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RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Nylander, Alexander	1	875 000 $
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier	1	875 000 $
Bellerive, Jordy	1	800 000 $
Björkqvist, Kasper	1	800 000 $
D'Orio, Alex	1	800 000 $
Almari, Niclas	1	825 000 $
Drozg, Jan	1	825 000 $
Lee, Cameron	1	825 000 $
Reilly, Will	1	825 000 $
Almeida, Justin	1	825 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Malkin, Evgeni	3	5 500 000 $
Rakell, Rickard	4	5 000 000 $
Rust, Bryan	6	6 000 000 $
Letang, Kris	5	7 500 000 $
Fleury, Marc-André	1	3 500 000 $
Boyle, Brian	1	900 000 $

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	78 505 834 $	0 $	132 500 $	3 994 166 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Nylander, Alexander 875 000 $875 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 6	Malkin, Evgeni 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C UFA - 4	Rust, Bryan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 6
O'Connor, Drew 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 2	Zohorna, Radim 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Björkqvist, Kasper 800 000 $800 000 $ AG RFA	Blueger, Teddy 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	McGinn, Brock 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3
Boyle, Brian 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, C UFA	Hållander, Filip 764 167 $764 167 $ (132 500 $$132K) C RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Girard, Samuel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 5	Letang, Kris 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Jarry, Tristan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Marino, John 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Fleury, Marc-André 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 875 000 $875 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Friedman, Mark 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

2 mai 2022 à 18 h 15

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I’m gonna lose my marbles if the penguins trade heinen for anything less than a second liner or second. I know the package is unrealistic but I love heinen

2 mai 2022 à 18 h 21

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Quoting: cartersNo1

I’m gonna lose my marbles if the penguins trade heinen for anything less than a second liner or second. I know the package is unrealistic but I love heinen

I love Heinen as well but RFA’s often don’t get traded for higher picks.

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2 mai 2022 à 18 h 32

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Canucks probably accept permitting other moves

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2 mai 2022 à 18 h 33

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Quoting: BadBadgers

Canucks probably accept permitting other moves

We accept unconditionally

2 mai 2022 à 20 h 47

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The condition on Detroit doesn't offend me at all. In fact I think it quite fair but Detroit is just looking for a stop gap. So if they can find similar player to fit their needs for cheaper they will most likely go with the cheaper option. If you look at Yzerman's history in Detroit Petterson he doesn't fit the mold of someone he'd target. Pettersson has 3 seasons on his contract with a cap hit of over $4M per. That's a lot of term left if he isn't a fit. Plus with how tight against the cap most of the playoff teams are he really isn't that flippable for another 2 seasons. He got a 2nd take Stall for a season now he did fit and it's why he is still in Detroit. He traded a player he didn't need and 2nd for Leddy with one season left. Then he traded Leddy and Witkowski an (AHL player) for Sundqvist who put up 8 points in 18 games as a Wing, Walman an LD which Detroit needs and a 2nd.

2 mai 2022 à 22 h 9

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Quoting: aedoran

The condition on Detroit doesn't offend me at all. In fact I think it quite fair but Detroit is just looking for a stop gap. So if they can find similar player to fit their needs for cheaper they will most likely go with the cheaper option. If you look at Yzerman's history in Detroit Petterson he doesn't fit the mold of someone he'd target. Pettersson has 3 seasons on his contract with a cap hit of over $4M per. That's a lot of term left if he isn't a fit. Plus with how tight against the cap most of the playoff teams are he really isn't that flippable for another 2 seasons. He got a 2nd take Stall for a season now he did fit and it's why he is still in Detroit. He traded a player he didn't need and 2nd for Leddy with one season left. Then he traded Leddy and Witkowski an (AHL player) for Sundqvist who put up 8 points in 18 games as a Wing, Walman an LD which Detroit needs and a 2nd.

I think I’m the one more offended because of the returns a lot of teams have gotten for their defencemen recently. A lot of heavy prices. And for a team like Detroit all my asking price would be for is a 2nd.

2 mai 2022 à 22 h 16

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Quoting: BestGMBenning

I think I’m the one more offended because of the returns a lot of teams have gotten for their defencemen recently. A lot of heavy prices. And for a team like Detroit all my asking price would be for is a 2nd.

