in 2023 as well but he's almost exactly what I'd want for the Sabres blueline so Id probably say yes. Good idea OP
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 9
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Carolina says no to the first trade.
LA says no to the other two.

After Doughty, you have 3 defensive liabilities on the right side of that defense.
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 13
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I think carolina considers the offer but will likely counteroffer with a better prospect than andersson. Most likely will ask for somebody like kaliyev or kupari. vilardi is a good start but they will probably want somebody other than andersson
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 22
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The only way the Canes think about moving Necas would be for either a top 6 LW or a top 4 LHD. Vilardi is a nice piece, but he would very likely just get sent down to Chicago to rot. It would take too long for him to even get the 4C role barring injuries. Andersson is a no go. I get the Canes have quite a few former Rangers, but Andersson won’t do much if anything for the Canes. If Necas is getting traded, the main piece coming back won’t be a center, right winger, or a goalie.
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 30
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I could see the Sabres interested in Roy,
but i think you’re asking for too much

I don’t think we do Johnson (who’s a pretty good prospect, formerly a 1st round pick & playing like it) and both 2nd round picks

To me, Roy looks like a fairly solid top4 guy
I’d think that’s worth 1 of those pieces, not all 3
Especially since he isn’t signed long term- only 2 more years
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 31
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Quoting: Stadel
Not wild about giving up a 2nd in 2023 as well but he's almost exactly what I'd want for the Sabres blueline so Id probably say yes. Good idea OP


I like Roy, but that’s too much to give up for a top4 guy only signed for 2yrs
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 37
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Quoting: Buffalove
I like Roy, but that’s too much to give up for a top4 guy only signed for 2yrs


Johnson is sunk cost, guys got one foot out the door. Two 2nds is probably a little high but if theres an indication that hed be interested in negotiating an extension next july i wouldnt hate it
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 41
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Johnson is sunk cost, guys got one foot out the door. Two 2nds is probably a little high but if theres an indication that hed be interested in negotiating an extension next july i wouldnt hate it


Johnson is still a good prospect that has value
If u think Johnson has little value, then it’s nbd to take him out of the trade

No way to know what he would or wouldn’t be interested in a year from now

And like u said, two 2nds is too much for him

So again,
they can have one of those assets- not 3
18 mai 2022 à 17 h 44
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Quoting: Buffalove
Johnson is still a good prospect that has value
If u think Johnson has little value, then it’s nbd to take him out of the trade

No way to know what he would or wouldn’t be interested in a year from now

And like u said, two 2nds is too much for him

So again,
they can have one of those assets- not 3


I mean, i assume theyd speak with him lol. I didnt say he has no value, hes just not part of the future here so I dont mind adding him to make the deal. Change the 2023 pick and its probably fine.

Top 4 RHD are crazy expensive. Someone paid actual assets to add Ristolainen, who proceeded destroy Philly and force them to move Giroux. I imagine an RHD who provides actual positive value will be very expensive.
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 47
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Can't imagine this is anything but a yes from the Devils.
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18 mai 2022 à 17 h 58
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Quoting: Stadel
I mean, i assume theyd speak with him lol. I didnt say he has no value, hes just not part of the future here so I dont mind adding him to make the deal. Change the 2023 pick and its probably fine.

Top 4 RHD are crazy expensive. Someone paid actual assets to add Ristolainen, who proceeded destroy Philly and force them to move Giroux. I imagine an RHD who provides actual positive value will be very expensive.


His value is what someone is willing to pay
And basing what Roy will get off of the time when Philly’s GM lost his mind isn’t necessarily correlative
Adams isn’t gonna give up 3 decent pieces for a RD2 that’s only signed for 2 years- not imo

LA is willing to get rid of him, so his value isn’t great
He’s a decent 2nd pair guy- no more, no less
Roy is worth something like a 2nd and then a lower pieces like a 4th or 5th
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 18
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Quoting: Buffalove
His value is what someone is willing to pay
And basing what Roy will get off of the time when Philly’s GM lost his mind isn’t necessarily correlative
Adams isn’t gonna give up 3 decent pieces for a RD2 that’s only signed for 2 years- not imo

