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Créé par: jjkhairaELTE99

Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 24 avr. 2022

Publié: 24 avr. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

KETIH NEGATIVE RECAPTURE ADDED ONTO CAP since there is no way to just yeet cap hit. so $3,438,462 added to the salary cap

first the forwards:
- Lazar a solid, cheap, young depth add that can skate and be physical while not being a defensive liability.
- Kuzmenko (as reported) has his sights on going to edmonton so he would cost around 3mil by all accounts and isn't too bad of a gamble at that price.

next the dmen:
- Keith retires giving 8.9mil in space due to recapture rules, allowing for key guys to be resigned and get the oil outta cap hell quickly.
- re-sign kulack, bring up broberg and neemo.
- trade for Chych with (roughly) the asking price of a 1st, A prospect, and young player. plus a 1b goalie in smith as a mini sweetner.
- sign bouchard to a long term deal, similar to the klefbom deal. (proportional to today's cap that'd be about 4.5ish x 7)

next goalies:
- Husso is THE guy to snag. there's some risk cause of his lack of games but he's looked too good and going to command too nice of a price tag to pass him up in FA
- skinner has already shown he is NHL ready so G2 is taken care of internally

Not all of these are entirely realistic but, this is just an example of what can be done if Holland decides to be creative for once. Now you've got key guys signed to term, improved forward depth even further, improved the dcore significantly and got major upgrades in between the pipes while moving out some less than ideal money. This a team that can really contend while leaving a lot of flexibility moving forward to help get the right mix to win a cup.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
McLeod, Ryan	3	1 150 000 $
Puljujärvi, Jesse	8	4 650 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer	3	2 650 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Kane, Evander	3	3 850 000 $
Marody, Cooper	2	800 000 $
Lazar, Curtis	2	950 000 $
Husso, Ville	4	4 200 000 $
Kulak, Brett	3	2 000 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Kuzmenko, Andrei		3	2 800 000 $

Transactions

EDM

Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (ARI)

ARI

Kassian, Zack
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)

EDM

keith retires

ANA

Keith, Duncan

EDM

Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DAL)

DAL

EDM

Chychrun, Jakob

ARI

Bourgault, Xavier
Samorukov, Dmitri
Smith, Mike
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)

Rachats de contrats

James Neal: 1 916 667 $
Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (12.5%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	85 938 462 $	85 001 833 $	896 000 $	2 200 000 $	936 629 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kane, Evander 3 850 000 $3 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Yamamoto, Kailer 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ AD RFA - 2
Kuzmenko, Andrei 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $	Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Puljujärvi, Jesse 4 650 000 $4 650 000 $ AD UFA - 1
	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 7	Hyman, Zach 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Holloway, Dylan 925 000 $925 000 $ (500 000 $$500K) AG, C RFA - 2	McLeod, Ryan 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ C RFA - 1	Lazar, Curtis 950 000 $950 000 $ AD, C UFA - 3
Foegele, Warren 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Ryan, Derek 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Marody, Cooper 800 000 $800 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8	Bouchard, Evan 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 1	Husso, Ville 4 200 000 $4 200 000 $ G UFA - 3
Chychrun, Jakob 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Skinner, Stuart 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Broberg, Philip 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG RFA - 2	Kulak, Brett 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4
Niemeläinen, Markus 762 500 $762 500 $ DG RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Klefbom, Oscar 4 167 000 $4 167 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1

24 avr. 2022 à 18 h 7

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Pulju and Bouchard will not sign 8 years for so cheap. Kane will cost more.

I get it is a dream offseason but it would be impossible to sign 8 years for so cheap

24 avr. 2022 à 18 h 10

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"Kuzmenko (as reported) has his sights on going to edmonton so he would cost around 3mil by all accounts and isn't too bad of a gamble at that price."

Has there been a reliable source who's reported on what his price tag would be? Not sure the Oilers are in a position to hand out a $3,000,000.00 cap hit to a guy who hasn't played a second of hockey in North America. One year maximum value ELC seems more likely.

