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Kane Trade Plus Run It Back

Créé par: GMRyan
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 mai 2022
Publié: 15 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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22 000 000 $
21 480 000 $
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TOR
  1. Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  4. Mrázek, Petr
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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15 mai 2022 à 19 h 3
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Kinda wishful thinking that Muzzin is on LTIR for whole season, and the Dman Rubins is gonna be NHL capable
15 mai 2022 à 19 h 8
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What an insane over payment for 1 year of a guy who turns 34 a month into the season
15 mai 2022 à 19 h 15
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Hawks would have to consider this.
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15 mai 2022 à 19 h 26
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Hawks would have to consider this.


Oh you think? Lol
15 mai 2022 à 19 h 26
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What an insane over payment for 1 year of a guy who turns 34 a month into the season


34 year old who is still a point per game player on a lesser team, has 3 Stanley cups to his name, conn Smythe, Hart, at 50% retained...sounds like a good trade to me especially considering they're taking on Mrazek and Kerfoot to offset salary. Only truly valuable piece here is Knies.
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15 mai 2022 à 19 h 36
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Quoting: Chopper02
34 year old who is still a point per game player on a lesser team, has 3 Stanley cups to his name, conn Smythe, Hart, at 50% retained...sounds like a good trade to me especially considering they're taking on Mrazek and Kerfoot to offset salary. Only truly valuable piece here is Knies.


Kerfoot has to be still worth a 2nd he’s far from negative value
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15 mai 2022 à 20 h 32
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Quoting: Chopper02
34 year old who is still a point per game player on a lesser team, has 3 Stanley cups to his name, conn Smythe, Hart, at 50% retained...sounds like a good trade to me especially considering they're taking on Mrazek and Kerfoot to offset salary. Only truly valuable piece here is Knies.


Agreed and Knies,Kerfoot and a 1st is more then enough to get Kane as a Rental
You can add a Clause if he re-sign's like many teams do to get added bonus
But that return is more then Eichel got if Knies reaches his Potential
15 mai 2022 à 21 h 7
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Deal if Kane says yes
16 mai 2022 à 7 h 4
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Agreed and Knies,Kerfoot and a 1st is more then enough to get Kane as a Rental
You can add a Clause if he re-sign's like many teams do to get added bonus
But that return is more then Eichel got if Knies reaches his Potential


The issue is that Chicago is also taking on Mrazek so that is an extra pick. Kane is better than Eichel, yes he's a rental and not locked into term, but in some ways that helps. Keep in mind too that this trade is with 50% retained. So the value is about right.
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16 mai 2022 à 7 h 5
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Kerfoot has to be still worth a 2nd he’s far from negative value


He's not negative value, but taking on Mrazek is a lot of negative value. Kerfoot himself is maybe late 2nd or 3rd.
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16 mai 2022 à 7 h 18
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The issue is that Chicago is also taking on Mrazek so that is an extra pick. Kane is better than Eichel, yes he's a rental and not locked into term, but in some ways that helps. Keep in mind too that this trade is with 50% retained. So the value is about right.


Only if you ignore the returns Free Agents get even of his caliber.
Reality is Mrazek isnt TML problem their RD is and has been since Larry Murphy left for DET to win those cups in like 1994 or something
They ALWAYS make the same mistakes i mean Sean Durzi is someone they drafted and traded
Only Morgan Reilly had a better production rate on TML(funny this is LAK has more RD then they know what to do with and didnt demand Durzi lol)

None of the Goalies they blamed are the troubles
TML always does it to themselves all the way back to Rask for Rycroft or Letting Larry Murphy walk
They beg for it prioritizing of top 3 players Jersey Sales over the teams actual success
They get away with it because as owners there's no one person fans can target unlike Melnyk in OTT for years or Molson in MTL

If they were willing to give up their 1st they would use it to get Durzi back
In Absence of 2/2 top 4 RD he stepped up playing top D minutes and scoring 3 pts in 7 games in the post season
With Doughty/Walker set back next year coupled with Roy and Spence pushing for jobs at camp
Durzi having a breakout year being owed a payday LAK can provide means he'll be traded like JT Miller was in TBL

That said TBL doing so created rooom for Cirelli to emerge and win 2 cups with them
Miller emerged as a top line NHL Star in his own right in VAN
So if i was you id prioritize improving their attrocious D over blaming another Gaolie
Its getting impossible to find people willing to sign there
Everyone that has was a former Back up elsewhere in recent years
Most Establish All Star Goalies dont even consider TML for this reason
16 mai 2022 à 7 h 26
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Only if you ignore the returns Free Agents get even of his caliber.
Reality is Mrazek isnt TML problem their RD is and has been since Larry Murphy left for DET to win those cups in like 1994 or something
They ALWAYS make the same mistakes i mean Sean Durzi is someone they drafted and traded
Only Morgan Reilly had a better production rate on TML(funny this is LAK has more RD then they know what to do with and didnt demand Durzi lol)

