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11 mai 2022 à 23 h 44
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
I all of a sudden have a strong dislike for Shane wright.


Wright on TSN today:

“[Being No. 1 overall] is definitely really important to me. I think based on my work and my career, I deserve to be the first overall pick,” said Wright. "I deserve to have that honour. I believe that I am the best player in this draft and that I should be taken first overall.”

How proud and stuck up. Go eat a slice of humble pie


Evil Shane Wright: “I think there are a lot of good players in this draft competing for first overall and I am honoured to be in the conversation to be the first pick
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12 mai 2022 à 5 h 39
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Quoting: Juiceman
Morreale’s list is kinda sketchy ngl

Really? I honestly thought Kimelman’s list kinda sucks. Mintyukov at 7 is not only a reach, but it would be stupid for Ottawa to take a LD. Jiricek isn’t slipping past 6, let alone 9. Snuggerud and Yurov are too high. Morreale’s seems reasonable tbh. LDBB and Bichsel are the only reaches and that’s not that bad in the teens.
Quoting: MitchMarner_16
I all of a sudden have a strong dislike for Shane wright.


Wright on TSN today:

“[Being No. 1 overall] is definitely really important to me. I think based on my work and my career, I deserve to be the first overall pick,” said Wright. "I deserve to have that honour. I believe that I am the best player in this draft and that I should be taken first overall.”

How proud and stuck up. Go eat a slice of humble pie

Feel like most presumptive first picks are these days, I remember having the same thought about Jack Hughes. I guess it’s hard when you’re told for 2+ years you’re the best, beginning when you’re an immature 16yo. It doesn’t help that the reporters almost always set it up with stupid, leading questions hoping to illicit exactly that response.
12 mai 2022 à 7 h 15
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Quoting: Juiceman
Evil Shane Wright: “I think there are a lot of good players in this draft competing for first overall and I am honoured to be in the conversation to be the first pick


Honestly if he said that I’d be fine, but his real quote is wayyyy too cocky.
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12 mai 2022 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: Devil
What does everyone think of this?

New Jersey trades: NJD 2022 1st (2 OA), NJD 2022 3rd (69 OA) (nice)
Columbus trades: CBJ 1st via Chicago (6 OA), CBJ 1st (12 OA)

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According to the chart above, this would be the value of the picks
Pick 2: 12.3
Pick 69: 0.9
Pick 6: 7.6
Pick 12: 5.5

12.3 + 0.9 = 13.2
7.6 + 5.5 = 13.1

Basically identical values and logically this makes sense

Columbus moves up to take Logan Cooley who will be their 1C of the future (Kent Johnson at 2C or 1LW)
NJ moves downs and still ends up with Kemell or Jiricek at 6 (they pick Jiricek for the sake of this scenario).

But wait its not done
Then NJ uses the 12th pick + Pavel Zacha to acquire Kevin Fiala from Minnesota. Fiala resigns long term with the Devils

Devils future top 6 and top 4
Holtz-Hughes-Mercer
Fiala-Hischier-Bratt
Hughes-Hamilton
Smith-Jiricek



I love these charts, I think actual teams use them as well. In football the bills have there own chart that they make and they use that, along with there prospect board to discuss draft trades. Pretty cool actually.
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12 mai 2022 à 12 h 21
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Honestly if he said that I’d be fine, but his real quote is wayyyy too cocky.


One of the reasons Barzal fell to 16 is because he sounded to cocky in his interviews
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12 mai 2022 à 12 h 43
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Honestly if he said that I’d be fine, but his real quote is wayyyy too cocky.


I'm fine with it honestly. More NHLers should be able to express flair and personality.

One of the worst things about the NHL is they try to temper star players from having any sort of ego or expressing any sort of emotion or reaction beyond a clean cut good guy. I'm sick of the only guys in the league having any personality are the useless fourth line plugs whose only claim to fame is injuring someone or getting into a line brawl. Let your good players flourish and keep this dip****s on the sidelines where they belong.
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12 mai 2022 à 12 h 56
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Quoting: mondo
I'm fine with it honestly. More NHLers should be able to express flair and personality.

One of the worst things about the NHL is they try to temper star players from having any sort of ego or expressing any sort of emotion or reaction beyond a clean cut good guy. I'm sick of the only guys in the league having any personality are the useless fourth line plugs whose only claim to fame is injuring someone or getting into a line brawl. Let your good players flourish and keep this dip****s on the sidelines where they belong.


No problem with personality, being confident, just think he needs to be humble. Instead of saying “I’m the best give it to me I deserve it” have a more humble attitude and say “it’s an honour to be considered for first overall”.
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12 mai 2022 à 13 h 3
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
No problem with personality, being confident, just think he needs to be humble. Instead of saying “I’m the best give it to me I deserve it” have a more humble attitude and say “it’s an honour to be considered for first overall”.