LA is willing to get rid of him, so his value isn’t great
He’s a decent 2nd pair guy- no more, no less
Roy is worth something like a 2nd and then a lower pieces like a 4th or 5th


You have no idea who Matt Roy is then. I wouldn't give him up for a 1st round pick. Matt Roy will not be traded this summer.
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 20
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His value is what someone is willing to pay
And basing what Roy will get off of the time when Philly’s GM lost his mind isn’t necessarily correlative
Adams isn’t gonna give up 3 decent pieces for a RD2 that’s only signed for 2 years- not imo

LA is willing to get rid of him, so his value isn’t great
He’s a decent 2nd pair guy- no more, no less
Roy is worth something like a 2nd and then a lower pieces like a 4th or 5th


Do you not see the irony here?
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 25
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
You have no idea who Matt Roy is then. I wouldn't give him up for a 1st round pick. Matt Roy will not be traded this summer.


Sure, whatever u say guy
I’m not the one who proposed the trade though, am i?
Maybe u should be directing that to your fellow Kings fans who keep moving him in these ACGM deals?
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 26
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Quoting: Stadel
Do you not see the irony here?


No
Bc i don’t think Adams will lose his mind like the Philly GM did

Also, the Kings have an abundance of RD
It’s reasonable to think they’d keep the ones they like best
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 30
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No
Bc i don’t think Adams will lose his mind like the Philly GM did

Also, the Kings have an abundance of RD
It’s reasonable to think they’d keep the ones they like best


you said that philly's move wasnt correlative but also said that if the kings are moving roy it must be because hes no good, do you have any data to back that up?

cause most of it says hes pretty good. Idk if he's available, but if he is its worth consideration. the possession and shot quality numbers are consistently strong in relative tough minutes.
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 34
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you said that philly's move wasnt correlative but also said that if the kings are moving roy it must be because hes no good, do you have any data to back that up?

cause most of it says hes pretty good. Idk if he's available, but if he is its worth consideration. the possession and shot quality numbers are consistently strong in relative tough minutes.


No, i did not say “he’s no good”
So why don’t you go back & re-read

Roy is a 2nd pair defenseman
I don’t think they have the value to get two 2nds & a good prospect
If u disagree, that’s fine
You aren’t gonna chance my mind though, the end
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 37
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Quoting: Buffalove
Sure, whatever u say guy
I’m not the one who proposed the trade though, am i?
Maybe u should be directing that to your fellow Kings fans who keep moving him in these ACGM deals?


Check my history. I say that on every single Kings ACGM that goes up.
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 39
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Buffalo should be all over that trade. I'd take it in a heartbeat! Opens up so many options! Gonna go make an ACGM now lol
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 41
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Quoting: Buffalove
No, i did not say “he’s no good”
So why don’t you go back & re-read

Roy is a 2nd pair defenseman
I don’t think they have the value to get two 2nds & a good prospect
If u disagree, that’s fine
You aren’t gonna chance my mind though, the end


ok
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 41
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Check my history. I say that on every single Kings ACGM that goes up.


Great
Direct your comments their way, and not mine
Not my fault your fellow fans keep trying to trade him
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 42
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Quoting: Chapee44
Buffalo should be all over that trade. I'd take it in a heartbeat! Opens up so many options! Gonna go make an ACGM now lol


Too much for Roy imo
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 43
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Too much for Roy imo


I fully disagree. I believe Roy is a top 60 dman in the league despite his usage in LA.
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 45
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I fully disagree. I believe Roy is a top 60 dman in the league despite his usage in LA.


His usage is a big part of what dictates his trade value though
How good you believe he is does not
18 mai 2022 à 18 h 47
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Quoting: Buffalove
Great
Direct your comments their way, and not mine
Not my fault your fellow fans keep trying to trade him


I took issue with you calling Roy a "decent 2nd pair defenseman". He was the Kings' #1 defenseman for most of this season, and led the Kings to the playoffs.

Having seen them both play for several years, he's just as good as 2014 Jake Muzzin.
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