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24 avr. 2022 à 18 h 45

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I find it difficult to see a scenario where the Yotes don't demand Holloway in a Chychrun trade. I think they'd be looking for one larger upside prospect with the necessary picks, hence where they'd need Holloway

24 avr. 2022 à 19 h 26

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Quoting: Ausbear17

There was an article saying he would need to sign 1 year ELC. Not sure if the 3M number was just people assuming bonuses would be hit.

"Kuzmenko could have signed in the NHL two years ago, but chose to sign a 2 year extension in the KHL. That allows him to sign a 1-year ELC this season that will expire UFA. That means he will be looking to sign somewhere that maximizes his exposure to other markets for when he hits FA. Kuzmenko’s agent is Dan Milstein, and when Alexander Barabanov was in the same situation he chose to sign in Toronto."

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25 avr. 2022 à 14 h 24

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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom

Pulju and Bouchard will not sign 8 years for so cheap. Kane will cost more.

I get it is a dream offseason but it would be impossible to sign 8 years for so cheap

JP could be signed at that number due to not putting the puck in the next enough cause nhl gm's undervalie defensive forwards. Bouch at a klefbom style deal is more than reasonable. Kane is up in the air just depend on his greivance and if he wants to play in edmonton. But hes at the bottom of my list of possible returns

25 avr. 2022 à 14 h 25

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Quoting: Ausbear17

His camp will look at something between panarin and shipachyav deals. I think with some bad money out, a gamble of that low value isnt too bad of a shot to take

25 avr. 2022 à 14 h 27

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Quoting: krakowitz

Bourgeault is an A prospect and having a 1st + young guy is at the reported asking price but, oilers do have some young system guys like tulio, savoie, petrov, lavoie that can sweet the deal but theres no team in the league thats giving up a top20 prospect in the league for chych

25 avr. 2022 à 14 h 29

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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83

Thanks for clarification. Even better for edmonton then, more money to spread around guys that Ideally get resigned. If he does well then ken will do whatever to keep kuz and if he flops its not a big loss

25 avr. 2022 à 14 h 32

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Quoting: krakowitz

Bourgault is the best goal scorer of his draft - why isn't that enough upside?

25 avr. 2022 à 14 h 35

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Quoting: CD282

Bourgault is the best goal scorer of his draft - why isn't that enough upside?

Plus the oilers have a stockpile of b prospects to sweeten the deal like petrov, savoie, tullio, beryozin. Holloway and broberg are going nowhere since they are penned in the roster for next yr

25 avr. 2022 à 14 h 47

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Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

His camp will look at something between panarin and shipachyav deals. I think with some bad money out, a gamble of that low value isnt too bad of a shot to take

It's a lot to gamble on a guy who is 26 and has had just 1 great year in the KHL so far. Panarin was 23 when he signed and coming off a 1.15 P/GP campaign. At the same age, Kuzmenko was 0.67 P/GP - not even in the same stratosphere.

Gusev is a much closer comp - he was 1.15 P/GP as a 25-year-old and 1.32 P/GP as a 26-year-old, at which point he signed as a UFA for $4.5M x 2. It turned out to be a disaster.

Age 22
Gusev: 0.67 P/GP
Kuzmenko: 0.53

23
NG: 0.88
AK: 0.67

24
NG: 1.25
AK: 0.65

25
NG: 1.15
AK: 1.18

Don't get too excited yet. And don't overpay.

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25 avr. 2022 à 14 h 49

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Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

Plus the oilers have a stockpile of b prospects to sweeten the deal like petrov, savoie, tullio, beryozin. Holloway and broberg are going nowhere since they are penned in the roster for next yr

I don't think Petrov and Savoie are B prospects. Each would command a 1st round pick if traded today. I agree Holloway and Broberg aren't going anywhere - Holland already refused to include Broberg in a Chychrun trade, no way he's going to give up a better prospect like Holloway. Even Bourgault is an overpay IMO - look what Mercer has done in the NHL this year. Would you trade him + 1st + Samorukov + Smith for Chychrun?

