that a no from edmonton. They can find value for barrie elsewhere without taking back another cap anchor. Teams like Dallas (when klingberg leaves) and Seattle are needing a puck moving PP qb badly and would be looking at barrie as an option

dont see anyone giving up a 2nd for Savard

Dallas has heiskanen and suter.

Edmonton doesn't need Hoffman they need a goaltender or some good bottom 6 depth.

That's fair, I have seen several Oilers ACGM's with a Barrie for Hoffman swap, hence the reason I went with it.

We can down grade the pick if needed but I don't think a mid 2nd is too unreasonable

I see it as an option if a worst case scenario happens when trying to sign their wingers (like a guy falls through) but in term of need the oilers are needing a 2nd/3rd pair DFD, 2 depth forward, and a goalie coming tothis offseason

No appetite for a Hoffman for Barrie swap. you can hide Hoffman in a sheltered role up front but you cant hide a terrible dman . It would make more sense just to sign wideman for cheap again if they wanted a pp QB.

Buffalo probably wouldn't do that trade and its not the greatest idea to be pushing out one of the few francophone players during a rebuild.

Also the Poehling for Dahlen trade is horrible. Why are we giving up a younger bigger more physical centre for a smaller softer winger? makes 0 sense.

Don't think San Jose would make that trade.

I mean, the guy has only posted a positive GF% Rel in 8 of his past 9 seasons, mostly playing 2nd pairing.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=r&v=p&playerid=8475197

The ignorance is real.

I like Barrie he is a good 2RD (even if he is horrible defensively) when paired with a guy like Romy and our PP needs a major upgrade on Wideman. Barrie had 21 PPP and 20 5v5 points compared to Wideman's 12 PPP and 11 5v5 points.

Buffalo could have interest but probably need to downgrade the pick to a 3rd. I don't think we need to prioritize having Francophone players over being a better team.

Poehling is unneeded if we land Wright, plus I don't think he is in the long term plans. Also we need skilled LW'ers who are on cheap contracts to replace Hoffman, Byron and Drouin going forward.

https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1314977282499522561?lang=en

No you just dont uderstand analytics. His defensvie metrics are HORRENDOUS.

IDK why everyone ignores Barrie's offensive prowess.
He is an elite offensive RHD, it is interesting that now many MTL ACGM's are also dissing him, most Sabre ACGM's do the same.
Pair him with Romanov and IMO it would work well for the Canadians.
As a Sabre fan I would put Tyson on the third line with Samuelsson to give Buffalo an offensive D-man on every paring.
Buffalo would be crazy to not give up even this year's third (73rd OA) for Savard. He would be perfect mate for either Power or Dahlin.
He has playoff experience, his cap would help Buffalo reach the floor.
TBH, looking at how much Hughes was able to extract at the TDL this past year, there may be a GM willing to give up more than second for him.
Only Romanov had more hits/60 and total blocked shots and David had the lowest OZS% of all MTL defensemen who played more than 30 games.

Barrie gets to play with bloody MCDAVID AND DRAISATL there better be a gap there between him and Wideman it would be even more massive red flag if there wasnt. Wideman in that situation could put up those points.

We dont have the luxury of using a guy who we have to shelter if we want to intergrate a couple young players into the lineup. He would just take away options for our young players.

The numbers I mentioned show he outscored his mistakes in 8 of the past 9 years, relative to his team. So who doesn't understand analytics now?

LOL, I countered your point before you even made it.

It showed the TEAM outscored them as they should when hes given a sheltered offensive oriented role. Hes in the top 25 for offensive faceoff % among dmen over the last 3 years

What part of "relative to his team" don't you understand?

Sharks decline

Lol poehling for Dahlen is a joke. One is an ahler the other is already a top 9 if not top 6 winger.

I wondered about Dahlen but you clearly don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Poehling. He has established himself as a bottom 6 defensive center (probably not on the same level as Dahlen still but not an AHL'er either) which is something we already have in Dvorak and Evans.