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Old school Fiala comps

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 10 mai 2022
Publié: 11 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
There are not many comps in cap era that fit directly to Fiala today.

I have been using Buchnevich and Reinhart since they are the most recent trades of pending RFA's coming off good seasons.

But here are a couple of fun ones from back before salary cap. Enjoy!
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MIN
  1. Dach, Colton
  2. Strome, Dylan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
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Comp: Jeremy Roenick (1996)

Package: Zhamnov, Mills, 1997 1st
CHI
    Fiala, Kevin (rights)

    Jeremy Roenick was a 26-year old restricted free agent and three-time 100-pt scorer who had yet to come to contract terms with Chicago. They traded him in summer of 1996 for Alex Zhamnov, Craig Mills and a 1st round draft pick in 1997 (#16). Zhamnov was also an RFA offensive center, but was likely to sign smaller contract since he had battle injuries the last few seasons. Mills was a late round pick enjoying a breakout D+1 season in OHL.
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    MIN
    1. Harley, Thomas
    2. Johnston, Wyatt
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Comp: Alexander Mogilny (1995)

    Package: Peca, Wilson, 1995 1st
    DAL
      Fiala, Kevin (rights)
      2022 5th round pick (MIN)

      In 1995, Buffalo had some financial constraints as they had recently gave Hasek and Lafontaine big deals. Mogilny had just been 22nd overall in scoring but needed a new contract. So Buffalo sent him (with a 5th) to Vancouver for Mike Wilson, Michael Peca and #14 pick in the draft. The two prospects were good ones (top-50, but not top-20). Peca was a slight-framed, right-handed center and former 40th overall pick, who had come alive after his draft with 113-pt season in OHL. Wilson was a defensively sound LHD and recent #20 overall pick, but appeared to be developing more slowly that some had hoped.
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      11 mai 2022 à 12 h 29
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      Yea not happening
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      11 mai 2022 à 12 h 32
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      Lmao hawks decline so dam fast. Fiala isn't worth that but even if he was, a rebuilding team isn't giving up a first that has a pretty good chance at being Bedard.
      11 mai 2022 à 12 h 33
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      Seems like a pretty crazy couple of guys to comp to, no? Mogilny had a 76 goals season under his belt, and as you said, JR had 3 100+ pt seasons prior to being traded. Fiala's best offensive season was this year, which was his first point per game year.

      That being said, my first thought was the Kessel to the Leafs trade, which is f*ckin' madness anyway tears of joy
      11 mai 2022 à 13 h 14
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      like the work you put into this! im very excited to see how this fiala saga ends up.
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      11 mai 2022 à 13 h 24
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      keep dreaming buddy
      11 mai 2022 à 13 h 25
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      Lmao. This has to be a troll post
      11 mai 2022 à 13 h 34
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      Lmao. This has to be a troll post


      It is, he's specifically trolling Wild fans because of the ongoing debate about Fiala and what he should bring back if moved.

      It's starting to feel like he's decided to go the petty route.

      The trades aren't meant to be realistic. They're meant to insite other fanbases because Wild fans don't want to be lowballed or other teams scraps for Fiala because his comps don't work or apply to the situation at hand.
      11 mai 2022 à 13 h 44
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      Quoting: Lenny7
      Seems like a pretty crazy couple of guys to comp to, no? Mogilny had a 76 goals season under his belt, and as you said, JR had 3 100+ pt seasons prior to being traded. Fiala's best offensive season was this year, which was his first point per game year.

      That being said, my first thought was the Kessel to the Leafs trade, which is f*ckin' madness anyway tears of joy


      Molgilny was 22nd in scoring previously. Team had financial strain.
      Roenick was also a contract that couldn't be signed.

      Kessel was a lot younger and had less control in process.

      Was just trying some fun comps for young star players that are unable to re-sign with current clubs.
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      11 mai 2022 à 13 h 51
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      Yea not happening


      Quoting: SociallyHawkward
      Lmao hawks decline so dam fast. Fiala isn't worth that but even if he was, a rebuilding team isn't giving up a first that has a pretty good chance at being Bedard.


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      keep dreaming buddy


      Quoting: SlevinKalevra
      Lmao. This has to be a troll post


      Quoting: RazWild
      It is, he's specifically trolling Wild fans because of the ongoing debate about Fiala and what he should bring back if moved.

      It's starting to feel like he's decided to go the petty route.

      The trades aren't meant to be realistic. They're meant to insite other fanbases because Wild fans don't want to be lowballed or other teams scraps for Fiala because his comps don't work or apply to the situation at hand.


      Relax...it is just some fun historical comparables.
      As I said in intro, until I see better ones, the best comps will remain to be Reinhart and Buchnevich.

      I picked Dallas and Chicago since they have players who fit the packages from the 1990s.
      Wyatt is Peca, Harley is Wilson, Strome is Zhamnov, Dach is Mills.

      (also, telling that Wild fans hate it as much as Chicago & Dallas fans)
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      11 mai 2022 à 13 h 57
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      Quoting: NHLfan10506
      Molgilny was 22nd in scoring previously. Team had financial strain.
      Roenick was also a contract that couldn't be signed.