None of the Goalies they blamed are the troubles
TML always does it to themselves all the way back to Rask for Rycroft or Letting Larry Murphy walk
They beg for it prioritizing of top 3 players Jersey Sales over the teams actual success
They get away with it because as owners there's no one person fans can target unlike Melnyk in OTT for years or Molson in MTL

If they were willing to give up their 1st they would use it to get Durzi back
In Absence of 2/2 top 4 RD he stepped up playing top D minutes and scoring 3 pts in 7 games in the post season
With Doughty/Walker set back next year coupled with Roy and Spence pushing for jobs at camp
Durzi having a breakout year being owed a payday LAK can provide means he'll be traded like JT Miller was in TBL

That said TBL doing so created rooom for Cirelli to emerge and win 2 cups with them
Miller emerged as a top line NHL Star in his own right in VAN
So if i was you id prioritize improving their attrocious D over blaming another Gaolie
Its getting impossible to find people willing to sign there
Everyone that has was a former Back up elsewhere in recent years
Most Establish All Star Goalies dont even consider TML for this reason


Mrazek isn't their problem with on ice performance. He is a cap problem though. I was looking at some comments on another site and a Bruins fan said something poignant. At this point, it really seems like the team is cursed. When the Red Sox looked cursed, they traded away one of their faces who they built around (Garciaparra) and that seemed to turn them around. I do think someone in that big 3 should be moved.
16 mai 2022 à 7 h 36
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Quoting: Chopper02
Mrazek isn't their problem with on ice performance. He is a cap problem though. I was looking at some comments on another site and a Bruins fan said something poignant. At this point, it really seems like the team is cursed. When the Red Sox looked cursed, they traded away one of their faces who they built around (Garciaparra) and that seemed to turn them around. I do think someone in that big 3 should be moved.


Now that i 100% agree with
I just fail to see how Mrazek is one of those big 3

I did a post earlier trading Matthews to ARZ for Chychrun,Crouse , 3rd OA ,34th OA and a conditional 2nd that becomes a first if Matthews wins 1 playoff round being a smartass lol
They could draft Cooley who is Matthews Lite and clear a ton of cap space
They could then turn around and fix their RD problem by trading away the 34th OA and a 1st with no conditions for Durzi who LAK cant afford to give the payday he just earned(nor do they need to)

Then their biggest issue would be transitioning Nylander to 2nd Center which seems like a pretty favorable problem to have in the world of **** lists lol
16 mai 2022 à 7 h 41
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Now that i 100% agree with
I just fail to see how Mrazek is one of those big 3

I did a post earlier trading Matthews to ARZ for Chychrun,Crouse , 3rd OA ,34th OA and a conditional 2nd that becomes a first if Matthews wins 1 playoff round being a smartass lol
They could draft Cooley who is Matthews Lite and clear a ton of cap space
They could then turn around and fix their RD problem by trading away the 34th OA and a 1st with no conditions for Durzi who LAK cant afford to give the payday he just earned(nor do they need to)


Mrazek isn't one of their big 3. I was referring to Nylander, Marner and Matthews so maybe that's on me for not being clearer.
That is an interesting scenario trading Matthews for those guys mentioned and attempting to acquire Durzi. Still a backlog with LD unless one of Muzzin, Brodie, or Reilly was traded.
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16 mai 2022 à 9 h 7
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Quoting: Chopper02
Mrazek isn't one of their big 3. I was referring to Nylander, Marner and Matthews so maybe that's on me for not being clearer.
That is an interesting scenario trading Matthews for those guys mentioned and attempting to acquire Durzi. Still a backlog with LD unless one of Muzzin, Brodie, or Reilly was traded.


True

Reilly-Durzi would be the Future top Pair
Brodie can be managed as he's good on both LD/RD playing well with most
Muzzin you'll have to move but a team like CHI might be interested
They play him 1 year during their rebuild with potential for him to earn a deal
But if not RS and trade at the TDL

Luckily Brodie/Muzzin just have 2 years left which makes it workable
Holl could be moved but you wont get anything worth justifying it over 2m cap so why bother

Wait until Duzsak is ready to push him out which should be next year half way through if his breakout year happens like Durzi's lol


All that said i dont think Dubas has it in him to do it.
Maybe land Durzi, i could see that
But i doubt he has the nards to pull the trigger on Matthews

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16 mai 2022 à 11 h 12
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Quoting: Billy739
True

Reilly-Durzi would be the Future top Pair
Brodie can be managed as he's good on both LD/RD playing well with most
Muzzin you'll have to move but a team like CHI might be interested
They play him 1 year during their rebuild with potential for him to earn a deal
But if not RS and trade at the TDL

Luckily Brodie/Muzzin just have 2 years left which makes it workable
Holl could be moved but you wont get anything worth justifying it over 2m cap so why bother

Wait until Duzsak is ready to push him out which should be next year half way through if his breakout year happens like Durzi's lol


All that said i dont think Dubas has it in him to do it.
Maybe land Durzi, i could see that
But i doubt he has the nards to pull the trigger on Matthews

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Wondering if LA would trade Marner to LA for a package of Durzi and Turcotte?
 
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