Don't see BOS/WPG as good partners for Scheifele

No from Chicago.

Chicago has a dozen guys in the system that deserve a chance to play.

Unless Boston would be willing to move lysell and a 1st I don’t think jets are interested and I’m not sure Boston should be interested in that. But man would scheifele ever benefit learning from Bergeron.

Jets say no to all of these deals. Can get more value for Stanley and Dillon. Scheifele and hellebuyck deals just aren’t build properly I think. If jets are moving hellebuyck to the oilers they’d be asking for Skinner to start, and build around that. Also they’re probably not taking kassian back.

I doubt that Boston even has the pieces to land Mark Scheifele. because that's not cutting it.

CHI says no.

buff probably says yes

The Jets say no to all the deals. They have no reason to sell low in every deal.

This^ it's Lysell or bust for me.

Definitely pass for the Bruins then

No…I wouldn’t do it

how is the bruins trade "selling low" bruins get a 1c that isnt a transcendent star with 2 years left on his deal.

jets get a 25 year old 20+ goal scorer top 6 forward cost controlled and a 28 year old very solid 2 way top 4 dman also cost controlled through the same period as debrusk. jets are getting 2 significant roster pieces for 1.

if you dont like debrusk or dont like grz thats one thing. but thats pretty decent value. im so beyond tired of every boston deal "starting with a first and lysell" bruins got lindholm on extension without lysell or lohrei. find me any other team willing to trade a top 6 forward and a top 4 dman let alone an additional pick for any non superstar player. i look at a brayden schenn type deal (younger/better contract/similar player). where the blues sent a late first, lehteras 2 year cap dump and another conditional 1st for schenn and had him for 2 years before locking him up. Schenn was 25 when that was made. not 29 like scheif. Scheif plays a more physical style of hockey, how much longer does he truly have in the league? the next 2 years should be fine. we need the next guy for 10 years, not 2.

DeBrusk is alright, but he's overpaid for what he brings and is a bottom 6 player. Also as a left shot winger, doesn't fill a need for the Jets.

Grzelcyk is a tiny bottom pairing LD and is the last thing Winnipeg needs. The Jets have more than enough LD, another one doesn't add any value for the Jets.

So, while you may not like it, that's the way it is. PPG 1C's on a bargain contract are about the rarest thing in hockey. You're not getting one for leftover, throw away parts. Boston really has nothing that they would want to trade that would interest Winnipeg. Lysell is okay, but would only be an add on to a better needed piece.

Schenn also isn't a comparable as he has never been a PPG 1C, let alone a 6 time PPG 1C.

The Jets have no need to move Scheifele, so they don't have to entertain lowball offers.

If trading with Buffalo, try and get either Levi or Portillo. We would need to add but we need a good goalie with upside.

If you want either one of those two goaltenders Brenden Dillon is a throw in on a much bigger trade probably involving someone you don’t want to part with. Levi in particular would cost more I think.

not sure how the hellebuyck deal is selling low?

Easy no from the Oilers.

Here's what we've got:

Holloway - decent value prospect.

Broberg - last thing Winnipeg needs is another LD. Adds no value for the Jets.

Konovalov - low end goalie prospect. Goalie prospects don't carry much value.

Kassian - cap dump. Large negative value.

Late 22 1st - compensation for taking Kassian.

So, when you look at what the pieces being offered are compared to an elite goaltender, it's pretty easy to see there is more quantity than quality being offered to the Jets. In other words, selling low.

That Scheifele trade is pretty bad, no chance I'd make that deal.

Would definitely pass on the Hawks and Sabres trades from a Jets perspective.

I'd probably trade Helle for that but would prefer Skinner especially if we're taking Kassian back.

Not disagreeing that you should expect a larger return, but if I were Buffalo, I wouldn’t expect a haul. Goalies are still voodoo, neither has played a pro game and there is a reason most are taken in the 3rd round and later. To say it should hurt is probably a bit argumentative. From Winnipeg’s perspective I would give a 2nd and c prospect and to expect more would be wishful as I can’t see any team giving up a blue chipper, 1st or comparable asset

Clearly someone hasn't watched DeBrusk this season lol.

I think you are not giving holloway and broberg enough credit. Yes you do have left D however broberg from what i have seen will be a better dman than DIllon, stanley, also can never have enough good dmen.
Kassian i will give you is a dump but not a first round pick dump. he still has a place and role he can play and isnt completely unusable.

and i dont think you have any clue on Konvalov other probably going by this year stats where history will tell you there is always a decline when moving to NA Ice.

I wouldnt do this deal if i was the oilers. wouldnt even consider it giving up tomuch from there stand point making to many holes.

Cool. Overall the Oilers and Jets aren't good trading partners for a major piece. The Oilers don't have enticing enough pieces that play a position of need for the Jets.

CHI has a lot of LD in the system but Why would you give Stanley away on the cheap?

if debrusk is a bottom 6 player and grz is a bottom pair dman scheif is a borderline 2c. get out of here. how many bottom 6 forwards have 4 20 goal years on their resume? grz would be a perfect fit with pionk if it came to it. hes been a fantastic player for the bruins. you are severely undervaluing him based on size. lemme ask you a question how was tyler myers?