      Kessel was a lot younger and had less control in process.

      Was just trying some fun comps for young star players that are unable to re-sign with current clubs.


      Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love it and eat this stuff up tears of joy

      When someone justifies their position using some sort of comparable instead of "But he's guddddd!", it's so much easier to have a solid conversation about it.

      Curious as to what you mean by Kessel having less control in the process? He was an RFA as well, and I *feel* like he had arbitration rights? To me, the big snag on a Fiala deal is likely the fact that Minny has cap issues already, though that could be solved by simply moving Dumba (Which also might not be the right direction...).
      11 mai 2022 à 14 h 10
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      Quoting: Lenny7
      Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love it and eat this stuff up tears of joy

      When someone justifies their position using some sort of comparable instead of "But he's guddddd!", it's so much easier to have a solid conversation about it.

      Curious as to what you mean by Kessel having less control in the process? He was an RFA as well, and I *feel* like he had arbitration rights? To me, the big snag on a Fiala deal is likely the fact that Minny has cap issues already, though that could be solved by simply moving Dumba (Which also might not be the right direction...).


      Kessel was coming off his ELC so no arb rights. Fiala could be 1-year from UFA, either by QO or via arbitration.
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      11 mai 2022 à 14 h 13
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      Quoting: Lenny7
      Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love it and eat this stuff up tears of joy

      When someone justifies their position using some sort of comparable instead of "But he's guddddd!", it's so much easier to have a solid conversation about it.

      Curious as to what you mean by Kessel having less control in the process? He was an RFA as well, and I *feel* like he had arbitration rights? To me, the big snag on a Fiala deal is likely the fact that Minny has cap issues already, though that could be solved by simply moving Dumba (Which also might not be the right direction...).


      kessel was an offer sheet.
      11 mai 2022 à 14 h 16
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      Quoting: drambui
      kessel was an offer sheet.


      It was a trade
      11 mai 2022 à 14 h 28
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      Quoting: drambui
      kessel was an offer sheet.


      It was a trade for 2 x 1sts and a 2nd. My recollection is that the only successful recent offer sheets have been Penner and CottonCandy.
      11 mai 2022 à 14 h 30
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      It was a trade for 2 x 1sts and a 2nd. My recollection is that the only successful recent offer sheets have been Penner and CottonCandy.


      Brendan Shanahan / Scott Stevens saga
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      Brendan Shanahan / Scott Stevens saga


      Oh mannnnn! I forgot all about this! Had to google it...https://thewincolumn.ca/2021/08/21/offer-sheets-used-to-be-fun-chronicling-scott-stevens-crazy-offer-sheet-history/

      What a wild and wacky story. I *wish* teams were this crazy nowadays.
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      11 mai 2022 à 14 h 52
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      It was a trade


      my memory was wrong!
      11 mai 2022 à 14 h 53
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      Quoting: Lenny7
      It was a trade for 2 x 1sts and a 2nd. My recollection is that the only successful recent offer sheets have been Penner and CottonCandy.


      you are right! memory was wrong!
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      11 mai 2022 à 15 h 2
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      you are right! memory was wrong!


      If you're looking for fun...read that offersheet insanity from the early 90's with Shanny and Stevens. I forgot all about it and got a great laugh out of it.
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      Quoting: Lenny7
      If you're looking for fun...read that offersheet insanity from the early 90's with Shanny and Stevens. I forgot all about it and got a great laugh out of it.


      yeah i remember reading about it.... offersheet were quite something back then. i also like the ridiculous federov offersheet wih the ridiculous stanleycup winning bonus
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      11 mai 2022 à 15 h 29
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      Quoting: Lenny7
      Oh mannnnn! I forgot all about this! Had to google it...https://thewincolumn.ca/2021/08/21/offer-sheets-used-to-be-fun-chronicling-scott-stevens-crazy-offer-sheet-history/

      What a wild and wacky story. I *wish* teams were this crazy nowadays.


      That was Lou is his heyday. Of the 1989 team, 9-of-the-10 top scorers from that team were gone by end of 1991.

      Muller for Richer
      Verbeek for Turgeon for Lemieux
      Kruvers for Niedermayer
      Shanahan for Stevens
      Crowder for McKay

      Drafted Brodeur, Guerin, Rolston, Zelepukin

      All between 1989-1991

      Once Marty arrived, dealt his two goalies for some grit (Billington for Peluso, Burke for Holik)

      And the rest is history.

      He knew how to build a team.
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      11 mai 2022 à 22 h 52
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      Relax...it is just some fun historical comparables.
      As I said in intro, until I see better ones, the best comps will remain to be Reinhart and Buchnevich.

      I picked Dallas and Chicago since they have players who fit the packages from the 1990s.
      Wyatt is Peca, Harley is Wilson, Strome is Zhamnov, Dach is Mills.

      (also, telling that Wild fans hate it as much as Chicago & Dallas fans)


      I love me some Fiala, but our two most valuable prospects and a first isn’t happening. Johnston just got done massacring the OHL and Harley is coming along nicely as a soon to be top four D. Centers and D > wingers all day long. I’d rather keep our assets and grab a free agent if the asking price is that high
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