Yeah leafs are just gonna buy him out

Andrew Ladd contract cost less to trade and he is both paid more per year and had no hope of actually being good whereas Mrazek is a major rebound candidate.

Easy NO for CAR

Andrew ladd’s total outstanding salary was $5 million over 2 years. Mrazeks is 8.6 million over 2 years.

Bounce back doesn’t matter. Simply no way any team is taking on Mrazek to be their starter after such a brutal year. Small chance he might bounce back does nothing to his value as a cap dump

This gets the leafs $1,033,333 this coming season and, more importantly, an extra $1,433,333 in 2024 when matthews and nylander both have to be re-signed

Ok so he’s a buyout at ~1 mil for 4 years. Typically, 1 mil in retained salary for 1 season is worth a 4th round pick (technically 1.5 mil but let’s go with 1 just to make the math easier). So that’s 4 4th round picks to dump. And I’ll tell you rn SDA and a 1st has a hell of a lot more value than 4 4th round picks

Bertuzzi scores more than Necas and after retention he will make less than Necas a well. It’s a pretty typical all-in move a contender would make

neat, they'll also still have their 1st and 2 more full seasons to worry about that

Actual buyout cost over the 4 years is $5.333333 million. So cost it is still more than Ladd (thought it is still spread out over a longer term) but buyout really limits the receiving teams options. They are stuck with the penalty for longEr, and they can’t trade away the player later for a small return when their contract is almost up.

Buying out doesn’t make sense for a team not up against the cap since it spreads out the cap hit longer and could bleed into the window Detroit intends to be competitive. Buying out only makes sense for cap strapped teams that are more concerned about winning right away than what happens to them 2 or 3 years from now. Maybe there is an argument that Toronto should buy him out instead of dumping but I think Toronto would prefer not to go into next season with more dead weight after finally being free of the Kessel retention

I’m not saying the leafs won’t buy out Mrazek, but I am positive they would much rather dump him if they can. $1 million can be the difference in retaining other players next season and again, they won’t want to go kino the matthews negotiations with dead kk et on the books.

That is definitely not the cost to dump Mrazek...worst case you bury him and save about a third of that salary, which is EXACTLY what the Leafs will do if teams ask for that because that is an absolutely ridiculous asking price for 3.8 million when teams are trying to get to the floor and freaking Arizona had to grab Sateri on waivers from the Leafs because they needed a goalie THAT BAD. Please. I understand some Leafs fans are crazy on trades here, but you people are just as bad lol Leafs will be more than content burying his contract in the minors and having him as a #3 or #4 if needed. Hell, he was injured most the season and played GOD AWFUL and they finished with a franchise record in points. I think they're OK going into camp with him, even if he's destined for the NHL. Leafs aren't coughing that much up for someone to take him lol lol lol

they will 100% buy him out over drastically over paying to move him. And if they do move him it wont cost near this much to do so.

Bad teams can get to the floor by taking on LTIR contract where the salary is insured and cost them almost nothing in real dollars (like Weber) or they can take on players who had heavily front loaded contract and now aren’t owed very much (eg Lucic only owed $1 million after his July 1 bonus is paid).

Mrazek is owed 4.2 million next year and 4.4 million the year after. Bad teams don’t want to pay extra above their cap hit to reach the floor. Good teams don’t want mrazek because he had a terrible year. Toronto would have to pay a lot to dump him.

Honestly, the more I argue about it on this thread the more I agree with @JaredofLondon that the leafs should just buy him out. Just makes it easier and simpler

Yeah the more I think about it, you’re probably right. They’re gunna hate doing it, but it is probably the smartest move

Ladd had multiple years left against cap. And if it’s 5.3333 mil total, that comes out to about 1.333 mil per year (and as I had mentioned before, that’s roughly what a 4th rounder costs to dump). So you’re still looking at around 4 4th round picks in value, and in a world where’s lets say it’s as high as 4 3rd rounders (which we obviously know is unrealistic) that’s still less value than what you have here. I’ll guarantee you right now if Petr Mrazek is dumped it won’t cost as much as what you have here, I will in fact bet my soul on it

Yes a 4th rounder for the next season, but when a team would have to commit to 4 years of buyouts, the cost is more than simply adding 4th rounders together. The cost compounds on its self. It would be crazy expensive to dump mrazek. Especially given the NTC.

I’ll gladly hold you to that guaruntee

Bertuzzi would be useful until the Canes face a Canadien team. Canes keep the player who can actually play in Canada.

Last year the Canes played 9 total games in Canada. So that’s the max he would miss assuming border regulations don’t change before or during next season. Small price to pay for a 30 goal 65 point guy at $3.1 million

Tell me you know nothing about how the Canes operate, without telling me you know nothing about the Canes…

And that is also about 18 points the Canes might not get as a result. Yeah, that price is too high. You can keep him until he gets vaxxed or Canada changes their border restrictions. Whichever comes first.