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Wild Fans - What is your realistic price for Fiala

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Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2022
Publié: 6 mai 2022
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We all know Fiala is sick but let's hear your realistic trade price for him. Let's face it, Minnesota doesn't have much leverage so don't be crazy. Some more questions (asking from a sens fan):

Would you prefer draft picks/prospects (ex. 7th overall pick) or a cheaper quality veteran (Connor Brown @ 3.5m) plus more pieces?

Is Fiala actually going to be moved or are we just dreaming?

Let me know your thoughts.
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6 mai 2022 à 12 h 9
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Probably look at a pick in the 10-15 range and a top tier prospect either a rhd or c. Otherwise a pick like your perspective 7th and a slightly lower prospect. Mainly futures, no players like Connor brown coming back.

There will certainly be other suitors like la and jersey. If it was La you’d be looking at their 1 and vilardi or turcotte. Which would be a 15-18th pick and a likely 2c upside center.
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 11
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Probably look at a pick in the 10-15 range and a top tier prospect either a rhd or c. Otherwise a pick like your perspective 7th and a slightly lower prospect. Mainly futures, no players like Connor brown coming back.

There will certainly be other suitors like la and jersey. If it was La you’d be looking at their 1 and vilardi or turcotte. Which would be a 15-18th pick and a likely 2c upside center.


Think the 7th overall pick and Jacob Bernard Docker (first round pick RHD prospect) would get it done? It's a hefty price but I think I'd be okay with it as long as it came with an extension for Fiala
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 16
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Think the 7th overall pick and Jacob Bernard Docker (first round pick RHD prospect) would get it done? It's a hefty price but I think I'd be okay with it as long as it came with an extension for Fiala


I am not that familiar with him as a rhd. I’m sure one of the other wild responders will chime in knowing more about him as a prospect. I only know what I looked upc he was a 1st and seems similar to Addison on the size spectrum.
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 20
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I wouldnt be surprised if the Wild try and sell off some other pieces and try and keep Fiala and quite frankly I think alot of Wild fans would rather try and keep him. But if that is not possible then it would have to be like a 1st (preferably 15th and higher) and depending on how high the 1st rounder is would dictate the next piece like a top tier prospect if the pick is on the lower end and 2nd tier prospect if the pick is higher. I would think there would also be a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder or another prospect thrown in there as well. I think it would be all over the board but looking at other trades like the Zucker trade or more recently the Toffoli trade I would think that is somewhat comparable.

One other note...I know offer sheets are pretty rare but I wouldnt mine if some team offer sheeted Fiala everything Russo and others have been saying is his next contract is going to be expensive around 8mil AAV or higher that could be alot of picks coming in, but highly unlikely it happens. We will all have to wait and see what Billy will do.
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6 mai 2022 à 12 h 36
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Quoting: Lightman13
I am not that familiar with him as a rhd. I’m sure one of the other wild responders will chime in knowing more about him as a prospect. I only know what I looked upc he was a 1st and seems similar to Addison on the size spectrum.


Think closer to Jared Spurgeon as a ceiling for JBD if were choosing someone in your pond. Smart player, not overly physical. Good stick and decent defensive hockey sense. Is ready for NHL action if he's slotted on the 3rd pairing. If Ottawa keeps him, they'd like him to be Chabot's partner by years end (next season).
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I wouldnt be surprised if the Wild try and sell off some other pieces and try and keep Fiala and quite frankly I think alot of Wild fans would rather try and keep him. But if that is not possible then it would have to be like a 1st (preferably 15th and higher) and depending on how high the 1st rounder is would dictate the next piece like a top tier prospect if the pick is on the lower end and 2nd tier prospect if the pick is higher. I would think there would also be a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder or another prospect thrown in there as well. I think it would be all over the board but looking at other trades like the Zucker trade or more recently the Toffoli trade I would think that is somewhat comparable.


Yea the zucker trade, but with that extra 2nd rounder type piece. Zucker had the team control but was also injury prone and not nearly as consistent overall. Plus fiala is 4 years younger than either of them were for their trades, so the durability, youth, production and overal star power rhat he’s really ascending to just adds and adds.
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Quoting: FentonsSoilders
I wouldnt be surprised if the Wild try and sell off some other pieces and try and keep Fiala and quite frankly I think alot of Wild fans would rather try and keep him. But if that is not possible then it would have to be like a 1st (preferably 15th and higher) and depending on how high the 1st rounder is would dictate the next piece like a top tier prospect if the pick is on the lower end and 2nd tier prospect if the pick is higher. I would think there would also be a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder or another prospect thrown in there as well. I think it would be all over the board but looking at other trades like the Zucker trade or more recently the Toffoli trade I would think that is somewhat comparable.