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25 avr. 2022 à 15 h 5

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Quoting: CD282

Id consider it just cause forward depth is more or less locked up for a few years on the team and they need at least 1 real goo dman and a goalie to get into contender territory. If getting to that level requires spending a 1st and bourgeault im all for it

Could go with next yr:
Nurse bouch
Broberg Chychrun
Kulak( or nice cheap dfd) ceci
Neemo

Which is deep.

25 avr. 2022 à 15 h 23

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Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

Chychrun is vastly overrated. He doesn't single-handedly make this team a contender. Also, not a chance Ceci gets relegated to the 3rd pairing next year - he's playing very well on the 1st pairing right now.

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25 avr. 2022 à 15 h 28

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Quoting: CD282

Comes with having depth on d. Now youve got a really good dman on every d line with youth sprinkled in. I mean look at the avs, they can cycle Erik johnson, jack johnson mason, bowen byram on the 3rd pair. Having a right side of bouch, chych, and ceci helps depth bigtime.

25 avr. 2022 à 19 h 47

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Quoting: CD282

Bourgault is the best goal scorer of his draft - why isn't that enough upside?

Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

Lol the Oilers fans overrating their top guy. He's a good offensive talent, but he's not a play driver and doesn't project to be more than a complement in the top six. A prospect who projects as a complementary forward isn't going to be the main piece in a trade for a legit top pairing defenseman under that much control and signed at a good rate. If this were the other way around, you'd be shooting this down left and right.

26 avr. 2022 à 3 h 32

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Quoting: krakowitz

I mean hes been the best player in the Q this year just got hampered by injury. Hes be good and with a tullio or lavoie or petrov to sweeten this deal above would definitely make it work. Basically get a future strong 2way top6 centre, a young 3rd pair d, a young winger, a goalie, and 2 high picks. Thats alot

26 avr. 2022 à 8 h 58

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Quoting: krakowitz

I'm not seeing a "legit top pairing defenseman" anywhere in this trade. It's a MASSIVE overpay, full stop.

26 avr. 2022 à 9 h 17

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Quoting: krakowitz

Lol the Oilers fans overrating their top guy. He's a good offensive talent, but he's not a play driver and doesn't project to be more than a complement in the top six. A prospect who projects as a complementary forward isn't going to be the main piece in a trade for a legit top pairing defenseman under that much control and signed at a good rate. If this were the other way around, you'd be shooting this down left and right.

This is an interesting take on a guy who has done nothing but score at every level, and who is a solid playmaker as well.

"Bourgault projects as a winger who can drive the offence on a line at the pro level" - https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/prospect-interest-elite-offensive-talent-xavier-bourgault/

"Bourgault’s play-making ability is top-notch and he constantly finds lanes to deliver crisp passes through." - https://smahtscouting.com/2021/03/01/scouting-report-xavier-bourgault/

"Bourgault has also shown with his great play recognition and ability to find open space on the ice for himself or for his teammates that he’s a pretty damn solid playmaker, able to keep possession against oncoming backcheckers and able to be the first guy in the zone to both setup or continue a cycle. Further, he’s a shockingly consistent player - https://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2021/7/12/22572085/draft-profiles-2k21-xavier-bourgault-shawinigan-cataractes-qmjhl-boston-bruins-nhl-hockey

26 avr. 2022 à 15 h 4

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Quoting: CD282

I'm not seeing a "legit top pairing defenseman" anywhere in this trade. It's a MASSIVE overpay, full stop.

I agree its an overpay but I think to overpay with young assets yrs away to get a young cost controlled quality dman is fine. Chych turns oiler dcore depth into the upper tier of league and with one of the best forward depth in the league and a goalie tandem shown above, the team becomes the class of the division

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