I think Wright just wants to live in Montreal rather than New Jersey lmfao
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12 mai 2022 à 13 h 23
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I think Wright just wants to live in Montreal rather than New Jersey lmfao


Newark is sick tho
12 mai 2022 à 13 h 26
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Newark is sick tho


Montreal/ Quebec is pretty ****ing sick tho
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12 mai 2022 à 13 h 32
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I think Wright just wants to live in Montreal rather than New Jersey lmfao


Maybe it was code for “PICKE MEEEEEEEE”
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12 mai 2022 à 13 h 33
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Newark is sick tho


respectfully disagree
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12 mai 2022 à 13 h 40
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Newark is sick tho


Sick in the bad kind of sense. Who wants to live in Newark when you could live literally anywhere else
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12 mai 2022 à 13 h 59
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Anyone else get that feeling Vegas is gonna trade for Weber's contract so they can keep the group together
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12 mai 2022 à 14 h 16
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Newark is sick tho


Nah, Newark isn't sick (not yet)

The cities around Newark like Jersey City and Hoboken are sick
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 16
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Sick in the bad kind of sense. Who wants to live in Newark when you could live literally anywhere else


None of the players actually live in Newark
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12 mai 2022 à 14 h 22
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Jeff Marek just dropped a bombshell of a question

“If you’re the Montreal Canadiens, and I know you’re hosting the draft. If the Arizona Coyotes come to you and say ‘We will give you our No. 3 overall pick and our first-rounder next season in exchange for the 2022 first overall pick,’ what do you say?” asked Jeff Marek.

Man there is potential as if that 2023 1st is not protected Montreal could end up with Cooley and Bedard.

I would only do it, if that 2023 1st was not protected
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12 mai 2022 à 14 h 24
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Nah, Newark isn't sick (not yet)

The cities around Newark like Jersey City and Hoboken are sick


I'm aware lol
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
I all of a sudden have a strong dislike for Shane wright.


Wright on TSN today:

“[Being No. 1 overall] is definitely really important to me. I think based on my work and my career, I deserve to be the first overall pick,” said Wright. "I deserve to have that honour. I believe that I am the best player in this draft and that I should be taken first overall.”

How proud and stuck up. Go eat a slice of humble pie


Canadiens should definitely pass on Wright
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 40
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Quoting: aadoyle
Jeff Marek just dropped a bombshell of a question

“If you’re the Montreal Canadiens, and I know you’re hosting the draft. If the Arizona Coyotes come to you and say ‘We will give you our No. 3 overall pick and our first-rounder next season in exchange for the 2022 first overall pick,’ what do you say?” asked Jeff Marek.

Man there is potential as if that 2023 1st is not protected Montreal could end up with Cooley and Bedard.

I would only do it, if that 2023 1st was not protected


If it wasn't protected, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Arizona is still far from contention and I worry Wright may be less of a talent than people think. Plus, imagine the possibility for Montreal to struggle next year and get Cooley/Nemec, Bedard, and Michkov.
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12 mai 2022 à 14 h 49
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Jeff Marek just dropped a bombshell of a question

“If you’re the Montreal Canadiens, and I know you’re hosting the draft. If the Arizona Coyotes come to you and say ‘We will give you our No. 3 overall pick and our first-rounder next season in exchange for the 2022 first overall pick,’ what do you say?” asked Jeff Marek.

Man there is potential as if that 2023 1st is not protected Montreal could end up with Cooley and Bedard.

I would only do it, if that 2023 1st was not protected


Lmao, i saw that and my mind immediatly went to why tf would AZ do that? AZ's giving up a top 3 2023 pick and 3 OA for 1 OA? Why would the ever do that
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12 mai 2022 à 15 h 18
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Lmao, i saw that and my mind immediatly went to why tf would AZ do that? AZ's giving up a top 3 2023 pick and 3 OA for 1 OA? Why would the ever do that


I think Marek thought of it cause of the Lindros debate

As what if Arizona get the 2023 1OA and Bedard goes **** that I aint signing with you

Or maybe they just really want Wright

Idk it seems Arizona is better off rn drafting Cooley and then praying they dont get Lindros'd in 2023.
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 20
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It’s different in the Maritimes
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12 mai 2022 à 15 h 21
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It’s different in the Maritimes


For those worried hes 20 so hes legal

But yeah drinking out of someone else's cup is not a great idea for health reasons lul
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12 mai 2022 à 15 h 27
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For those worried hes 20 so hes legal

But yeah drinking out of someone else's cup is not a great idea for health reasons lul


I thought it was pretty funny
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