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Realistic Off-season for Chuck Wishful Thinking

Créé par: FighterFoos23
Équipe: 2022-23 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 17 mai 2022
Publié: 17 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Flyers hire Trotz (Please for the love of GOD let it happen)

Draft Simon Nemec 5th OA, he doesn't start in the NHL. Still needs to develop a bit.

Ronnie Attard starts the season in the AHL. He needs seasoning.

IF Wade Allison can stay healthy, he most likely will be 4th line winger.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
2925 000 $
1825 000 $
2825 000 $
2825 000 $
3925 000 $
1750 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
2900 000 $
2800 000 $
21 000 000 $
1925 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 675 000 $
21 250 000 $
1900 000 $
1800 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Nemec, Simon
3925 000 $
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PHI
ARI
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. Zamula, Yegor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
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PHI
  1. Björnfot, Tobias
  2. Grundström, Carl [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
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WPG
  1. Frost, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Konecny, Travis
  3. St. Ivany, Jack
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
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PHI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (STL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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AD, AG
UFA - 2
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UFA - 4
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
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NMC
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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C, AD
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DG/DD
UFA - 1
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
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RFA - 2
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance725 000 $$725K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
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UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance262 500 $$262K)
DG
RFA - 1
1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
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17 mai 2022 à 19 h 12
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I don't think we'd need a first and zamula to dump JVR's deal, but the rest of the moves are solid
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17 mai 2022 à 19 h 29
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LA won't give up Bjornfot or Anderson for Provorov.
17 mai 2022 à 19 h 34
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The trade for Scheifele as you have it won't work for the Jets. It would need to be Philly's first from this year or from 23 unprotected.

Frost and St. Ivany aren't good enough to allow the first to be a later one a year from now.
17 mai 2022 à 19 h 47
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Just curious, what is konecnys value? Or is he a guy that everyone sees differently?
17 mai 2022 à 20 h 0
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Holy heck that’s way way way way way too much for Mark… and JVR can bring in a return with some crafty cap moving…
17 mai 2022 à 20 h 1
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Jets Decline
No interest in the pick or lesser players
Try Konecny + ‘22 5OA for Scheifele
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17 mai 2022 à 20 h 5
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Quoting: Windjammer
The trade for Scheifele as you have it won't work for the Jets. It would need to be Philly's first from this year or from 23 unprotected.

Frost and St. Ivany aren't good enough to allow the first to be a later one a year from now.

Lmao it’s a massive overpay to the point Chuck would probably be attacked before leaving town
17 mai 2022 à 20 h 5
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Quoting: BatVader
Jets Decline
No interest in the pick or lesser players
Try Konecny + ‘22 5OA for Scheifele

You add 22 1st and a prospect
17 mai 2022 à 20 h 6
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
You add 22 1st and a prospect


Not adding a 1st, but would add a prospect.
Scheifele is an offensive 70+ point, 1C, on a great contract for 2 more yrs
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17 mai 2022 à 20 h 7
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Los Angeles won't include either of our two NHL-qualified LDs (Mikey Anderson or Tobias Bjornfot) in any trade for Chychrun, because the object of the exercise is to ADD at LD, not upgrade there.
17 mai 2022 à 20 h 10
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Not adding a 1st, but will add a prospect

TK and 5 OA would mean that prospect better be someone like Perfetti lol
17 mai 2022 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Lmao it’s a massive overpay to the point Chuck would probably be attacked before leaving town


Sounds good. Find your PPG 1C on a great deal elsewhere then. The Jets aren't taking a decent winger, a late first a year from now, a meh bottom 6 player and a meh prospect.

There world need to be somevalue and incentive for Winnipeg.
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17 mai 2022 à 20 h 11
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TK and 5 OA would mean that prospect better be someone like Perfetti lol


Hilarious overrating of 5OA.
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17 mai 2022 à 20 h 13
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
TK and 5 OA would mean that prospect better be someone like Perfetti lol

No.. not likely.
Let’s not let biased fans on the internet define the value of a hugely valuable player… maybe try listening to the insiders who say he’ll return a huge haul, or the GMs who value his style of play and productivity.
Scheifele alone is worth Konecny and the 5OA… technically PHI should add, but due to the rumoured locker room issues, we’ll delete the additional piece from PHI and include Stanley from WPG… but that’s all.
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17 mai 2022 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: Windjammer
Sounds good. Find your PPG 1C on a great deal elsewhere then. The Jets aren't taking a decent winger, a late first a year from now, a meh bottom 6 player and a meh prospect.

