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Realistic Habs Team Step 1 to Contention

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 mai 2022
Publié: 15 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
According to my sources:
Carey is most likely retiring
Drouin wants to play on contender in final year of contract
Petry wants to go to USA
Habs will select Shane Wright 1st Overall, but will be sent back to Juniors
Habs are exploring Gallagher trade
Habs want mentors
Habs want to be in the middle of the pack this year, and contend next year
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 700 000 $
22 200 000 $
33 000 000 $
32 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 200 000 $
2900 000 $
1800 000 $
21 800 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
EDM
  1. Allen, Jake (1 437 500 $ retained)
  2. Tuch, Luke [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
2.
DET
  1. Kapanen, Oliver [Liste de réserve]
  2. Montembeault, Samuel [Droits de RFA]
  3. Petry, Jeff
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Goalie swap which MTL adds a 2nd,
Kapanen + Petry = Hronek
Petry has produced well under MSL, and can mentor Seider and the young LD, you cant have onto young guys, on your defense
3.
MTL
  1. Vanecek, Vitek [Droits de RFA]
WSH
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Struble, Jayden [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Apparently, Washington wants to move on from 1 of their young goalies, and Vanecek most likely is going, Drouin is a good project w/ habs adding a good LD prospect in struble
4.
MTL
  1. Fabbro, Dante
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
5.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
ARI
  1. Clague, Kale [Droits de RFA]
  2. Weber, Shea
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
2023
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Logo de FLA
Logo de MTL
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Logo de NSH
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Logo de DAL
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $72 014 999 $1 132 500 $850 000 $10 485 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
3 700 000 $3 700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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15 mai 2022 à 13 h 58
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Struble is decent and Drouin at half retained isn’t ridiculous contract like his full value one so I think Washington takes it
Fabbro took a big leap this year and I think they just resign forrsberg over acquiring gallagher
15 mai 2022 à 13 h 59
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That's awful for Detroit they pass.
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15 mai 2022 à 14 h 0
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Struble is decent and Drouin at half retained isn’t ridiculous contract like his full value one so I think Washington takes it
Fabbro took a big leap this year and I think they just resign forrsberg over acquiring gallagher


Even if they do resign forsbergm there's still a hole on RW, and I think they'll want to acquire Gallagher
15 mai 2022 à 14 h 0
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That's awful for Detroit they pass.


In what way
15 mai 2022 à 14 h 2
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Can't think of a single reason Nashville would entertain that. Of course we could say that about several of these.
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15 mai 2022 à 14 h 4
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So you want JP (who is on your top line) for a goalie worse then Oilers current goalies, a prospect that regressed this season and a late 3rd. Might want to up that offer.
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15 mai 2022 à 14 h 5
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Even if they do resign forsbergm there's still a hole on RW, and I think they'll want to acquire Gallagher


The interest does not completely go away on Gallagher, I just think the package offered would look decently different from Nashville's side.
15 mai 2022 à 14 h 5
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In what way

Petry is in his mid 30s and Hronek in his mid 20s. Yzerman has already stated multiple times he will acquire guys that fit our core. Not to mention the goalie debacle you proposed.
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15 mai 2022 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
In what way


Well they aren't trading their starting goalie for a fringe one. They aren't taking on Petry for free. They aren't trading Hronek for Petry either. The compensation is not enough to make Detroit want to do that.

Also Nashville would never do that and I don't see Washington doing that either. Edmonton also passes and so does Arizona.
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15 mai 2022 à 14 h 13
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So you want JP (who is on your top line) for a goalie worse then Oilers current goalies, a prospect that regressed this season and a late 3rd. Might want to up that offer.


Ask anyone, and they'll say that Allen >>>> Smith or koskinen no doubt. Heck, Smith might retire, and koskinen will probably leave. Just because Pulijujarvi is on our top line , doesn't make him a top line caliber forward, and tuch was selected in the 2nd round albeit he hasn't turned out as expected, and we're adding a 3rd, it might not be exactly fair, but it's pretty close
15 mai 2022 à 14 h 22
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Ask anyone, and they'll say that Allen >>>> Smith or koskinen no doubt. Heck, Smith might retire, and koskinen will probably leave. Just because Pulijujarvi is on our top line , doesn't make him a top line caliber forward, and tuch was selected in the 2nd round albeit he hasn't turned out as expected, and we're adding a 3rd, it might not be exactly fair, but it's pretty close


It's not even close and Smith is better than Allen
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15 mai 2022 à 14 h 51
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Oilers reject that horrible offer.
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15 mai 2022 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
In what way


Well lets start with the 10 year age gap between Petry and Hronek. Ned struggled this season at times but it was when the whole teamed struggled and he's still better than Montembeault. Kapanen is what a middle 6 center at best he doesn't even crack Montreals 10 best prospects and a 2nd in a draft 2 years from now doesn't make up the gap between Petry and Hronek.
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15 mai 2022 à 14 h 57
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Well lets start with the 10 year age gap between Petry and Hronek. Ned struggled this season at times but it was when the whole teamed struggled and he's still better than Montembeault. Kapanen is what a middle 6 center at best he doesn't even crack Montreals 10 best prospects and a 2nd in a draft 2 years from now doesn't make up the gap between Petry and Hronek.


Haha
If you use that "struggled this year" logic, then petry is MUCH more valuable than hronek, because petry struggled at times this year ( had 21 points in 27 games under msl tho) but it was when the whole team struggled (ducharme era) and during msl time this year, he was still better than Hronek!
So your logic is invalid!
15 mai 2022 à 15 h 8
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Haha
If you use that "struggled this year" logic, then petry is MUCH more valuable than hronek, because petry struggled at times this year ( had 21 points in 27 games under msl tho) but it was when the whole team struggled (ducharme era) and during msl time this year, he was still better than Hronek!
So your logic is invalid!


Ok thanks you just made the argument for me. Why would Montreal trade for worse players?

Just so you know that is an actual logical fallacy it is called the Straw Man Fallacy!
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15 mai 2022 à 15 h 34
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Nothing here is realistic apart from maybe the Washington trade
15 mai 2022 à 19 h 5
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detroit laughs then counters suter and a 2nd for suzuki
15 mai 2022 à 19 h 14
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In what way


In every way...Detroit is rebuilding and you want them to trade a 24 year old d-man in Hronek for a 34 year old on the decline in Petry (because Petry has ties to the Detroit area)? On top of that you want Detroit to give up the 2021 Calder 2nd runner up in goalie Nedeljkovic for a goalie that has yet to be a .900 save guy and is similar age? And Detroit only gets Kapanen (a frankly longshot to be anything other than a 3rd or 4th liner) plus a bottom of the round 2nd....get real

I would counter with Suzuki or laugh and hang up.
15 mai 2022 à 19 h 29
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In what way


In what way, We sure as hell aren't trading Alex Nedeljkovic. And we aren't including Hronek in any deal for an aging Jeff Petry who was basically crap until MSL came in. Detroit by far is giving up the best 2 pieces in the entire deal and pass.
15 mai 2022 à 21 h 31
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In what way, We sure as hell aren't trading Alex Nedeljkovic. And we aren't including Hronek in any deal for an aging Jeff Petry who was basically crap until MSL came in. Detroit by far is giving up the best 2 pieces in the entire deal and pass.


But he'd waive to Detroit, right?
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