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Créé par: Borocop
Date de création initiale: 3 mai 2022
Publié: 3 mai 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Norris, Joshua88 000 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu53 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Burakovsky, André66 250 000 $
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OTT
  1. Hronek, Filip
DET
  1. Formenton, Alex [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 3e round pick (OTT)
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OTT
    ARI
    1. Zaitsev, Nikita
    2. 2022 2e round pick (OTT)
    3. 2022 2e round pick (TBL)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Bobby Ryan: 1 833 333 $
    • Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $
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    Tkachuk, Brady
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    Norris, Joshua
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    Batherson, Drake
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    Burakovsky, André
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    Stützle, Tim
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    Joseph, Mathieu
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    White, Colin
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    Pinto, Shane
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    Brown, Connor
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    Kelly, Parker
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    Kastelic, Mark
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    Watson, Austin
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    Chabot, Thomas
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    Zub, Artem
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    Forsberg, Anton
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    Sanderson, Jake
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    DG
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    Hronek, Filip
    4 400 000 $
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    Gustavsson, Filip
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    Del Zotto, Michael
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    Hamonic, Travis
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    Holden, Nick
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    Murray, Matt
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    3 mai à 21 h 11
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    Seiders on the Storm
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    Detroit declines. Trading Hronek without getting a Defenseman back makes the team worse.
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    3 mai à 21 h 13
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    Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
    Detroit declines. Trading Hronek without getting a Defenseman back makes the team worse.


    like a defensive prospect or another already made NHL defenseman? cause id move either JBD or thomson for him, not sure what we have for NHL defenseman though
    3 mai à 21 h 18
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    ... We're a "Team"..
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    I don't think Detroit is likely to trade their 2nd best RHD... Ottawa should hold on to Formenton until it's absolutely necessary to move him for something much bigger than Hronek...
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    3 mai à 21 h 27
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    In order to spend close to the cap, Ottawa must sell out 41 home games. That is not happening soon...

    I like Mathieu Joseph, but Dorion will give him a short contract at a lower AAV. Stutzle will fetch a good chunk of money next year so cap flexibility and patience are the best approches right now.

    No need of Burakovsky... They need a reliable two way center and a top pairing defenseman for Chabot.

    Del Zotto and Hamonic contracts will be gone for sure but against who??? That's the problem!!!

    Zaitsev to Arizona ... They will ask the same package than Stralman trade even after his signature bonus of 2M$. Dorion won't pull the trigger on this one...
    3 mai à 21 h 35
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    Quoting: Green4D4
    I don't think Detroit is likely to trade their 2nd best RHD... Ottawa should hold on to Formenton until it's absolutely necessary to move him for something much bigger than Hronek...


    2nd best RHD and I think it's safe to say 2nd best defenseman.
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    3 mai à 21 h 52
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    If you look at players in Detroit's system you'll see wingers aren't a need at all. So trading their 2nd best dman for a winger doesn't make much sense. Especially when that defenseman put up more points than the winger. Plus with the demand for good RHDs far exceeding the supply of good RHDs you're going to pay a premium to get one and that's if you can find a team willing to trade one. If you want a good young RHD you pretty much have to draft one. I'm pretty sure it was an Ottawa fan who said that a while back.
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    3 mai à 21 h 58
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    (Filip Hronek is not particularly good imo)
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    3 mai à 22 h 14
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    Quoting: Green4D4
    I don't think Detroit is likely to trade their 2nd best RHD... Ottawa should hold on to Formenton until it's absolutely necessary to move him for something much bigger than Hronek...


    i mean he may be their 2nd best defenseman but hes not a #2 defenseman or anything, I think hes pretty expendable given hes making 4.4 million. this was honestly pretty steep from the sens imo, I really like formenton, I just think hes playing the most crowded position for us, and i wasnt sure who else would be out there and i wanted to try some trades with him for an RD lol
    3 mai à 22 h 17
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    Quoting: J67
    In order to spend close to the cap, Ottawa must sell out 41 home games. That is not happening soon...

    I like Mathieu Joseph, but Dorion will give him a short contract at a lower AAV. Stutzle will fetch a good chunk of money next year so cap flexibility and patience are the best approches right now.

    No need of Burakovsky... They need a reliable two way center and a top pairing defenseman for Chabot.

    Del Zotto and Hamonic contracts will be gone for sure but against who??? That's the problem!!!

    Zaitsev to Arizona ... They will ask the same package than Stralman trade even after his signature bonus of 2M$. Dorion won't pull the trigger on this one...


    that quote was taken out of context. Dorion said they are ready to spend, but it wont be sustainable unless they start selling out 41 home games. I think norris and stutzle are a dynamic #1&2 centres and you can bank on the upside of pinto at 3c.
    3 mai à 22 h 18
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    Quoting: aedoran
    If you look at players in Detroit's system you'll see wingers aren't a need at all. So trading their 2nd best dman for a winger doesn't make much sense. Especially when that defenseman put up more points than the winger. Plus with the demand for good RHDs far exceeding the supply of good RHDs you're going to pay a premium to get one and that's if you can find a team willing to trade one. If you want a good young RHD you pretty much have to draft one. I'm pretty sure it was an Ottawa fan who said that a while back.


    i mean I like him but hes not anything special, the statistical models ive seen has him overpaid by like 1-2 million. I just think his playstyle would elevate playing next to sanderson.
    3 mai à 22 h 19
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    (Filip Hronek is not particularly good imo)


    I just like the fit there a lot, maybe im too high on sanderson
    4 mai à 0 h 13
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    Filip Hronek easily returns a late 1st round pick at the very least, So Detroit passes.
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    4 mai à 0 h 15
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    (Filip Hronek is not particularly good imo)


    He's as good as anyone on the Leafs, Yeah he sucks defense wise. But then again he's an offensive Dman. And when hasn't the most offensive Dman ever been great at defense.
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    4 mai à 1 h 32
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    Quoting: aedoran
    2nd best RHD and I think it's safe to say 2nd best defenseman.


    So far...
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    4 mai à 1 h 33
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    Quoting: aedoran
    If you look at players in Detroit's system you'll see wingers aren't a need at all. So trading their 2nd best dman for a winger doesn't make much sense. Especially when that defenseman put up more points than the winger. Plus with the demand for good RHDs far exceeding the supply of good RHDs you're going to pay a premium to get one and that's if you can find a team willing to trade one. If you want a good young RHD you pretty much have to draft one. I'm pretty sure it was an Ottawa fan who said that a while back.


    Not enough for Hronek.
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    4 mai à 6 h 5
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    i mean I like him but hes not anything special, the statistical models ive seen has him overpaid by like 1-2 million. I just think his playstyle would elevate playing next to sanderson.


    Well I don't think you have to worry because I don't see Detroit trading him especially for the offer above he is worth more to Detroit it's that simple. You do realize arguing that he isn't that good to get him at a cheaper price is a logical fallacy therefore making the argument in valid.
    4 mai à 10 h 14
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    Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
    He's as good as anyone on the Leafs, Yeah he sucks defense wise. But then again he's an offensive Dman. And when hasn't the most offensive Dman ever been great at defense.


    Filip Hronek is definitely a capable offensive contributor, but to this point in his career I don't think he's ever out offensed his bad defensive results. He's mid.
    4 mai à 13 h 47
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Filip Hronek is definitely a capable offensive contributor, but to this point in his career I don't think he's ever out offensed his bad defensive results. He's mid.


    He is what he is, A very contributing 3/4 RHD who over an 82 game schedule will put 0.5 points per game.
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