There world need to be somevalue and incentive for Winnipeg.


That’s cool, TKs production, like all Flyers, went up after AV got fired. Dude was a cancer to the locker room. After AV got canned he was producing a .778 ppg with massive injuries to his line mates and playing mainly with a 3 and 4 C for those games.
He will be back to being .888 next year with coots. Definitely not worth moving all that for a C whose production rate is .112 higher lol
17 mai 2022 à 20 h 29
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No.. not likely.
Let’s not let biased fans on the internet define the value of a hugely valuable player… maybe try listening to the insiders who say he’ll return a huge haul, or the GMs who value his style of play and productivity.
Scheifele alone is worth Konecny and the 5OA… technically PHI should add, but due to the rumoured locker room issues, we’ll delete the additional piece from PHI and include Stanley from WPG… but that’s all.

Yeah, I listen to insiders, don’t worry, mark will fetch a great return… being a locker room cancer may hurt a bit but he will… TK would also fetch a high return, not undervaluing Mark, just saying that TK showed he is back this year once Av was flushed for being a terrible coach.

I’d say both are probably worth a first, prospect and lesser roster player… Mark has a bit more value than TK, but in a package like this I’d say Mark lands you a 10 OA while TK lands you 15 OA
17 mai 2022 à 20 h 33
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Quoting: Windjammer
Hilarious overrating of 5OA.


Mark was a 7OA, you could literally draft a dude who people say will be on par with Barzal, or one of the extremely well rounded RHD which are nearly impossible to come by nowadays
17 mai 2022 à 21 h 9
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Mark was a 7OA, you could literally draft a dude who people say will be on par with Barzal, or one of the extremely well rounded RHD which are nearly impossible to come by nowadays


It's just too much risk for Winnipeg to take. The Jets have to hope the pick turns out to be a fairly good player, or they lose the trade by a landslide.

They would have traded 2 years of a career 74 point upper end 1C, that has been PPG or better for the past six straight seasons for 3 years of an average 52 point winger with a career high of 61 points. Then factoring in that centers are far more valuable than wingers, especially 1C's. It's just not worth the gamble. You're asking Winnipeg to take all the risk while Philly takes none.
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17 mai 2022 à 21 h 51
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It's just too much risk for Winnipeg to take. The Jets have to hope the pick turns out to be a fairly good player, or they lose the trade by a landslide.

They would have traded 2 years of a career 74 point upper end 1C, that has been PPG or better for the past six straight seasons for 3 years of an average 52 point winger with a career high of 61 points. Then factoring in that centers are far more valuable than wingers, especially 1C's. It's just not worth the gamble. You're asking Winnipeg to take all the risk while Philly takes none.



I can see that, I wouldn’t say Philly takes no risk… they absolutely blow and are strapped to the cap, so losing a top 5 pick will make it hard to rebuild lol. But overall that makes sense, I’m just not sure Philly and the Jets would be a good fit for this deal
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18 mai 2022 à 5 h 51
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Holy heck that’s way way way way way too much for Mark… and JVR can bring in a return with some crafty cap moving…


JVR isnt bringing in any sort of return with that contract. Even with salary retention.
18 mai 2022 à 5 h 52
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Just curious, what is konecnys value? Or is he a guy that everyone sees differently?


Definitely a guy everyone sees differently
18 mai 2022 à 7 h 4
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JVR isnt bringing in any sort of return with that contract. Even with salary retention.


You don’t think a team like, let’s say Florida who will be losing a few pieces this off-season; would want a 25 goal scorer 2-way winger at 1.75 mill? Yeah, a smart GM will be able to get a return for him, and even if not, giving up a first is overkill
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
You don’t think a team like, let’s say Florida who will be losing a few pieces this off-season; would want a 25 goal scorer 2-way winger at 1.75 mill? Yeah, a smart GM will be able to get a return for him, and even if not, giving up a first is overkill


Yes a smart GM perhaps. Fletcher isn't that
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18 mai 2022 à 8 h 10
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Yes a smart GM perhaps. Fletcher isn't that


Touché
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