Those two players aren't worh a 3rd, together or separate.

Still not paying you for Kassian. Put the 3rd on the other side and it turns into a maybe.

John Gibson has a 10 team no trade list, Pretty much guarantee you Edmonton is one of those 10 teams.

Samorukov is easily worth a third round pick.
That’s why I put him in the pkg. Maybe the return should be a later round pick.

That’s not guaranteed honestly. They have the best players in the world and they are turning into a legit contender so that might sway him. Everyone wants to play for a winner. But yes very easily could get vetoed.

If samorukov was worth a 3rd he would have at least come close to cracking the Oilers top 6 D. He's not anything special at all. Ottawa's Left D side is way too deep for Samorukov to have a real shot.

It sounds like Pat Verbeek will probably move him this coming summer, So we shall see who's possibly on the list and where he may go.

Fair point.

Cant remember the last time a third round pick with one NHL game in his D+5 season yielded a 3rd....

No interest in Gibson. He's highly overrated - he simply hasn't been very good the past 4-5 years.

I mean... I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying, but like... it's 3 season. Not 4-5.

Since January 2019. 3.5 seasons.

Ducks have been bad as a whole haven’t they?? We’d have to dig into deeper stats like odd man rushes, PP against, SA and quality shots against etc.

It's funny, people are so quick to defend Gibson by blaming his team. Elite goalies play well even behind poor teams. Is it just possible that the team is bad because Gibson is bad?

Stolarz and Dostal both posted better GAA and SV% numbers than Gibson this season. Kinda hard to blame the team for his poor numbers when his backup and an AHL rookie did better behind the same team.

Here's a look at the past 4 years for Gibson. There's an interesting pattern here where he comes out of the gate on fire, then drops off to average or below for the remainder of the season. It's disconcerting, to say the least, for any playoff team looking for goaltending as a playoff team wants a goalie who is strong down the stretch and into the playoffs. Here are the numbers:

2018-19
First 12 games: .935
Remaining 46: .911

2019-20
First 12 games: .926
Remaining 39: .897

2020-21
First 12 games: .923
Remaining 23: .894

2021-22
First 12 games: .924
Remaining 44: .898

The last time he was among the top goalies in the league was 2017-18, when he posted a .926 over 60 games. The trouble with giving him full credit for that is the fact that Anaheim's other 2 goalies posted better results: Ryan Miller posted .928 in 28 games and Reto Berra (who?) posted .926 in 5 games - and both goalies had a lower GAA than Gibson.

I honestly don't think you can blame the team for Gibson's dismal play over a significant period of time. Stolarz and Dostal both posted better GAA and SV% numbers than Gibson this season, FWIW.

Based on reputation, Gibson has a lot of value. But based on actual results, he's a cap dump. I'm not in favor of spending multiple high-end assets and dedicating $6.4M in cap space for 5 more years to finding out which is right, reputation or math. There's simply too much risk and too little upside.