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Is this a good trade

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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 7 mai 2022
Publié: 7 mai 2022
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
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5th OA
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 10
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Lol, maybe if you had caufield.
7 mai 2022 à 17 h 12
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New Jersey would never do that
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 14
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 14
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It is not
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 16
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Anderson is easily worth a mid first... But not 5th overall
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 19
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Worry about trading Price or adding another starting goalie.

Price is done.
7 mai 2022 à 17 h 20
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32pts in 69gp is worth a mid 1st???

Okay, well Andreas Johnsson for a 1st pllzzzzz. Even a late 1st!!
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 26
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Add Canadiens 1st round pick
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 30
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I thought I saw a troll under a bridge on my way home. It must have been you, cause there is not a chance that the Devils consider this without Caufield or Suzuki being involved, since those are the only 2 players that are even worth 5OA for the Habs.
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 30
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For Montreal, yes. Yes it is

For Jersey.... They're sending Springsteen to your place to re-enact Atlantic City in real life.
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 30
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32pts in 69gp is worth a mid 1st???

Okay, well Andreas Johnsson for a 1st pllzzzzz. Even a late 1st!!


Josh Anderson was worth Max Domi who came off a 72 points & 44 points seasons playing at C and a 3rd RD pick. Anderson came off a 1 goal season and got a 7 years 5.5M contract. A LOT of team were after him, he was worth a lot and he brings more than points, that’s why he was able to came out with that contract after a 1 goal season.

Yes, he definitely worth a mid 1st RD pick
He was MTL 2nd best goal scorer last year and was the 3rd best goal scorer this year.
But definitely not worth the 5th OA, only Suzuki and Caufield are worth (more)
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7 mai 2022 à 17 h 39
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I thought I saw a troll under a bridge on my way home. It must have been you, cause there is not a chance that the Devils consider this without Caufield or Suzuki being involved, since those are the only 2 players that are even worth 5OA for the Habs.


That's not fair. I asked a question. I'm not being a jerk.
7 mai 2022 à 17 h 43
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That's not fair. I asked a question. I'm not being a jerk.


I was just joking. But if you think Anderson is really worth 5OA, there is a very big overvaluing going on.
7 mai 2022 à 17 h 44
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Quoting: Poehling
Josh Anderson was worth Max Domi who came off a 72 points & 44 points seasons playing at C and a 3rd RD pick. Anderson came off a 1 goal season and got a 7 years 5.5M contract. A LOT of team were after him, he was worth a lot and he brings more than points, that’s why he was able to came out with that contract after a 1 goal season.

Yes, he definitely worth a mid 1st RD pick
He was MTL 2nd best goal scorer last year and was the 3rd best goal scorer this year.
But definitely not worth the 5th OA, only Suzuki and Caufield are worth (more)


Sorry I disagree. A 28 year old with 5.5m X 6 who is a 40 points scorer isn't worth a first rounder. Though I like the way Anderson plays especially against the Leafs, 5.5m is a lot in the the cap strapped NHL.
He probably doesn't have any upside , so gotta think teams can find better players for 5.5m
I wouldn't try to equate his value of to a few years ago and the Domi trade
7 mai 2022 à 17 h 53
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I was just joking. But if you think Anderson is really worth 5OA, there is a very big overvaluing going on.


I guess it depends where you sit. The last 2 Habs top 5 picks were Kotkaniemi & Galchenyuk... I'd trade both of em for a 2nd!
7 mai 2022 à 18 h 29
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Quoting: Poehling
Josh Anderson was worth Max Domi who came off a 72 points & 44 points seasons playing at C and a 3rd RD pick. Anderson came off a 1 goal season and got a 7 years 5.5M contract. A LOT of team were after him, he was worth a lot and he brings more than points, that’s why he was able to came out with that contract after a 1 goal season.

Yes, he definitely worth a mid 1st RD pick
He was MTL 2nd best goal scorer last year and was the 3rd best goal scorer this year.
But definitely not worth the 5th OA, only Suzuki and Caufield are worth (more)



So, Anderson was traded for Domi....and then Domi was traded for essentially a 3rd round pick....Then because dumb teams make bad signings and Habs signed him to $5.5m per does not make it a good contract and add value. His BEST season was 47pts. He hasn't even been a .5ppg player since.

If you think that is worth a 1st, I'll trade you Andreas Johnsson for a 2nd and I'll be happy. I don't think AJ is worth more than a 3rd, but I'm also not the one taking the side of a player with bad stats, a bad contract, coming off a bad year is worth a mid 1st...

And being the 2nd best scorer on a team doesn't mean anything when having 17 puts you in 2nd place.
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7 mai 2022 à 18 h 30
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Sorry I disagree. A 28 year old with 5.5m X 6 who is a 40 points scorer isn't worth a first rounder. Though I like the way Anderson plays especially against the Leafs, 5.5m is a lot in the the cap strapped NHL.
He probably doesn't have any upside , so gotta think teams can find better players for 5.5m
I wouldn't try to equate his value of to a few years ago and the Domi trade


His time with MTL, he’s been scoring goal which we lack off and big power forward. I think if he would become available, the price tag attached to him would be higher than Toffoli and Lehkonen. After the returns of Toffoli and Lehkonen, I am sure 1st RD pick value would come back. But it’s your opinion and I respect it, and that’s mine
7 mai 2022 à 18 h 41
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So, Anderson was traded for Domi....and then Domi was traded for essentially a 3rd round pick....Then because dumb teams make bad signings and Habs signed him to $5.5m per does not make it a good contract and add value. His BEST season was 47pts. He hasn't even been a .5ppg player since.

If you think that is worth a 1st, I'll trade you Andreas Johnsson for a 2nd and I'll be happy. I don't think AJ is worth more than a 3rd, but I'm also not the one taking the side of a player with bad stats, a bad contract, coming off a bad year is worth a mid 1st...

And being the 2nd best scorer on a team doesn't mean anything when having 17 puts you in 2nd place.


Is Andreas Johnsson 6’3 225 pounds, skate like the wind, have a good shot and hits everything moving ? Player with good ppg are cap dump while other guys like Ben Chiarot who have horrid advance stats are getting traded for 1st RD pick +. So it seems you don’t watch hockey and rely on players value with points, I won’t discuss any further with you. GMs go watch players, they don’t only look at goals & assists
7 mai 2022 à 19 h 51
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Tell me do you really think a guy 28yr old guy with 60 points not in the last season not in the last 2 seasons but total in the last 3 seasons is worth a 1st rd pick period? Throw in his contract and injury history and it isn’t even remotely close.
7 mai 2022 à 20 h 11
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Anderson is not worth 5th OA. Maybe 20th but not 5th. Personally I would offer a 2nd and a B Prospect max.
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7 mai 2022 à 23 h 38
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