Pettersson isn't good enough, his stats are worse than Marc Staal's while playing on a much better team overall. Yzerman isn't looking to fill his lineup with cap dumps

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2 mai 2022 à 22 h 27

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Pettersson isn't good enough, his stats are worse than Marc Staal's while playing on a much better team overall. Yzerman isn't looking to fill his lineup with cap dumps

He’s been apart of a strong defensive team. I think he’s been a lot more reliable than most make him out to be. He’s been playing in the top 4 majority of the season and has helped Pittsburgh to a lot of wins with his play. Maybe it hasn’t been that case for the past two months but they’ve gone down some of the toughest stretches of playing some of the most stacked teams and still got some wins out of it

2 mai 2022 à 22 h 35

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COL declines.
Girard is more valuable to be kept in COL, and if they did trade him, it would have to be for a deal they feel is an overpay, which this is not.

Girard didn’t struggle this year. He was nearly on pace to match career high in points after being demoted to PP2 (Makar took his spot on PP1). He also spent long stretches of this season playing with lesser D partners (like J Johnson) due to injuries

3 mai 2022 à 0 h 7

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I think we would prefer to re-sign Alex Edler for less than Brian Dumoulin's cap hit, and we would probably get the same results without having to expend assets to acquire Dumoulin.

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3 mai 2022 à 0 h 34

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I think we would prefer to re-sign Alex Edler for less than Brian Dumoulin's cap hit, and we would probably get the same results without having to expend assets to acquire Dumoulin.

Dumoulin knows a thing or two about playoff hockey. Edler has barely had a taste of playoff hockey for the past 8 years. Besides Edler is getting old and could very well retire. LA gotta start becoming a buyer. Besides Dumo has a solid resume and in my very honest opinion still solid and still gets the job done. But you can go ahead and run it back with Edler 🤷🏽‍♂️

3 mai 2022 à 0 h 45

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Quoting: McRanteskog

COL declines.
Girard is more valuable to be kept in COL, and if they did trade him, it would have to be for a deal they feel is an overpay, which this is not.

Girard didn’t struggle this year. He was nearly on pace to match career high in points after being demoted to PP2 (Makar took his spot on PP1). He also spent long stretches of this season playing with lesser D partners (like J Johnson) due to injuries

I should’ve added more context so it isn’t misunderstood. I didn’t say Girard struggled. I was saying Kappy struggled. But to add on Kappy would be a good fit with Colorado I think depending on what happens with their UFA wingers and obviously Kadri. They all will be requiring raises and Colorado can’t pay them all. But either way Colorado would be receiving a speedy top 6 winger and a 1st and 2nd which Colorado could use to buy even more assets. And considering Kappy has struggled I don’t think he’ll get paid much and could be completely worth it. But at the same time I don’t blame you for thinking this isn’t enough. But to me I think Colorado could definitely make Girard expendable to even further benefit themselves in case Buro or Nich or Kadri walk. Kapanen would be a smart add on and he’d save Colorado some cap space

3 mai 2022 à 0 h 51

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Quoting: BestGMBenning

I think I’m the one more offended because of the returns a lot of teams have gotten for their defencemen recently. A lot of heavy prices. And for a team like Detroit all my asking price would be for is a 2nd.

Then I'm sorry you're offended but why spend more to take on more risk? Especially with Yzerman's history of minimizing risk.

3 mai 2022 à 0 h 58

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Then I'm sorry you're offended but why spend more to take on more risk? Especially with Yzerman's history of minimizing risk.

And how would it be risky taking a Marcus Pettersson? When he’s been pretty solid for a good majority of the season? Besides I’d make the pick a conditional pick in case if Detroit benefits from adding a guy like Pettersson.

3 mai 2022 à 1 h 59

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And how would it be risky taking a Marcus Pettersson? When he’s been pretty solid for a good majority of the season? Besides I’d make the pick a conditional pick in case if Detroit benefits from adding a guy like Pettersson.

Like I said in my first post Pettersson has 3 seasons on his contract with a cap hit of over $4M per. That's a lot of term left if he isn't a fit. Plus with how tight against the cap most of the playoff teams are he really isn't that flippable for another 2 seasons. Yzerman hasn't signed a UFA or traded for one a player with more than 2 years left on his contract. With 2 exceptions Mantha and Fabbri and both were Wings for 3+ seasons before getting deals longer than 2 years.

[url=Yzerman's]https://www.capfriendly.com/staff/steve-yzerman[/url]

[url=Yzerman's]Yzerman's Trades[/url]

3 mai 2022 à 4 h 16

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Quoting: aedoran

Like I said in my first post Pettersson has 3 seasons on his contract with a cap hit of over $4M per. That's a lot of term left if he isn't a fit. Plus with how tight against the cap most of the playoff teams are he really isn't that flippable for another 2 seasons. Yzerman hasn't signed a UFA or traded for one a player with more than 2 years left on his contract. With 2 exceptions Mantha and Fabbri and both were Wings for 3+ seasons before getting deals longer than 2 years.

