I’m sorry but 5th overall for Fiala is a dumb trade

For the lines, it would likely be
Sharagovich-Hughes-Mercer
Fiala-Hischier-Bratt

I’m still not even sure I want to trade a top 5 pick for Fiala and we’re adding prospects too? Ugh.

The only way I’d move that pick is if it’s out of the top 7.

Wright, Cooley, Nemec, Slafkovsky, Jiricek, Savoie and Kemell.

You don’t trade one of those guys

How many teams can afford a Fiala contract AND have a 1st they would trade for him? How many of those 1sts are valuable enough to not need a load of assets added in that are still quality and not a quantity of spare parts?

I would say I'm close to this, I go with Wright, Slaf, Jiricek and Nemec for sure. If all of them are gone, I'd be more open to hear out why we should trade it. There is no goalie we could/would get for it, but an elite scorer I would listen about.

We’d love Fiala.
But hard to imagine #5 pick is on the table.

I think the only realistic scenario where we trade #5-7 pick is if we get a 2022 1st back (so trade down, not trading out). (But it that case, we’d be getting lesser player back)

I am assuming Cooley, Nemec and Wright go in top-3. Slafkovsky probably #4. So if Jirieck, Savoie or Kemell remain…I would have no problem dropping down 5-10 spots and grabbing Lambert, Chesley, Lekkerimaki, etc.

If an offer sheet is being considered then I would guess it is

Boeser + 15 for Zacha + 5 is something I like

5th overall is the absolute best case scenario for Fiala. But I think it's dependent on what the demand for him is going to be and if there's any sort of bidding war.

It's well known that Ottawa wants him badly and have been in contact with Guerin since early March. And now there are rumors that NJ wants him, which there were rumors about them wanting him earlier in the year too. If Dorian and Fitz square off, Guerin is in the driver seat. Unsigned RFA or not. Demand increases value, and therefore the cost it would take to get him.

Also consider it will fully depend on where each team will wind up after the lottery on Tuesday. NJ could drop out of the top 5 and Ottawa move up into it. You never know what can or will happen. If the team wants the player badly enough, who knows what they might be willing to give up to acquire him.

Just saying... 🤷‍♂️

Seems reasonable. It will depend on what they’d want in draft.

Same goes for Minnesota. I doubt they are thinking they’d trade him for a specific pick. But maybe for a specific prospect.

Say, it’s draft day. #5 pick is on the board following

1. Wright
2. Cooley
3. Nemec
4. Savoie

Minnesota has three offers in their pocket

1. ANA: #10 pick and a player for Fiala.
2. OTT: #7 pick for Faila
3. NJD: #5 pick for FIala and #25 pick.

If they going into draft saying they want Slafkovsky (and would move Fiala for him). And if they believe Columbus takes him #6…they shouldn’t hesitate to make the deal for #5 be be done with it.

I don’t think the Devils pick is all that likely to be dealt. And even if it were an option for us, it’s probably used to acquire more of a power forward or as Fitzy said the other day, “a heavier skilled forward”.

Also, I think Guerin motivation to move FIala for a pick will be dictated by their draft board as much as anything else. If they like XYZ player and have chance to get him, make a deal. Otherwise, hold off.

Small correction, we're currently slotted with the #27 pick not #25. And we'll have to have been knocked out of the playoffs before the WCF in order to keep it.

Based off multiple reports - its not even close to out of the question. It is more likely than not that the NJD will set the price to start with at that to set the market....

I don’t understand why you don’t just draft Jiricek or Slafkovsky or Savoie and wait 1 year for them

You also hope for a legit 1st line player with a top 5 pick - maybe superstar, however, not too long ago the Rangers selected first overall a player that was supposed to be the next McDavid. To say that the value of a 40+ goal scorer who is 26 is not worth a top 5 pick is uneducated. That is what the team is hoping to get out of the pick but they get a guarantee with this move, no further comment.

Just take Jiricek. Hard to find a 6’3 RD who’s good everywhere on the ice .

I mean, Fiala isn't that light of a player. He weights 204 lbs. He was targeted for hits at several points this year and the player attempting to hit him got the worst of it when Fiala just shrugged them off.

He also had 52 hits on the year, which is low, but ended the year with a .63 H/PG pace. Which is respectable.

He's started to become a more physical player as he's worked on becoming a better defensive player. Those stats have increased every year as he's improved.

I mean thats fair - you still have to see how the game translates, but RHD's are so overvalued *cough* Dumba *cough*, even if he turns out to be a middle pairing guy they can still get a later first for him - sadly.

Because they don't want to wait a year plus for a player when their goal is to make the playoffs next year. Same for Ottawa.

Agreed

Nobody thought Laf was the next McDavid

Maybe they do, but good lord is that so incredibly short sighted. The devils could be set up for a legitimate Makar/Byram situation - as in, having good dmen stepping in with the team after making serious strides, not necessarily the talent levels - with Hughes/Jiricek because they were much, much better than their record but had bad goalies.

Name me a team that wasn't short-sighted after declaring their rebuild was done. Lol