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Cap hell year 1 Go young and target 2025

Créé par: Easportzz
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 14 mai 2022
Publié: 16 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This rendition has Guerin casting his eye to 2025 and beyond having seen his best shot of the cap hell period go up in smoke in the series with the Blues.
In the process of that, he learned:
1. Fiala isn’t the guy he wants to pay mega bucks to, an do he can’t anyway given the cap penalties.
2. He has three guys who are pretty similar in Hartman, Gudreau, and to some extent Jost. One had a career year playing with 97 and likely has more value outside the building than he does inside, especially considering his contract. Another rose to be a legitamite 3rd line center. And the other is still quite young and given the trade to acquire him, I think they want to see more. They likely don’t want to tie up three roster spots at C though, especially when they need to continue to try to find a legitimate #1 C. They strategically shop Hartman.
3. D-lo doesn’t do much that Duhaime can’t do with higher upside.
What others learned:
1. MAF knows the monumental challenge that BG will have to field a Cup chasing roster. He goes back to Pittsburgh on one year deal.
2. Cam Talbot seeks a trade - feels like they crapped on him, and they sort of did.
3. Fiala vs. Evason goes two ways and Fiala feels like he is being held back in MN - wants big bucks and dreams of being an even bigger star.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3875 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
53 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
3875 000 $
21 450 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
This is for Slavkovsky. Devil fans may feel like they should get more…maybe they could. But they get a steady veteran goalie to go along with a 25 year old who is ascending and was a top 25 points guy in the league this year. Expecting to get that out of a draft pick within even next three years is rare…so maybe this value is right?
NJD
  1. Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Talbot, Cam
2.
MIN
  1. Chayka, Daniil
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Vegas needs help with their cap and they get that and more with Hartsy and his fabulously team friendly contract- in this scenario Wild GM believes Hartman value never higher.
VGK
  1. Hartman, Ryan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
3.
4.
MIN
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Addison, Calen
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $75 512 754 $0 $1 532 500 $6 987 246 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
RFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $
AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
875 000 $875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 2
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 3

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16 mai 2022 à 12 h 34
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Ive seen better for Chychrun so i dont think you get him here.
Your right in that Hartmans value is never higher... but definitely not what you think your getting here.

If I am Jersey, I likely say yes no problem.
If I am Vegas, I wouldnt give you a 1st & 2nd for Hartman unless you were taking a large dollar contract that was unmovable... so just no
If I am NYI, I would say nope
If I am Arizona, I say other offers are better, call me when you have at a minimum a 1st in there and dont ask me for a 3rd.
16 mai 2022 à 12 h 34
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This goalie tandem may rival anderson/tokarski as worst of all time
16 mai 2022 à 12 h 36
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Isles decline
16 mai 2022 à 12 h 36
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Devils say no. Love Fiala, but not for #2
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16 mai 2022 à 12 h 36
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Can't see any of those teams accepting
16 mai 2022 à 12 h 49
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fiala for 2OA would have to include MN's first going back in the other direction I would think. Look at what buffalo got for reinhart as a comp. That is not even close to getting chychrun, and you could probably get a bit more for dumba
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16 mai 2022 à 13 h 47
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
This goalie tandem may rival anderson/tokarski as worst of all time


Its a fair point (albeit a tad heavy handed), they’d probably give up a lot of goals and that is bad. The crackhead GM rationale here is to be grooming Wallstedt and looking at these guys to see if either can be competent #2s. BG would probably take a lot of heat for this - I just think the MAF team friendly $stuff is foolhardy and I get the sense Talbot is really pissed.
16 mai 2022 à 13 h 51
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fiala for 2OA would have to include MN's first going back in the other direction I would think. Look at what buffalo got for reinhart as a comp. That is not even close to getting chychrun, and you could probably get a bit more for dumba


I think there is the precedent angle here to say they should get way more. But I get the sense the devils love the idea of Fiala. Do they let the fortune in the lottery move them out of contention for him? I don’t think Guerin will have a shortage of bidders…so this #2 overall let’s the devils get their guy. You are probably right though.
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16 mai 2022 à 15 h 0
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Isles say F right off. Aside from the fact that the last thing they need is a RHD, matt dumba isnt bringing back aatu raty. Not even close.
16 mai 2022 à 15 h 45
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Cooley > Fiala + Talbot

Try Ottawa, might have better luck with them.
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16 mai 2022 à 16 h 31
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Fiala for Devils first is very unlikely now that it's 2nd overall. It had a chance when it was 5th overall
16 mai 2022 à 17 h 12
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Isles say F right off. Aside from the fact that the last thing they need is a RHD, matt dumba isnt bringing back aatu raty. Not even close.


I can’t imagine the Dumba one is an “F off” proposal. Established top 4 D man for a prospect who dropped plummeted in the draft because of inconsistency and now has one good post- draft season under his belt? I can see not wanting to trade him, but it is a reasonable
Offer.
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Ive seen better for Chychrun so i dont think you get him here.
Your right in that Hartmans value is never higher... but definitely not what you think your getting here.

If I am Jersey, I likely say yes no problem.
If I am Vegas, I wouldnt give you a 1st & 2nd for Hartman unless you were taking a large dollar contract that was unmovable... so just no
If I am NYI, I would say nope
If I am Arizona, I say other offers are better, call me when you have at a minimum a 1st in there and dont ask me for a 3rd.


On the Chychrun one, what do you think his value is? I can’t possibly see this 1st, plus top prospect plus current NHLer, can you?
16 mai 2022 à 21 h 28
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I can’t imagine the Dumba one is an “F off” proposal. Established top 4 D man for a prospect who dropped plummeted in the draft because of inconsistency and now has one good post- draft season under his belt? I can see not wanting to trade him, but it is a reasonable
Offer.


To put it into context for you, he was the consensus 1oa pick up until his D-1 season. Then he played 4th line minutes in a 4th line role in his draft season and he fell. In his D+1 season he played 6 games for karpat and had 1 point and got traded to jukurit where he got top 6 minutes. Unsurprisingly he put up 40 points in 41 games there in liiga. According to topdownhockeys (the same guy that jfresh gets his stats from) nhl equivalemcy model raty had the best season out of anyone in the 2021 draft class. The best, better than beniers better than mctavish better than sillinger, better than everybody
17 mai 2022 à 16 h 24
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On the Chychrun one, what do you think his value is? I can’t possibly see this 1st, plus top prospect plus current NHLer, can you?


No, they likely dont want a current top NHL guy. They likely would want a 1st rounder, top prospect & a decent filler who is young and has potential for top 4 over the next 2-4 years but doesn't have to be a lock. They want picks and kids.
 
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