[url=Yzerman's]https://www.capfriendly.com/staff/steve-yzerman[/url]

[url=Yzerman's]Yzerman's Trades[/url]

I don’t know how he wouldn’t be flippable. You got Edvinsson that’ll possibly more than likely make the team next season. There’s Walman. Staal may possibly retire or try his luck and play for a cup contender. I don’t know about Dekeyser at all. Obviously he can come back but would a younger defencemen not be more preferable? Also I wasn’t aware a defencemen as serviceable as Pettersson is bad cap. Like what are you gonna do? Overpay Dekeyser?

3 mai 2022 à 6 h 43

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I don’t know how he wouldn’t be flippable. You got Edvinsson that’ll possibly more than likely make the team next season. There’s Walman. Staal may possibly retire or try his luck and play for a cup contender. I don’t know about Dekeyser at all. Obviously he can come back but would a younger defencemen not be more preferable? Also I wasn’t aware a defencemen as serviceable as Pettersson is bad cap. Like what are you gonna do? Overpay Dekeyser?

If it was easy to trade him he wouldn't still be in Pittsburgh. He's been benched had his minutes cut its no secret he doesn't get a long very well with management and if he was so good he wouldn't be in 95% of Pittsburgh ACGMs posted by Pittsburgh fans. MAYBE Yzerman takes a chance for a 3rd but if you look at Yzerman's history 3yrs could be too much risk. I left links so all you had to do was click and look. There are plenty of other options for Detroit because they are only looking for a stop gag for a season or 2. Winnipeg is trying to move Schmidt, Vegas is looking to shed cap and Martinez is a local grew up a Wings fan and there are several UFAs like a defensive minded dman like Zadorov would be an excellent partner for the offensive minded Hronek like Yin and Yang. Detroit has Edvinsson who will probably make the team out of camp but we will probably see Johansson at some point next season. There is also Sebrango, Viro and Walllinder has a scary amount of talent he is still a bit raw but he could end up being better than Edvinsson.

3 mai 2022 à 6 h 55

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If it was easy to trade him he wouldn't still be in Pittsburgh. He's been benched had his minutes cut its no secret he doesn't get a long very well with management and if he was so good he wouldn't be in 95% of Pittsburgh ACGMs posted by Pittsburgh fans. MAYBE Yzerman takes a chance for a 3rd but if you look at Yzerman's history 3yrs could be too much risk. I left links so all you had to do was click and look. There are plenty of other options for Detroit because they are only looking for a stop gag for a season or 2. Winnipeg is trying to move Schmidt, Vegas is looking to shed cap and Martinez is a local grew up a Wings fan and there are several UFAs like a defensive minded dman like Zadorov would be an excellent partner for the offensive minded Hronek like Yin and Yang. Detroit has Edvinsson who will probably make the team out of camp but we will probably see Johansson at some point next season. There is also Sebrango, Viro and Walllinder has a scary amount of talent he is still a bit raw but he could end up being better than Edvinsson.

The only dman averaging less minutes is Ruhwedel and it's only 20 seconds less. Now Matheson is 4th in average TOI and he is averaging 3 minutes more a game. With Marino, Dumoulin and Letang all averaging in the 20s per game.

3 mai 2022 à 7 h 22

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Quoting: BestGMBenning

I love Heinen as well but RFA’s often don’t get traded for higher picks.

You have two mil just resign him

3 mai 2022 à 8 h 40

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I should’ve added more context so it isn’t misunderstood. I didn’t say Girard struggled. I was saying Kappy struggled. But to add on Kappy would be a good fit with Colorado I think depending on what happens with their UFA wingers and obviously Kadri. They all will be requiring raises and Colorado can’t pay them all. But either way Colorado would be receiving a speedy top 6 winger and a 1st and 2nd which Colorado could use to buy even more assets. And considering Kappy has struggled I don’t think he’ll get paid much and could be completely worth it. But at the same time I don’t blame you for thinking this isn’t enough. But to me I think Colorado could definitely make Girard expendable to even further benefit themselves in case Buro or Nich or Kadri walk. Kapanen would be a smart add on and he’d save Colorado some cap space

My friend.
COL has one year left with mackinnons current deal.
Having Girard next year is more important than Kappy and two picks.
Those picks dont help in a cup run next season.

Also, no chance COL is letting Nichushkin walk. hes the second most valuable UFA on the team after Kuemper

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3 mai 2022 à 16 h 57

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Quoting: McRanteskog

My friend.
COL has one year left with mackinnons current deal.
Having Girard next year is more important than Kappy and two picks.
Those picks dont help in a cup run next season.