If I were Guerin, this, absolutely. Unless someone comes across with an offer you simply cannot refuse. (NJD with Holtz and their 1st...)
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 54
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Either a top-10 22' 1st + a solid prospect, or a mid-to-late 22' 1st + an elite prospect
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6 mai 2022 à 13 h 30
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maybe fiala could get the staal package from pit:

car: staal
pit: 12'- 8th ovr pk, prospect brian dumoulin, and roster player brandon sutter
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Either a top-10 22' 1st + a solid prospect, or a mid-to-late 22' 1st + an elite prospect


Agreed, could have another minor piece in there as well, a cheap roster player or such
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Think the 7th overall pick and Jacob Bernard Docker (first round pick RHD prospect) would get it done? It's a hefty price but I think I'd be okay with it as long as it came with an extension for Fiala


Your out of your mind if you think OTT does this, I wouldn;t move the 1st rounder alone for him,
The contract he is gign to get this summer is going to be an bad deal in 2 years and then your stuck with dead cap when the Sens need to sign younger players.
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Think closer to Jared Spurgeon as a ceiling for JBD if were choosing someone in your pond. Smart player, not overly physical. Good stick and decent defensive hockey sense. Is ready for NHL action if he's slotted on the 3rd pairing. If Ottawa keeps him, they'd like him to be Chabot's partner by years end (next season).


@Lightman13 under no circumstances should you think of Spurgeon as a realistic ceiling for JBD. Play style wise, JBD has a better shot than Spurgeon, is probably a similar caliber skater, but isn't as good defensively. He might be a very poor man's Spurgeon. But he also lacks the ability to truly be a QB on the back end. He's closer to Dumba in that regard, as a trigger guy. But without the physicality.
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Your out of your mind if you think OTT does this, I wouldn;t move the 1st rounder alone for him,
The contract he is gign to get this summer is going to be an bad deal in 2 years and then your stuck with dead cap when the Sens need to sign younger players.


Um, how is that going to be a bad deal in two years? Fiala is 100% worth the money he's going to be paid over the course of his next contract. Because I assure you, there isn't a Wild fan in existence that thinks he'd be overpaid in two years time. Fiala is 25, is just hitting his stride in his prime years, and will only be 27 in that time frame.

This is a player who has been on a 70'ish point pace the last three years while more or less playing on his own without any help on his line during that timespan until Boldy arrived this year. With someone of actual worth on his line he's proven to be a PPG 80+ point player.

In Ottawa he'd be playing next to Stutzle and/or Tkachuk.

There is absolutely zero reason to assume that type of production will just dry up in two years time if he's playing in Ottawa's top six.

Furthermore, there is also no reason to think that any player in this draft sans either Wright or Cooley will ever or could ever hope to hit his type of production. Not one prospect. Not Savoie, not Lambert, not Kemell, nor Slafkovsky.

It's just as likely, if not downright more likely in point of fact, that they could end up being busts or less then their potential.

The Sens, frankly, don't need that type of gamble at this point. They need a legitimate top-six gamebreaking winger, right now, more than anything else and to move forward and out of their rebuild with their moves and to start making the playoffs than to take another player that'll be 2-3 years away from making the team. Especially one that there's zero guarantee will become anything, let alone a star player.

The Wild can afford to take that gamble, and is in an actual necessity of doing that given their deadcap over the next few years.
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6 mai 2022 à 20 h 22
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Lightman13 under no circumstances should you think of Spurgeon as a realistic ceiling for JBD. Play style wise, JBD has a better shot than Spurgeon, is probably a similar caliber skater, but isn't as good defensively. He might be a very poor man's Spurgeon. But he also lacks the ability to truly be a QB on the back end. He's closer to Dumba in that regard, as a trigger guy. But without the physicality.


I was honestly thinking if he’s not as good defensively that’s spurgeon bread and butter with still having good offensive instincts. Spurgeon being a legit no 1 sounds like a 2nd pair ceiling defender.
 
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