Also, no chance COL is letting Nichushkin walk. hes the second most valuable UFA on the team after Kuemper

There’s $22M in cap space next season. Just saying.

3 mai 2022 à 17 h 11

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If it was easy to trade him he wouldn't still be in Pittsburgh. He's been benched had his minutes cut its no secret he doesn't get a long very well with management and if he was so good he wouldn't be in 95% of Pittsburgh ACGMs posted by Pittsburgh fans. MAYBE Yzerman takes a chance for a 3rd but if you look at Yzerman's history 3yrs could be too much risk. I left links so all you had to do was click and look. There are plenty of other options for Detroit because they are only looking for a stop gag for a season or 2. Winnipeg is trying to move Schmidt, Vegas is looking to shed cap and Martinez is a local grew up a Wings fan and there are several UFAs like a defensive minded dman like Zadorov would be an excellent partner for the offensive minded Hronek like Yin and Yang. Detroit has Edvinsson who will probably make the team out of camp but we will probably see Johansson at some point next season. There is also Sebrango, Viro and Walllinder has a scary amount of talent he is still a bit raw but he could end up being better than Edvinsson.

I don’t know much about Detroit’s young defencemen but if they are more offensive minded defencemen they aren’t heading in any direction. I have some doubts Schmidt would have Detroit on his list of teams to be traded to. He only wants to play for contenders as far as recent history of him being traded goes. He wanted to play for Vancouver cause they just had a good playoff run. Then they lose and he wants out. He goes to Winnipeg thinking they’ll compete. Once again they lose too and he’ll more than likely want out. I don’t know if he does or not cause I haven’t seen much recently but I wouldn’t be surprised. Martinez would be an option maybe. I sort of doubt it because he’s in Vegas to win. And they still have a chance at something good there going in to next season. I think maybe if there was a chance Pettersson were to be traded he would’ve been already. But not many takers cause there’s almost every other team in the league stacked down the left side.

3 mai 2022 à 18 h 27

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Quoting: BestGMBenning

I don’t know much about Detroit’s young defencemen but if they are more offensive minded defencemen they aren’t heading in any direction. I have some doubts Schmidt would have Detroit on his list of teams to be traded to. He only wants to play for contenders as far as recent history of him being traded goes. He wanted to play for Vancouver cause they just had a good playoff run. Then they lose and he wants out. He goes to Winnipeg thinking they’ll compete. Once again they lose too and he’ll more than likely want out. I don’t know if he does or not cause I haven’t seen much recently but I wouldn’t be surprised. Martinez would be an option maybe. I sort of doubt it because he’s in Vegas to win. And they still have a chance at something good there going in to next season. I think maybe if there was a chance Pettersson were to be traded he would’ve been already. But not many takers cause there’s almost every other team in the league stacked down the left side.

I agree you don't know much about Detroit's young defensemen after making that statement. You are probably right about Schmidt but he and Martinez were just the first 2 to pop in to my head. Detroit is just looking for a stop gap and most likely won't be resigned. No takers for Pettersson could also mean he's damaged goods or not worth his cap hit. But with Yzerman's history it's doubtful he'd even trade for him and I really wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Detroit to give up a 2nd for Petterson. Let's be honest he is the 5th best defenseman on the team and when you look average TOI backs that up. If you really think he is that good and worth a 2nd maybe you should keep him or shop him to another team because from Detroit's POV he isn't worth a 2nd. There nothing in Yzerman's history says this is a deal he'd would make or accept.
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3 mai 2022 à 18 h 33

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I agree you don't know much about Detroit's young defensemen after making that statement. You are probably right about Schmidt but he and Martinez were just the first 2 to pop in to my head. Detroit is just looking for a stop gap and most likely won't be resigned. No takers for Pettersson could also mean he's damaged goods or not worth his cap hit. But with Yzerman's history it's doubtful he'd even trade for him and I really wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Detroit to give up a 2nd for Petterson. Let's be honest he is the 5th best defenseman on the team and when you look average TOI backs that up. If you really think he is that good and worth a 2nd maybe you should keep him or shop him to another team because from Detroit's POV he isn't worth a 2nd. There nothing in Yzerman's history says this is a deal he'd would make or accept.
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Well there’s plenty of possibilities. Just after seeing how well they did through out the season I wouldn’t want to hold anything against Pettersson. Him and Marino complimented each other well throughout the season. I wouldn’t want to see him go for a 3rd. But at this rate I can see him going for a third due to Sully scratching him so often. I honestly think he broke some chemistry when he did that. But to say the least Pettersson has started playing more urgently after that

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